Southern CA fires - Live Thread 10/27

10/27/03 | Myself

[spectr17]

Southern CA fires - Live Thread 10/27

Cal Fire Maps

http://wildfire.cr.usgs.gov/ca_geomac/viewer.htm

http://www.incidentcontrol.com

Live online scanner feeds for fire, cops, CDF, air attack

http://www.live365.com/stations/kb6jag

FYI, this one gives pop ups if you use it.

No pop ups on this feed

http://www.police-scanner.info/livescan.htm

Another live scanner feed.

Click on Big Bear Feed

http://www.compucations.com/nuke/html/modules.php?name=LiveScanners

another live feed for socal, Verdugo Fire Communications Center

http://verdugo.ci.glendale.ca.us/radio.html

CHP Dispatch

http://cad.chp.ca.gov/

CDF AIR CHANNELS ---------------- Red - 151.220 - Air to ground units Blue - 151.280 - Air to air Green - 151.295 - Air to air Yellow - 151.310 - Air to air Victor - 122.925 AM - Air to air for contract helicopters

List of channels for SoCal

http://www.qsl.net/ke6alv/

Get a copy of Police call for when you're mobile.

http://www.policecall.com/

San Bernardino National Forest

171.475 mhz and 172.225

123.9750 National Air Tanker Base Freq. 135.9750 Air ops 151.2200 CDF Red Air to Ground 151.2650 CDF Region 151.3100 CDF Air Tactics 6 151.3550 CDF Command Net 1 154.2650 OES White Fire 2 154.2800 OES White Fire 1 154.2950 OES White Fire 3 164.1250 Fire Camp Service Net 166.6125 "Command" Fontana area 166.8500 Air attack 167.9500 BLM Air to Ground 168.0500 NIFC Tac 1 168.0750 NIFC Tac 3 168.200 NIFC Tac 2 (Crew Net) 168.2500 BLM? "Command" 168.4000 BLM "Command" 168.6000 NIFC Tac 3 168.6250 Air Guard 169.1250 Calif. Fire Travel Net 169.0625 vehicle mechanics? 170.0000 Air to Ground Region 5 173.9125 Region 5 Tac 4 173.9625 Region 5 Tac 5 173.9875 Region 5 Tac 6 415.5500 National Air channel

HAM

145.220

Los Angeles Area

KNBC: http://www.nbc4.tv

KABC: http://www.abc7.com

KCBS: http://www.cbs2.com

KTTV: http://www.fox11la.com

KCAL: http://www.kcal.com

San Diego

http://nbcsandiego.feedroom.com/?fr_story=af0368e01c0323615f2e6f30970885b317fe905c

[bonesmccoy]

An event with Arnold showing up, offering assistance would resolve the matter of the lack of bipartisanship in the rescue effort.

Of course, if the GOP leadership isn't smart enough to figure out what is going on, then they don't really belong in leadership anyway... do they?

If the WH won't get the POTUS to California now, he should at least get interviewed by local news media reps in Washington one-on-one.

He needs to counter Davis' air time.

[medscribe]

Oh yeah...great political move there! Let's bring Bush out...let's throw more chaos on the situation by having POTUS tie up highways, shut down streets, etc as he moves around the areas just so he can get a photo-op. Can anyone honestly think that the Secret Service will allow him anywhere NEAR the affected areas?! Let's play politics while people's lives are being destroyed. Frankly, if I'm in the middle of some evacuaion, I would want POTUS and anybody else to get the hell out of the way and not step in my face just to say "I feel your pain."

Just as the Dems tried to make political hay out of the blackout in August (remember Dan Blathermouth saying Bush should cancel his fundraiser and address the nation?), this too will fail because people have common sense. Doofus can play politics all he wants...he's a political dead man walking. Bush should stay where he can do the most good, at the White House to run the country, and not play pandering feel-good politics.

[AlBondigas]

Just heard on KUSI that the fire at I-15 & 76 was small, and has now been extinguished by the CDF.

I heard the same thing but, there's still plenty of smoke & 1 tanker keeps circling (other headed S. about 15 min ago.

I don't think the SR76/I-15 thing is over.
there's now 3 tankers on it !

[South40]

Sorry to hear that. According to local news reports 50+% of all homes in Crest were lost. One station did a live broadcast from the heart of town and it looked devestated. Crest is a great place...close to town yet still very much a rural area. I hope all can afford to rebuild.

[bonesmccoy]

and your opinion is precisely the logic that has lead to NO Republicans in statewide office.

