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Agency to probe alleged spousal abuse of Terri Schiavo
Centre Daily Times ^ | Oct. 22, 03 | MICHAEL MARTINEZ AND PAT KAMPERT

Posted on 10/26/2003 10:16:41 PM PST by churchillbuff

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To: aristeides
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41 posted on 10/27/2003 5:05:27 AM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: FL_engineer
The hsuband seals her medical records and prevents her from getting proper therapy. Those facts speak for themselves.
42 posted on 10/27/2003 5:09:16 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Smocker
"It seems in our world of America today, too many heartless people want to eliminate those who are not living the same life style as they are, and if brain damage and retardation are viewed as somehow lacking a "quality of life" which they themselves percieve themselves as enjoying, then those other individuals should quietly put themselves out of the misery of the elite, by dying. The whole thing is so offensive, there are not enough words to describe it."

Just as the Germans let Hitler do his dirty work.
43 posted on 10/27/2003 5:10:00 AM PST by Bluebird Singing
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To: churchillbuff
What is Michael Schiavo afraid of?

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/Terri_michael.htm


44 posted on 10/27/2003 5:12:22 AM PST by Sunshine55 (Go Terri! Thank you Jeb, the world is a better place because of you!)
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To: FL_engineer
--Her medical records were sealed by her husband for over ten years.--

Why in heavens name does that alone not raise questions?
45 posted on 10/27/2003 6:41:26 AM PST by fml
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To: GailA
That information has already gone to the family, GailA .. if the family wishes to make contact, they must initiate the request ..
46 posted on 10/27/2003 7:02:07 AM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: churchillbuff
THANK GOD!
47 posted on 10/27/2003 7:51:49 AM PST by nmh
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To: Sunshine55
Michael S. is in a frenzy to have his wife die. He surely is in a panic about something surfacing. Perhaps his attempt to kill her.
48 posted on 10/27/2003 7:57:16 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Bluebird Singing
"It's amazing how the media overlooks his character."

Surely you jest?

The media LOVES people with sewer character. For 8 years they overlooked that whoremonger in the Whitehouse. They think his character is normal and therefore not newsworthy.
49 posted on 10/27/2003 7:59:21 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (If you continue to do what you've always done, you will continue to get what you've always got)
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To: Simcha7
I saw TERRI'S Dad and Brother on Geraldo's: At Large on FNC Sunday evening and it looks to me that TERRI'S brother Bobby is ready, willing and very able to take Up the cause to FIGHT for TERRI'S RIGHT TO LIFE.

I'm quite serious when I ask: Where is Gloria Allred? Could she be persuaded to come in on the side of Terri, at least to make the case that all issues need to be addressed? Allred is for women's rights, and this is a case of a helpless woman whose rights are in peril.

50 posted on 10/27/2003 9:09:36 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: FL_engineer
Well Fox is covering it at least! I got excited when I saw the title Engineer, thanx for the ping!
51 posted on 10/27/2003 9:13:33 AM PST by JustPiper (18 of 19 Hijackers had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: FL_engineer; All
Exerpts from the Trib article:
The Schindler family has accused Michael Schiavo of abuse and neglect as guardian, and the state protection agency's independent investigation could play a major role in removal of the husband as guardian--as well as shed light on how he managed funds during the guardianship.

Under federal law, the agency is granted strong investigative powers, including examining medical and court-sealed guardian financial records, and its findings of abuse or neglect would be conclusive and pre-emptive of any court or other agency determination, said Patricia Anderson, an attorney for the Schindlers.

"They are referred to as the `big sharks' in the disability field," Anderson said of the agency. "What we have here is a guardianship system that discriminates against disabled people."

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52 posted on 10/27/2003 9:20:47 AM PST by JustPiper (18 of 19 Hijackers had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: FL_engineer
Thanks to you and your TIVO for the info! It really helps to see these exchanges here.
53 posted on 10/27/2003 11:25:31 AM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: churchillbuff
thanks for posting this article -- want to have the whole article here.

