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The Consequences of Casual Conversations
The Daily Standard ^ | 10/27/03 | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on 10/28/2003 2:20:14 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck

ONE EVENING, during the second term of President Ronald Reagan, Terri Schiavo and her husband Michael decided to watch a television movie about Karen Ann Quinlan. Quinlan, as most readers know, had a tragic life. After overdosing on a combination of drugs and alcohol, she fell into unconsciousness and never awakened. Her parents won a lawsuit in the New Jersey Supreme Court allowing them to disconnect her ventilator. Karen didn't die immediately--she lived on for 10 more years before finally expiring from pneumonia.

While discussing the movie, Michael claims that Terri stated she would not want to live hooked up to a "machine" (she's not), or be a "burden" (her parents don't consider her a burden and want to care for her). Michael's brother, Scott, backs up his claim, while his sister-in-law, Joan, told the court that Terri had approved of pulling the life support from the dying baby of a mutual friend and said that if she ever wrote a "will" she would say that she didn't want "tubes."

Little did Terri know that these purported statements, uttered under very casual circumstances, would become the justification used by her husband in his six-year drive to remove her feeding tube and end her life. Indeed, based on these casual statements, Judge George Greer of the Sixth Judicial Circuit in Clearwater, Florida ruled that Michael had established "by clear and convincing evidence"--the highest evidentiary standard in civil law--that Terri would rather dehydrate to death over a period of 10-14 days than live on food and water supplied by a feeding tube.

THIS ASPECT of Terri's case deserves far more attention that it is receiving. Most of us have undoubtedly made similar casual statements in response to the death of a relative or the emotions generated by a movie. But shouldn't much more be required to justify the intentional ending of a human life? At the very least, shouldn't we demand a well thought out, informed, and preferably written statement that not only indicates what is desired, but also shows that reasonable alternatives have been fully considered?

For example, if Terri did say she didn't want tubes, did she know that it would include a feeding tube and that it could mean a dying process that involved seizures, heaving, nose bleeding, cracked lips, parched tongue, and the extremities becoming cold and mottled? If she did, would that have made a difference to her? And would her opinion have changed if she knew that the statements made to her husband and in-laws would be stretched by Judge Greer to refuse her parents' reasonable request that before being dehydrated, she be allowed access to rehabilitation that many medical experts believe might permit her to be weaned from the feeding tube altogether?

And what does the statement, "I don't want tubes," mean anyway? Perhaps Terri was thinking about the stark atmosphere of a neonatal intensive care unit in which babies may be kept alive by battalions of beeping and buzzing medical machines. But she isn't in that condition. Or, if she was thinking of Karen Quinlan's circumstance, she might have conceived of herself spending years on a respirator, which was the treatment at issue in her case. But Terri isn't on a respirator. The only life support she needs is food and water.

MANY DEHYDRATION CASES have involved such casual statements. The most disturbing of these was that of Marjorie Nighbert, which, ironically, also occurred in Florida. Marjorie was a successful Ohio businesswoman who was visiting her family in Alabama when she was felled by a stroke that left her disabled but not terminally ill. After being stabilized, she was moved to a nursing home in Florida where, it was hoped, she could be rehabilitated to relearn how to chew and swallow without danger of aspiration. To ensure she was nourished, she was provided a feeding tube.

This presented an excruciating quandary for her brother Maynard, who had a general power of attorney from Marjorie (not power of attorney for health care), as a consequence of which he became her surrogate medical decision-maker. Marjorie had once told her brother that she didn't want a feeding tube if she were terminally ill. Despite the fact that she was not dying, however, Maynard believed that if she were unable to be weaned off the tube, she would have wanted to die rather than live using the tube for nourishment. When she did not improve, he ordered the tube removed.

As she was slowly dehydrating to death, Marjorie began to ask the staff for food and water. In response to her pleas, members of the nursing staff surreptitiously gave her small amounts. One distraught staffer eventually blew the whistle, leading to a state investigation and a temporary restraining order requiring that Marjorie be nourished

Circuit Court Judge Jere Tolton received the case and appointed attorney William F. Stone to represent Nighbert and to conduct a 24-hour inquiry, the sole issue being whether Marjorie was competent to rescind her power of attorney and make her own decisions. After the rushed investigation, Stone was forced to report to the judge that she was not competent at that time. She had, after all been intentionally malnourished for several weeks. Stone particularly noted that he had been unable to determine whether she was competent when the dehydration commenced.

With Stone's report in hand, the judge ruled that the dehydration should be completed, apparently on the theory that Marjorie did not have the competence to request the medical treatment of food and water. Before an appalled Stone could appeal, Nighbert died on April 6, 1995.

Society's approach to the so-called "right to die" has become far too casual. None of us should be made to die because of statements made in casual conversations or due to misconstrued oral directives. The time has come for the best legal minds in the country to draft model legislation that will tighten existing laws so as to give every reasonable legal benefit of the doubt to life rather than, as too often happens now, to slow death by dehydration.

Author Wesley J. Smith is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute and an attorney and consultant for the International Task Force on Euthanasia and Assisted Suicide. He is the author of "Forced Exit: The Slippery Slope from Assisted Suicide to Legalized Murder."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: dehydration; euthenasia; righttodie; terri; terrischiavo
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Our world is upside down.

We are now assuming a person would want to die after becoming disabled. It's no longer about "right to die," it's about killing the weakest and most helpless among us.

