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Man makes startling discovery in break-in
Dayton Daily News ^ | 10/28/03 | Nancy Bowman

Posted on 10/28/2003 9:52:35 AM PST by arjay

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To: arjay
See? Crime DOES pay.
81 posted on 10/28/2003 11:34:54 AM PST by abigailsmybaby
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To: The Dude Abides
bump to that
82 posted on 10/28/2003 11:36:49 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Cobra Scott

In addition, he will have to admit that he broke in, and that raises doubt as to whether the pics were found, or were planted...

Yeah, but those photos are bound to have the molester's greasy fingerprints all over them. Also, if they prosecute the burglar, the jury might just give him a pass.

83 posted on 10/28/2003 11:38:33 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans
Yeah, but those photos are bound to have the molester's greasy fingerprints and DNA samples all over them.
84 posted on 10/28/2003 11:41:40 AM PST by null and void (Not to put too fine a point on it...)
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To: You Gotta Be Kidding Me

If they "cut him a sweet deal", then he's working for the State.

No, as long as the state had no prior knowledge that he was going to enter the apartment, he's not the state's agent. Criminals provide evidence against other criminals all the time. They don't have to have known each other.

85 posted on 10/28/2003 11:45:47 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: arjay
Wonder what they will do to the burglar.

Hopefully, nothing worse than probation.

86 posted on 10/28/2003 11:51:35 AM PST by ambrose
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
He didn't even take any evidence. He was an informant who was the basis for the police obtaining a legal search warrant (at least I hope they did).
87 posted on 10/28/2003 11:53:57 AM PST by ambrose
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To: Between the Lines

It would seem revenge is his motive.

How do you know justice isn't his motive? After all, he did expose himself to prosecution by turning over the pictures.

88 posted on 10/28/2003 12:05:30 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: BOOTSTICK
this punk is a hero because he burgled a house and happened to find pictures of his sister nude??????!!!!!

No, he's a hero because he turned himself, risking a jail term, for a greater good when he didn't have to.

89 posted on 10/28/2003 12:09:58 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Capt. Tom
The lawyer for the sex offender will probably argue it was a planned break to get evidence against his client by an interested party. It is the same as a warrantless search under the disguise of a break in. The evidence is not admissable. - Tom

Not true, even if he was after evidence, it's admissable. The bill of rights restricts the state, not the people.

90 posted on 10/28/2003 12:15:54 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans
How do you know justice isn't his motive? After all, he did expose himself to prosecution by turning over the pictures.

"he then became enraged when he saw his 4-year-old sister's picture"

He became enraged when he saw his sister's picture not the other girls pictures. I can only presume he was thumbing through the "numerous" pics enjoying them until he came upon that paticular picture. While I might be wrong (and would be glad to be wrong), I am strictly basing my opinion on what is printed in this article since I have no other sources.

91 posted on 10/28/2003 1:03:51 PM PST by Between the Lines ("What Goes Into the Mind Comes Out in a Life")
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To: Dan Evans; BOOTSTICK
No, he's a hero because he turned himself, risking a jail term, for a greater good when he didn't have to.--Dan Evans

he•ro
—n.,

If he is a hero then he must be a sandwitch. He comes as close to fitting that definition of hero as he does any of the others. Or we could add another definition for hero to the list:

There you go, now he is a hero.

92 posted on 10/28/2003 1:26:07 PM PST by Between the Lines ("What Goes Into the Mind Comes Out in a Life")
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To: Between the Lines
Or we could add another definition for hero to the list: 7.Anyone who preforms a less than selfish act. There you go, now he is a hero.

If I were going to add a definition to the dictionary I would say that a hero is someone who sacrifices himself for a greater good.

There is a lot of legal precedent for letting him off easy. Criminals get charges reduced all the time for testifing against other criminals. And remember, he wasn't caught, he turned himself in.

93 posted on 10/28/2003 2:43:43 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Between the Lines

"he then became enraged when he saw his 4-year-old sister's picture"

He became enraged when he saw his sister's picture not the other girls pictures. I can only presume he was thumbing through the "numerous" pics enjoying them until he came upon that paticular picture

Being enraged does not mean your motive is revenge. People see crimes every day and probably become enraged before they call the police -- which is what this guy did. If he was out for revenge he wouldn't have put himself in legal jeopardy. He could have done any number of terrible things after having access to the man's apartment -- and his refrigerator.

And there is no evidence to make any presumptions about the burglar being a pedophile himself.

94 posted on 10/28/2003 3:18:15 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans
"No, as long as the state had no prior knowledge that he was going to enter the apartment, he's not the state's agent. Criminals provide evidence against other criminals all the time. They don't have to have known each other."

Ah yes, but...........how in God's name would a judge know if the cops had prior knowledge? Should the judge simply take the state's (cop's) word for it? Cutting the burglar a "sweet deal" is evidence enough that "something stinks in Omaha". In any event, if a judge simply allows the evidence without asking the cops and prosecuters some really tough questions, it won't be long before cops recruit an army of "burglars with scruples" to circumvent that whole "search warrant fourth ammendment thingy". The best way for the judge to make sure that there is no monkey bussiness going on is to require that the burglar be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, or dismiss all evidence collected because of the burglary. Heh, the burglar broke the law, too. Breaking and entering is a FELONY.

Be honest. How would you like the cops to send an army of burglars (who have been given immunity from prosecution) to break into your house, because the cops have a hunch that you may own a gun, have politically incorrect literature, etc.? How would you like the cops to send a "burglar" to break into your home, plant drugs, "find" those drugs, report the "findings" to the cops, have you arrested, seize your home under confiscation laws for drug trafficing, then you get to watch their hero (the "burglar") collect his cash reward and walk free to break into another home, while you lose everything including your freedom? In the meantime, the cops get to keep your property. All this, because a so-called burglar "found religion while breaking into your house and simply had to tell the cops about you." Yeah, right. Sure he did. That may sound cynical, but that exact crap has been going on for years. Read "LOST RIGHTS" (I forget the author's name).

"Law and Order" Republicans had better be careful what they wish for. One day the "criminal" getting his ass kicked may be that same law abiding, but naive Republican.

A few final thoughts: it is believed that Anne Frank's family was turned in to the Gestapo by a burglar who got caught and was out to save his own ass. Kinda gives me the creeps about burglars talking to cops about the interesting things they've encountered while violating the rights of others. Yes, the kiddie porn creep should be prosecuted, but so should the burglar. Anything less is an injustice.

95 posted on 10/29/2003 12:11:05 PM PST by You Gotta Be Kidding Me
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To: BOOTSTICK
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner.....

I never stated that he was a hero or anything resembling that...But felt that it did show a glimmer of character to step up and turn himself in to protect his sister and other prospective victims. That was a selfless act....

That by itself does not mitigate what he did nor absolve him from punishment....However a creative Judge could use this opportunity to intervene in this kid's life and perhaps help him turn it around.

NeverGore
96 posted on 10/29/2003 7:41:15 PM PST by nevergore (Please return your seat trays and seat backs to their full and upright position....)
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