Husband (Michael Schiavo) in Right-To-Die Case Rips Parents

Yahoo! News ^ | October 27, 2003 | VICKIE CHACHERE

[Ms PACman]

According to reports I've heard, this isn't some poor, lonely guy who, after so many years without companionship, finally met a special friend and fell in love.

He has had LOTS of girlfriends almost from the very first (after her collapse) and I've also heard rumors that he might have had a little zipper problem long before Terri collapsed.

[Ms PACman]

Girlfriend, that prick has had more than TWO women in his life!!! If the entire truth would come out, Clinton & Kennedy would probably look like monks in comparison!!!

[fishbabe]

every liberal in america loved his performance!!!!!

[stefeb]

"My girlfriend right now has done more for Terri than her own mother did. She shopped for her. She washed her clothes."

Am I crazy, or is there something wrong with having a girlfriend AND a wife?

[STARWISE]

And the nerve he had when asked if he was religious and answered, "Yes????????????" He just doesn't even know how many people were on the line about this issue and crossed it to Terri's parent's side because of HIM. Instead of being publicity hungry, and prompted by an arrogant, agenda-driven attorney, he'd have better served himself (which is all who's he's been serving) by continuing his avoidance of the spotlight. Now .... the truth has become ever clearer. GOD BLESS TERRI AND HER FAMILY!

[Deep_6]

Amazing!

With all that was posted, some people do not read a
thing more than they care to know. They seem to
prefer to wallow in the pits of the half-truths, to perhaps
rid themselves of some hidden guilt they might have.

Terri can not swallow in a voluntary manner. She 
makes swallowing motions involuntarily, just as
her body functions are all involuntary. Her cerebral
cortex is gone and the cavity filled with spinal fluid.

The judge ordered five doctors to give findings. Two
were paid by Terri's "family", two by Terri's husband
and one court ordered neutral. The findings were
conclusive, Terri is in a vegetated state and can not
improve. When there is no cortex, there can be no
improvement. The cerebral cortex can not replenish
itself nor be replaced.

Feeding Terri food/water can cause her to choke to death
unless accomplished via the support system.

In the State of Florida, without a living will to guide
the court, the decision to remove a life support system
is at the discretion of the spouse.

The "feeding tube" in the State of Florida is indeed
considered a "life support system" if life cannot be
supported without it. It has been proven that Terri
cannot swallow voluntarily and will not "learn" to
do that, due to her missing cortex.

There has been no "test" by Terri's "family" that
could ever be reproduced for the courts. The court
had been offered a taped incident, but that incident
has not and can not apparently be repeated for the
court or court appointed Physician.

Comments from posters telling of a swallowing
incident are simply restating the tales of Terri's
"family". There has not been one physician to
give testimony to that "fact", nor give testimony
that it is at all possible for a person missing their
cerebral cortex to be able to swallow in a voluntary
manner.

Removing any "life support system" results in the
life it is supporting; to die naturally. That "natural"
manner of dying can be of the loss of breath, the
loss of heart function, the loss of the ability to
breath, the loss of the process of nourishment,
etc, etc. There is no "natural" way to die, other
than to die. Every method of life support. once
removed, will cause the participant to die.

If Terri was on a respirator,  the cries would be
over her loss of ability to breath without if
it were to be removed. If Terri was on a Cardiac
machine, the cries would be for her "untimely
demise" if removed from it, causing her heart to stop
beating.

There is no "easy way to die", "naturally" or
"un-naturally". It is not a pleasant scene to see,
but it happens daily and will happen to you and
I, eventually.

Terri has been in a vegetated state for over 13 years.

Her soul is now being forced to remain inside
that shell of a body longer.

It's purgatory; government ordered purgatory.

 

[cyn]

IMP -- pls see today's article
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1009520/posts "the consequences of casual conversation" from 10/27, Daily Standard

and compare it to

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1007702/posts "Family, friends reflect on Terri Schiavo" from 10/24, AP

Same Anna Quinlan movie -- DIFFERENT alleged reactions from Terri! She was tender hearted, wanted to work w/animals -- which is more likely response?

[cyn]

May hard hearts be softened as the truth comes out.
Let Terri go home with her family.

[Theodore R.]

Felos said that in FL "PVS" is equivalent of "terminally ill."

[Theodore R.]

Did you know that Michael R. Schiavo has received the "blessing" of a famous Floridian -- former U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno said over the weekend that she strongly favors Terri's immediate death? Of course, the Democrats of FL rejected her just a year ago!

[lewistopher]

Glenn Beck is about to play back clips and discuss big Mike's appearance on LKL. For an audio feed, go to www.wgst.com.

[Theodore R.]

The server limit was exceeded, and I could not get this GA station.

[RGSpincich]

Excellent post.

[Theodore R.]

What happened in court Monday regarding Wolfson as the guardian ad litem? Was this postponed? The five days allowed for appointment of a guardian at litem have passed.

Also, has it been confirmed that Schiavo starved and dehydrated both parents too. The TV presentation was unclear on that point.

Also, why do liberals like Eleanor Clift and Janet Reno "warm" to Schiavo?

[pickyourpoison]

I'm wondering if at some point MS has discovered that Terri remembers enough to rat on him.
Even if she doesn't remember the night it happened, she may remember what's he's done while he was alone with her at the hospice.
He has removed the lawsuit money, no motive there.
He enjoys controlling her parents, possibly motive.
He's getting pressure from attorney as attorney doesn't have a ending for his new book. a possibility
I keep thinking Terri knows something and as long as she lives the possibilty of his exposure is there too.

[pickyourpoison]

You do need to check on that. There's been cases where elderly patients begged for food and water and was refused because of what they had written. I believe one was Marjorie Nighbert, put that name in your google seach and see what you get.

[lugsoul]

The funny thing is, he won a seven figure judgment on the theory that doctors failed to diagnose her condition. I guarantee that the doctors' insurer and defense lawyers thoroughly plumbed (1) the possibility that she didn't have a condition to misdiagnose and (2) the possibility that there could have been some other cause for her collapse before taking it to trial. In addition, the jury assigned partial responsibility to Terri, for her bulimia - there had to be SOME evidence of it before the jury for them to do so, and Michael admitted he didn't know anything of it before her collapse.

[lil'bit]

Here's a good outline/guide for a living will that I have used:

LIVING WILL

LIVING WILL DECLARATION AND DIRECTIVE TO PHYSICIANS OF *

I, * , willfully and voluntarily make known my desire that my life not be artificially prolonged under the circumstances set forth below, and, pursuant to any and all applicable laws in the State of * , I declare that:

1. If at any time I should have an incurable injury, disease, or illness which has been certified as a terminal condition by my attending physician and one additional physician, both of whom have personally examined me, and such physicians have determined that there can be no recovery from such condition and my death is imminent, and where the application of life prolonging procedures would serve only to artificially prolong the dying process, I direct that such procedures be withheld or withdrawn, and that I be permitted to die naturally with only the administration of medication, the administration of nutrition, or the performance of any medical procedure deemed necessary to provide me with
comfort, care, or to alleviate pain.

2. If at any time I should have been diagnosed as being in a persistent vegetative state which has been certified as incurable by my attending physician and one additional physician, both of whom have personally examined me, and such physicians have determined that there can be no recovery from such condition, and where the application of life prolonging procedures would serve only to artificially prolong the dying process, I direct that such procedures be withheld or withdrawn, and that I be permitted to die naturally with only the administration of medication, the administration of nutrition, or the performance of any medical procedure deemed necessary to provide me with comfort, care, or to alleviate pain.

3. In the absence of my ability to give directions regarding my treatment in the above situations, including directions regarding the use of such life prolonging procedures, it is my intention that this declaration shall be honored by my family, my physician, and any court of law, as the final expression of my legal right to refuse medical and surgical treatment. I declare that I fully accept the consequences for such refusal.

4. If I am diagnosed as pregnant, this document shall have no force and effect during my pregnancy.

5. I understand the full importance of this declaration, and I am emotionally and mentally competent to make this declaration and Living Will. No person shall be in any way responsible for the making or placing into effect of this declaration and Living Will or for carrying out my express directions. I also understand that I may revoke this document at any time.
I publish and sign this Living Will and Directive to Physicians, consisting of * typewritten pages, on * , 20* , and declare that I do so freely, for the purposes expressed, under no constraint or undue influence, and that I am of sound mind and of legal age.


Declarant's Signature


Printed Name of Declarant


On * , 20* , in the presence of all of us, the above?named Declarant published and signed this Living Will and Directive to Physicians, and then at the Declarant's request, and in the Declarant's presence, and in each other's presence, we all signed below as witnesses, and we each declare, under penalty of perjury, that, to the best of our knowledge:

1. The Declarant is personally known to me and, to the best of my knowledge, the Declarant signed this instrument freely, under no constraint or undue influence, and is of sound mind and memory and legal age, and fully aware of the possible consequences of this action.

2. I am at least 19 years of age and I am not related to the Declarant in any manner: by blood, marriage, or adoption.

3. I am not the Declarant's attending physician, or a patient or employee of the Declarant's attending physician; or a patient, physician, or employee of the health care facility in which the Declarant is a patient, unless such person is required or allowed to witness the execution of this document by the laws of the state in which this document is executed.

4. I am not entitled to any portion of the Declarant's estate on the Declarant's death under the laws of intestate succession of any state or country, nor under the Last Will and Testament of the Declarant or any Codicil to such Last Will and Testament.

5. I have no claim against any portion of the Declarant's estate on the Declarant's death.

6. I am not directly financially responsible for the Declarant's medical care.

7. I did not sign the Declarant's signature for the Declarant or on the direction of the Declarant, nor have I been paid any fee for acting as a witness to the execution of this document.


Signature of Witness


Printed name of Witness

Address of Witness


Signature of Witness


Printed name of Witness


Address of Witness


Signature of Witness


Printed name of Witness


Address of Witness

County of }
State of }

On * , 20* , before me personally appeared * , the Declarant, and * , the first witness, * , the second witness, * , the third witness, and, being first sworn on oath and under penalty of perjury, state that, in the presence of all the witnesses, the Declarant published and signed the above Living Will Declaration and Directive to Physicians, and then, at Declarant's request, and in the presence of the Declarant and of each other, each of the witnesses signed as witnesses, and stated that, to the best of their knowledge, the Declarant signed said Living Will Declaration and Directive to Physicians freely, under no constraint or undue influence, and is of sound mind and memory and legal age and fully aware of the potential consequences of this action. The witnesses further state that this affidavit is made at the direction of and in the presence of the Declarant.


Signature of Notary Public


Printed name of Notary Public

Notary Public
In and for the County of * ,
State of * .

[Quester]

Terri can not swallow in a voluntary manner. She makes swallowing motions involuntarily, just as her body functions are all involuntary. Her cerebral cortex is gone and the cavity filled with spinal fluid.

The judge ordered five doctors to give findings. Two were paid by Terri's "family", two by Terri's husband and one court ordered neutral. The findings were conclusive, Terri is in a vegetated state and can not improve. When there is no cortex, there can be no improvement. The cerebral cortex can not replenish itself nor be replaced.

It has been proven that Terri cannot swallow voluntarily and will not "learn" to do that, due to her missing cortex.

The only swallowing tests results which have been allowed as evidence are those which MS (the husband who wants his wife to die) has submitted as evidence.

The Schindler family has not been allowed, (by order of MS), to have similar official tests made.

It is a medical claim (affirmed by some doctors and contradicted by others) that all of Terri's movements are involuntary.

Clearly it doesn't look like (per the videos) that all of Terri's movements are involuntary.

The brain-scan is also suspect because it is solely sourced by MS and those who were providing him service.

Further, it should be acknowledged that medical science regarding the brain and it's functioning is not yet absolutely conclusive. It has been commonly observed that when one part of the brain loses function, other parts of the brain can gradually take over that lost functionality.

The functioning of the brain is still not fully understood.

Only three of the five physicians examining Terri concluded that Terri was in an irreversibly vegetative state. Majority rules might be fine for elections, but when it comes to deciding whether a disabled person should be starved to death ... ?

Feeding Terri food/water can cause her to choke to death unless accomplished via the support system.

Once again, there is no independent evidence that this is true.

In the State of Florida, without a living will to guide the court, the decision to remove a life support system is at the discretion of the spouse.

The "feeding tube" in the State of Florida is indeed considered a "life support system" if life cannot be supported without it.

This was true until the Florida legislature passed 'Terri's Law'.

There has been no "test" by Terri's "family" that could ever be reproduced for the courts. The court had been offered a taped incident, but that incident has not and can not apparently be repeated for the court or court appointed Physician.

Correct.

Michael Schiavo has allowed no official tests to be commissioned by anyone other than himself.

He even attempted to restrict the Schindler family from making and distributing videos of Terri.

He further has denied CNN the oportunity to make and provide videos of Terri's current condition (from the Larry King Live broadcast).

Why would he be so determined to disallow any independent information on Terri's condition to be divulged ?

[steve8714]

"chemical imbalance...eating disorder"? She wouldn't drink the special iced tea he nade, so she fell down the steps several times?