The right to die is canceling out the right to live.

21 posted on 10/28/2003 12:01:13 PM PST by Gelato
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To: HiTech RedNeck
In other news that you and I have mutual interest in SCO is at it again pushing the idea that the GNU GPL is not a valid license.
And by the way have you ever looked at Darl McBride's EYES. They look exactly like Michael Schiavo's on Larry King last night. This convinces me more than ever that we are dealing with the SAME DEVIL in both cases.
22 posted on 10/28/2003 2:42:28 PM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; sweetliberty; EternalVigilance
Amen and amen!!
23 posted on 10/28/2003 3:05:30 PM PST by viaveritasvita ("When Love takes you in, everything changes.")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Consider this my living will:

"No matter what medical circumstances may arise, no matter how dire, my desire and intent is to fight death by any and every means possible; with the help of any and every human being who is willing to give me such assistance."

signed,
TH
24 posted on 10/28/2003 3:12:06 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: agrace
Hey, she was from out of state, so the voters generously give this hang-em-out-to-dry judge a pass?

This is Nazi Jackboot Law and Meek Following Sheeple at their most classic. The hot side of eternity itself does not seem to contain enough damn's for this.
25 posted on 10/28/2003 3:33:37 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: StarFan
Thank God that you HAVE seen another birthday. That some social engineer has not offed you long before this time. And beg and plead with the Lord God for power to help crush this evil.
26 posted on 10/28/2003 3:37:10 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: HiTech RedNeck
This is the stage of pretext/pretense ... the forces pause to convince America that even a casual mention is sufficient to base the putting down of an inconvenient dependent. Soon, sooner than we could imagine, the pretext/pretense will be dropped and licensed physicians will be authorized to decide without court oversight. It is what Felos (and apparently Greer) seek to establish in this nation. It is the fundamental goal of the modern euthanasia movement. It is already institutionalized with abortion on demand.
27 posted on 10/28/2003 4:01:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What a horrible story! But thanks for posting this.

I hope that many people - even liberals who are fundamentally pro-death - will ask themselves some long hard questions after reading things like this. Obviously, Alan Dershowitz has started to do so...
28 posted on 10/28/2003 4:01:55 PM PST by livius
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To: drlevy88
Florida didn't belong to Mexico originally it was Spain, but you can certainly hand it over Mexico NOW. LOL What a wacky state! (& me from the Land of Kavorkian ;))
29 posted on 10/28/2003 4:06:53 PM PST by madison10
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To: EternalVigilance
Consider this my living will:

"No matter what medical circumstances may arise, no matter how dire, my desire and intent is to fight death by any and every means possible; with the help of any and every human being who is willing to give me such assistance."

signed,
TH



EV,
My husband and I were discussing this living will situation and came to the conclusion that we would not write one. But you have a point here. If the slippery slope gets any slippier or steep we may need it in writing that we do cherish life totally till our dear Lord takes us home.

30 posted on 10/28/2003 4:08:47 PM PST by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:)
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To: All
Polls to freep on this case..

CourtTV needs major freeping
http://www.courttv.com/ctvapp/thirteenth3.cfm

CNN Poll
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/late.edition/


31 posted on 10/28/2003 4:10:07 PM PST by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:)
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To: MHGinTN
Yeah, those poor poor old folks, let's be compassionate and just herd 'em on to the last roundup, yippie yi yay, they will be dried out skulls in the desert. CHILLING.
32 posted on 10/28/2003 4:17:52 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: 4Godsoloved..Hegave
Consider you may both be incapacitated in a common accident. Then who calls the shots?
33 posted on 10/28/2003 4:18:56 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: All
FREEP THIS POLL! COURT TV, TERRI VS. THE GHOULS
34 posted on 10/28/2003 5:04:07 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: HiTech RedNeck
With Stone's report in hand, the judge ruled that the dehydration should be completed, apparently on the theory that Marjorie did not have the competence to request the medical treatment of food and water. Before an appalled Stone could appeal, Nighbert died on April 6, 1995.

So a famished, parched woman is not competent enough to ask for food and water?

What has happened to us?

35 posted on 10/28/2003 6:53:15 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell
"Just following the legislature's orders, sir!"
36 posted on 10/28/2003 6:59:06 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
While discussing the movie, Michael claims that Terri stated she would not want to live hooked up to a "machine" (she's not), or be a "burden" (her parents don't consider her a burden and want to care for her). Michael's brother, Scott, backs up his claim, while his sister-in-law, Joan, told the court that Terri had approved of pulling the life support from the dying baby of a mutual friend and said that if she ever wrote a "will" she would say that she didn't want "tubes."

I'm confused (normal). One statement I read said that it was after Terri's grandmother's funeral (her grandmother had been on life support) on the way home where she made the statement she didn't ever want to be hooked up on a ventilator. Which story is true?

37 posted on 10/28/2003 10:38:45 PM PST by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: StarFan

Happy birthday

I got you a cake but I didn't know how many candles to put on it! :oD


38 posted on 10/29/2003 7:52:37 PM PST by TaxRelief (Ask me about the connection between Socialism, Communism, Drug Warlords and Vodka.)
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To: TaxRelief
I'm still young enough to blush and so touched by your thoughtfulness.
39 posted on 10/29/2003 10:33:34 PM PST by StarFan (Life is in session, are you present?)
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