Posted on Wed, Oct. 22, 2003
Agency to probe alleged spousal abuse of brain damaged woman
BY MICHAEL MARTINEZ AND PAT KAMPERT
Chicago Tribune


PINELLAS PARK, Fla. - (KRT) - A state protection agency for disabled persons on Wednesday was planning to launch an investigation into alleged spousal abuse against Terri Schiavo, the severely brain damaged woman whose feeding tube was reinserted this week after intervention by the Florida Legislature and Gov. Jeb Bush.

The investigation by the Advocacy Center for Persons with Disabilities, an agency mandated in states and funded by Congress, could play a decisive role in a revived legal battle over who should be the guardian of the 39-year-old Schiavo - her husband or her parents.

Terri Schiavo was moved Wednesday for the second time in two days - this time back to a Pinellas Park hospice where she was receiving nourishment again through a feeding tube. Later, Robert Schindler, her father, said he, his wife and son visited Schiavo for about 45 minutes.

The family was annoyed, Schindler said, that Schiavo had been moved again from the hospital in nearby Clearwater where she had been taken on Tuesday.

Schindler said he was happy to see his daughter, but "she looked to me like a person who has the flu - (someone who would say) don't bother me," He called his daughter "a really tired girl" and said he was struck by some redness in her eyes.

Her parents had also been upset by the earlier decision of Michael Schiavo, Terri Schiavo's husband and guardian, to bar them from visiting her in the hospital in Clearwater.

"Nothing's different. It's been that way for 10 years," Schindler said of the battle between his family and Michael Schiavo over whether Terri Schiavo should be kept alive with a feeding tube or should die. He made his comments outside the hospice, where Schiavo had spent the past week after a court approved removal of her feeding tube.

Even though lawmakers and Bush passed a law Tuesday authorizing the reinsertion of the feeding tube, her husband has authority, as guardian, to determine who is allowed to visit her.

The Schindler family has accused Michael Schiavo of abuse and neglect as guardian, and the state protection agency's independent investigation could play a major role in removal of the husband as guardian - as well as shed light on how the husband managed funds during the guardianship.

Terri Schiavo's husband and her parents have been estranged for a decade while wrangling over her fate; her husband said that his wife told him she didn't want extended life-support, but her parents have disagreed and have sought to keep her connected to a feeding tube.

The law signed Tuesday by Bush requires the chief judge of Pinellas County Circuit Court to begin proceedings to appoint an independent guardian. The husband's attorney has called the law unconstitutional and is expected to initiate a legal challenge.

The chief judge on Wednesday scheduled a Nov. 5 court hearing and has recommended a public health professor at the University of South Florida, Jay Wolfson, as the new guardian if the in-laws cannot agree on a new guardian.

The governor's order of reinsertion of the feeding tube has bought time for the advocacy center to conduct its investigation as to whether Terri Schiavo has been a victim of abuse and neglect over the past 10 years.

Under federal law, the agency is granted strong investigative powers, including examining medical and court-sealed guardian financial records, and its findings of abuse or neglect would be conclusive and pre-emptive of any court or other agency determination, said Patricia Anderson, an attorney for Terri Schiavo's parents.

It was unclear Wednesday why the agency hadn't launched an investigation earlier in the case of Terri Schiavo, who went into a persistent vegetative state after a heart attack induced by a misdiagnosed potassium imbalance in 1990. Her eyes are open, but she is seriously brain damaged, according to doctors.

"They are referred to as the `big sharks' in the disability field," Anderson said of the agency. "What we have here is a guardianship system that discriminates against disabled people."

Richard LaBelle, an attorney and agency board member who is involved in the investigation, said this week's events will aid the investigation.

"I think to the extent that Terri is still alive and will be receiving food and water - we think that's a positive development," he said.