[halfdome]

Yesterday everyone was complaining that Davis was taking too long to come out and make a speech. Now they're complaining that he's out speaking. And it seems logical for the insurance commissioner to have a high profile in a disaster such as this, when thousands will have insurance claims.

[Looking for Diogenes]

As I understand it the price of pine firewood has dropped to less then zero per cord in some of the SoCal mountain areas affected by the bark beetles and drought. That is, no one will buy it and you have to pay to have the wood taken away.

One property I know of is eight acres in the mountains near Julian, San Diego County, and has at least 50 dead Coulter Pines on it, mostly scattered around. The cost to have them removed is very high and so the owner will probably be leave them standing. Most of his absentee neighbors are apparently following the same strategy.

[bonesmccoy]

seeing Arnold out there would fix the lack of GOP representation on the TV emergency coverage.

[slimer]

Hunter said Gen. Richard Myers, the Joint Chiefs chairman, offered use of the Colorado Springs-based Military Aerial Firefighting wing to assist in combating fires, but that the required request from the governor's office for that help has not been made.Another, similar unit at Point Mugu, has already been released to help fight the fires.

This is criminal!

[bonesmccoy]

I know that I've never complained about the absence of comment from Gray Davis.

If anything, this is a federal response issue because the governor has called the gov's of Nevada and Arizona regarding the need for assistance.

[Molly Pitcher]

Thank You!! Can't imagine what it's like to be threatened by these fires with night descending...

[Rushmore Rocks]

Thank you......

The very last thing those brave firefighters and support personnel need is to worry about Presidential photo ops. President Bush is savy enough to know his place right now. Clinton, on the other hand..............

[AlBondigas]

Agree, & I'd like to add :
1. the current "fire areas" voted Doofus out of office
2. in Nov 2004, Doofus' grandstanding on this will be a faint memory.

[nicmarlo]

Incident: 0050 Type: Structure or Grass Fire
Location: TEMECULA
Zoom Map: 958 7G
Info as of: 10/27/2003 2:36:22 PM

ADDITIONAL DETAILS
2:30PM - PER RSO RESIDENTS WITH PROPER ID AND A GOOD REASON ARE BEING ALLOWED THRU
2:23PM - 1039 CDF -RV FD
2:16PM - EAST BENTON JNO DEPORTOLA FIRE STARTING UP

[medscribe]

Are you anywhere NEAR southern California?!? Do you have any idea of the reality on the ground right now?!? These fires are moving so fast and furious, the firefighters are battling for their lives and for entire communities, people are getting BURNED TO DEATH as they are trying to escape...and you want to play political tic-for-tac with the Dems!??!

Maybe you can sit back where you are and count the airtime that Doofus is getting, but people in the area frankly don't give a damn right now. They're too busy trying to save their families and their homes.

[SCalGal]

seeing Arnold out there would fix the lack of GOP representation on the TV emergency coverage.

Yes! Someone's GOT to get some TV time, and they have to look like they are doing something useful/helpful.

[slimer]

Thanks. My sister lives in Temecula.

[bonesmccoy]

YES... I am on the ground in So. Calif.

I am well aware of the situation on the ground...that's why the Davis people have their guy out doing damage control.

ARE YOU IN LA?

Apparently not.

[SCalGal]

Hunter said Gen. Richard Myers, the Joint Chiefs chairman, offered use of the Colorado Springs-based Military Aerial Firefighting wing to assist in combating fires, but that the required request from the governor's office for that help has not been made.Another, similar unit at Point Mugu, has already been released to help fight the fires.

THIS is what needs to be all over the TV!!!

[nicmarlo]

Incident: 0001 Type: Structure or Grass Fire
Location: RAMONA
Zoom Map: 1152 5D
Info as of: 10/27/2003 2:38:44 PM

ADDITIONAL DETAILS
2:08PM - SDG&E ON LL, THEY RE TRYING TO SEND VEHS UP TO RAMONA, CAN THEY GO UP SCRIPPS POWAY PKWY TO NB 67
1:49PM - 79 CLOSED FROM SUNRISE HWY TO SANTA YSABEL, EXCEPT FOR RESIDENTS
1:49PM - PINE HILLS RD CLOSED AT 78, EXCEPT FOR RESIDENTS
1:48PM - PER COMMAND POST: 78-79 CLOSED TO ALL BUT RESIDENTS FROM SANTA YSABEL TO JULIAN