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New Terri Schiavo update & request for information
10-24-03 | Vanity

Posted on 10/25/2003 11:05:35 PM PDT by cpforlife.org

From Debi Vinndege

this site (below) - links to the National Hospice..and now the pieces fall into place. Felos is the Director of the Fl Right to Die (formerly named the Fl Hemlock Society) Greer is on the Board of Directors at Hospice - Felos used to be too...and now we have the Hemlock Society of Hospice?....well isn't this a nice tidy package...and there is money going around, plus lobbying, legislation etc...read on and start worrying... would love to get the names of those who practice this!!!

Hospice for Hemlock Hospice and Right to Die Consultation http://www.hospiceforhemlock.com/_wsn/page2.html

Please copy the whole website to your harddrive as I suspect they might move or take it down entirely. -------------------------------------------- Now for the request for information.

As you all know a hearing is scheduled for Monday regarding Terri. My friend Debi Vinnedge of http://www.cogforlife.org (who lives in Clearwater, FL) filed a complaint with US AG Ashcroft on behalf of Terri’s parents and has been working on their behalf for a long while.

I emailed and asked if there was anything else going on. Here is her response:

we are going to see if we can get the FBI involved from DC - They need me to get a bullet list citing court or testimony that Greer refused to hear or ignored - all allegations of attempted or actual criminal behavior. I need this desperately but am at the RL conference in Miami and won't be back till late Sun night...any help would be greatly appreciated.

I then spoke with her and she clarified that it can't just be a news article that mentions: "court or testimony that Greer refused to hear or ignored - all allegations of attempted or actual criminal behavior."

But actual files to that effect.

She also mentioned a Federal case with a Lazara(?) in September that is important. WE NEED THIS

Also she has heard that there was a separate case with Greer in 1993 where a wife requested a protective order against an abusive husband and Greer "allegedly" blew her off. There seems to be a possible trend where Greer is allegedly "malfesent" in domestic violence cases. WE NEED THIS IF IT IS TRUE

So as not to duplicate, here is what I have. Please only post articles with links to "court or testimony that Greer refused to hear or ignored - all allegations of attempted or actual criminal behavior."

1.

Dr. Hammesfahr, of HAMMESFAHR NEUROLOGICAL INSTITUTE. http://www.hni-online.com/ emphatically stated that the neck spinal injury this patient incurred was by Strangulation. Schiavo's attorney avoided challenging Dr. Hammesfahr's strangulation statement. Proof of those statements below - video of the Dr saying it, along with saying that with therapy, her condition can improve. http://www.floridaneurologicalinstitute.com/schiavo_channel10_may7,8,2001.htm Debi, there are 5 video and audio clips. They total more than 20 MB’s so they wouldn’t be practical to email. All are available at the address above.

2. October 15, 2002 - Dr. Bambikidas's testimony confirmed Dr. Hammesfhar's testimony And this is a scanned image of the bone scan, the actual bone scan! While not proof of her condition, it proves there is something up here that someone is trying to hide. And it shows a good reason for Mike to see terri dead and the body destroyed quickly. http://www.friendsofterri.org/bone.html This will be an HTML file labeled “Bone Scan with highlighted entries”

3. AFFIDAVIT of Sara Green Mele is a Word Document. I copied from http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33875 Posted: August 2, 2003 Sara Green Mele has been engaged in the continuous private practice of speech-language pathology in section In her #5. “Based on my experience and my observations, Mrs. Schiavo is clearly aware of her environment and interacts with it, albeit inconsistently. She is able to comprehend spoken language, and can, at least inconsistently, follow simple one-step commands.” Mele continues on to say Terri is an excellent candidate for many types of therapy.

4. Disabled Woman's Family, Former Nurses Seek Inquiry is an HTML file. The article is dated Sept 10, 2003. I believe may be very important. It is the CNSnews article we discussed on the phone. I downloaded all the pdf files mentioned and labeled them the same as the link name. http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPrint.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200309\CUL20030910c.html

5. Disabled Woman Would Cry 'Help Me,' Caregivers Claim is a “related article” mentioned at the bottom of the above #4 It is dated September 03, 2003 http://www.cnsnews.com/Culture/Archive/200309/CUL20030903b.html


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: cogforlife; debivinnedge; terrischiavo
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To: cpforlife.org
" Greer is on the Board of Directors at Hospice"

Could you provide some documentation for that? It has been disputed on other threads and so far appears to be unsubstantiated. Check this thread. Just want to make sure that we have our facts straight. With all the emailing that we're doing, it isn't going to help our case if we are disseminating inaccurate information.

Oops, I think I forgot to post this. If it is a duplicate, I apologize. It is so hard to keep all these threads straight.

41 posted on 10/26/2003 8:04:59 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Yeah, it won't help. We need to make sure our pleadings are backed up with fact where needed. I thought it was the wife of a fellow judge, and also a former colleague from his time as a county commissioner.
42 posted on 10/26/2003 8:24:50 AM PST by kenth (This is not your father's tagline.)
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To: kenth
"I thought it was the wife of a fellow judge, and also a former colleague from his time as a county commissioner."

I believe you are correct. Check the thread that is linked in the post you reponded to. Some of those details are there.

43 posted on 10/26/2003 8:27:54 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: tutstar; cpforlife.org
pc93 has several petitions, motions, and orders in a document he made that you can find here:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/FedCourtDktCaseNo8_03-cv-1860-T-26TGW.txt.

It contains a lot of stuff, so it's kinda hard to wade through, but these are the Federal filings you can find there:

1.) