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Halloween yobbos can beggar off
Daily Mirror (U.K.) ^ | 10/27/03 | Tony Parsons

Posted on 10/27/2003 1:42:51 PM PST by Pokey78

SOMETHING in our national spirit recoils at the prospect of Halloween and all this hideous event stands for.

The belligerent begging; the spiteful, petty vandalism; the intrusion of leering strangers banging on your front door when your own granny wouldn't dream of turning up unannounced.

The British like to bitch about American imports like Starbucks and McDonald's, but at least these places serve a useful purpose. What use is Halloween?

This shabby American ritual is an excuse for institutionalised begging from hairy-armed thugs who can hardly be bothered to remove their hooded tops, let alone take the trouble of donning fancy dress.

And at least real beggars accept the possibility of refusal. The cretins who come calling on Friday will not take no (or a boiled sweet) for an answer.

The British can't do Halloween. In America there are no acts of bullying and vandalism on Halloween because Americans have got guns. You chuck an egg at someone's front door in Detroit or Dallas and you are taking your miserable life in your hands.

In America, Halloween is for the little ones. It's just like ET - all the little tiddlers dressed up as ghouls and ghosties, and smiling adults pretending to be afraid.

In Britain, the little ones rule the streets for about 15 minutes and then make way for the acne-pocked mob.

The irony is that we have ditched a genuinely British festival because it was deemed too dangerous for our squeaky-clean, safety-conscious age.

Like millions of other Brits, I grew up with the whiff of gunpowder in my nostrils. The thwarting of Guy Fawkes is what we should be celebrating at this time of year.

Sparklers, rockets, bangers, Catherine wheels and jumping jacks - this is our culture, not some hooded youth banging on the door of some cowering pensioner.

Guy Fawkes has slipped out of fashion, just as Halloween has become accepted and celebrated.

There are even attempts to depict Halloween as a genuine pagan tradition, dating back many centuries.

Yeah, right. In its current incarnation, Halloween dates back about as far as Simon Le Bon's love handles. Halloween is an 80s invention from across the Atlantic, just like coffee shops and herpes. And it sucks.

Last year in Dorset - Dorset! - the police were called to investigate more than a hundred Halloween-related crimes, including criminal damage, arson and threatening behaviour.

On Merseyside, 50 of Knowsley's leading yobbos are being taken to Alton Towers for a day out in the vain hope that they will be knackered by the time night falls on Friday.

What a fine way to tackle anti-social behaviour - take the little b******s to a theme park.

The government talks a lot about tackling yob culture and then does nothing at all to stem a night that promotes and encourages the worst kind of boorish behaviour. Indeed, it is tempting to see Halloween as another New Labour product.

It has all the symptoms - the craven acceptance of a lousy American idea, the casual disregard for the safety and happiness of the ordinary citizen.

And the preference for a bit of foreign rubbish over something that has served this country well for countless years.

Sooner or later someone is going to get seriously hurt. When the question is "trick or treat" will the answer one day be a bucket of cat's urine?

The plague of burglary eventually produced Tony Martin, the householder who refused to take any more. How long before Halloween produces its own Tony Martin? How long before some hooded moron goes a little too far, or some harassed householder strikes back?

And then they will all be on our TV screens, the concerned politicians, the grim-faced Old Bill, the weepy relatives. But by then it will be too late.

Give me the good old days of November 5. Give me a banger in my Wellington boot and a sparkler up my tank top and a sky full of fire. Halloween is far too dangerous for me.

Trick or treat? Just try buying off the ponces with a Werther's Original and see what happens.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: halloween
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To: Pokey78
ROTFLMAO! Somebody needs a hug...
21 posted on 10/27/2003 2:02:07 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: mewzilla
Here's a website with Guy Fawkes Day info if anyone's interested.
22 posted on 10/27/2003 2:02:38 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: FreedomCalls; Bon mots
Nope, not in Britain.

I confess I have no idea why Bon mots posted #11 to me.
23 posted on 10/27/2003 2:02:58 PM PST by k2blader (Haruspex, beware.)
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To: Bon mots
I did Halloween in the sixties. It's not an eighties invention

You're right it was going strong at the beginning of the 50s and before. According to my father, may God rest his soul, tipping outhouses was a revered halloween tradition back in the early part of that century.
24 posted on 10/27/2003 2:03:00 PM PST by pt17
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To: Pokey78
I have a pet suspicion that Halloween was invented by the cold medicine industry, what other good reason is there to send all the children in the nation wandering around after dark at the end of the first cold month? Obviously an insidious plot to get children sick and move lots of Robitusin.
25 posted on 10/27/2003 2:03:25 PM PST by discostu (The Joan Wilder?!)
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To: k2blader
Nope, not in Britain.

Well, the article is about Great Britain and how Trick-or-Treating only started to happen in Great Britain in the 80's.

26 posted on 10/27/2003 2:05:07 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: pt17
You're right it was going strong at the beginning of the 50s and before. According to my father, may God rest his soul, tipping outhouses was a revered halloween tradition back in the early part of that century.

In Great Britain???? The article is about Halloween in Great Britain. Nobody went Trick-or-Treating in Great Britain until sometime in the late 80's.

27 posted on 10/27/2003 2:06:37 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Pokey78
Although Tony Parsons seems a bit of a cranky old crosspatch, he might be right about this. The Brits have bad enough teeth as it is without assaulting them with a yearly infusion of candy and sweets.
28 posted on 10/27/2003 2:06:39 PM PST by Works_For_Scale
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To: Pokey78
This shabby American ritual is an excuse for institutionalised begging from hairy-armed thugs who can hardly be bothered to remove their hooded tops, let alone take the trouble of donning fancy dress.

LOL, and what -- this isn't true??

Don't know about you people out there, but the average age of the average Halloweener has been bumped up to about 17 years-old. The "costume" worn now of today's 6-foot trick-or-treater is merely dying his beard red while wearing afore mentioned "hooded top."

29 posted on 10/27/2003 2:07:01 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: pt17
He was talking about Halloween as an American IMPORT from the eighties ,people. ( My dear old mom remembers some halloween parties from the 30's-40's...bobbing for apples,etc. But she has always said that this trick or treat crap was extortion propagated by the candy industry. )
30 posted on 10/27/2003 2:13:26 PM PST by Dixiekraut
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To: Pokey78

31 posted on 10/27/2003 2:16:16 PM PST by potlatch (1 cross + 3 nails = 4 given)
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To: Pokey78
. When the question is "trick or treat" will the answer one day be a bucket of cat's urine?

Dang, these people are INNOVATORS!

One question, how do you hold the cat and the bucket at the same time?
32 posted on 10/27/2003 2:17:17 PM PST by tet68 (multiculturalism is an ideological academic fantasy maintained in obvious bad faith. M. Thompson)
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To: Jonx6
ping
34 posted on 10/27/2003 2:17:44 PM PST by TXFireman
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To: FreedomCalls
Yep.

I just like the title and think the article's funny stuff.
36 posted on 10/27/2003 2:22:36 PM PST by k2blader (Haruspex, beware.)
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To: Pokey78
What in the cat hair is a "boiled sweet"?
37 posted on 10/27/2003 2:24:34 PM PST by T Minus Four
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To: k2blader
and wonder why grown people in our nation take it so seriously.

It's the one chance every year I get to clean out all those fast food condiment packets out of my car, so I can stuff them in the little chirrens' bags.

Go fast and deep, and they never know the difference...

38 posted on 10/27/2003 2:32:06 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Credito Facil !)
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To: ErnBatavia
Yeah - I give 'em ammo - pink cartridges for the little girls, blue for the boys...
39 posted on 10/27/2003 2:35:34 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: JackRyanCIA
What was the holiday that boys would come to the door and ask for money? I barely remember it from the mid 50's but I think it was on Thanksgiving Day.
40 posted on 10/27/2003 2:37:53 PM PST by katnip (It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains)
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