LaBelle said he did not know how long the probe would take, saying it depended on how much cooperation the agency receives in obtaining Schiavo's medical records and access to individuals on both sides of the court fight.

For his part, Michael Schiavo said Wednesday through his attorney that he is outraged that the legislative and executive branches would overturn a judge's order that had allowed him to have the feeding tube removed from his wife.

"It was just an absolute trampling of her personal rights and her dignity," Michael Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, said Wednesday on NBC's "Today." "We believe that a court sooner or later, we hope sooner, will find this law to be unconstitutional."

Felos added it was "an absolute horrible tragedy for Terri Schiavo, literally being abducted from her deathbed and her death process."

Terri Schiavo was already showing signs of organ failure, Felos said. The attorney for the parents, however, said that Felos has no medical background to make such a claim.

One legal expert, Marc Spindelman, an Ohio State University law professor who specializes in death-and-dying issues, said much is riding on what the advocacy center finds in its probe into claims by Terri Schiavo's parents that her husband abused and neglected his wife.

Those accusations have been strongly denied by Michael Schiavo and his attorney.

"Should there be a determination that the allegations against Michael Schiavo are factually supported, it might be the case that the dispute gets resolved by more informal means," Spindelman said.

Some experts are viewing the case as if it's a foregone conclusion that the courts will overturn the new law, under the assumption that Bush, who is President Bush's brother, and the legislature overruled the courts. But that is not necessarily true, said Andrew Koppelman, a constitutional law expert at Northwestern University.

"I don't understand what separation of powers has to do with it," he said. "Some law is going to govern how people behave toward (Terri) tomorrow. The legislature has to have power to legislate today about what we do tomorrow, and that power is not taken away by the fact that the judiciary said something else yesterday."

Koppelman added that the legislature's action may have aided the Schindlers' case.

"If there is a dispute about the constitutionality of the legislation or anything else having to do with the appropriateness of intervention, the court's first duty is to make sure neither side suffers irreparable injury that couldn't be remedied by subsequent litigation," he said.

Thus, the argument could be made that to remove nutrition and hydration before the case winds it way through the courts would cause Terri Schiavo to suffer "irreparable injury," experts said.

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© 2003, Chicago Tribune.

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54 posted on 10/27/2003 11:36:42 AM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: cyn; fml; JustPiper; sweetliberty; yonif; EternalVigilance; floriduh voter; Dustbunny; ...
Teaser for tonight's Hannity and Colmes::::

"We'll hear from a doctor who examined Terri Schiavo, and why he is optimistic about her case. "

I'll Tivo it...

As For LARRY KING, I don't pay for that programming, so someone else will have to detail what was said there.

55 posted on 10/27/2003 6:14:12 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer
I'm watching LKL. Michael and Felos are on--showing scan of Terri's brain, saying it is empty.

MS says Terri's father get ideas from the air that MS abandoned Terri. Said she has never had a bed sore.

56 posted on 10/27/2003 6:19:05 PM PST by NautiNurse
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To: FL_engineer
Well, I've seen all I need to see of the LK show to confirm that Michael is a lying POS. If he said "I love Terri very much" one more time I was gonna puke, so I changed the channel. Yeah, he loves her so much that he's been doing every woman that'd have him ever since BEFORE her trauma apparently. Sorry, but I'm not THAT stupid!
57 posted on 10/27/2003 6:23:20 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: FL_engineer
Transcript from the H&C show with neurologist Dr. William
Hammesfahr show here

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1009306/posts?page=13#13
58 posted on 10/27/2003 8:24:56 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: churchillbuff
Wow, this is excellent!

as well as shed light on how the husband managed funds during the guardianship.

I'll bet there are no funds left.

59 posted on 10/28/2003 2:59:11 PM PST by Dustbunny
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To: All
The Consequences of Casual Conversations CHILLING!!!
60 posted on 10/28/2003 4:00:27 PM PST by The Red Zone
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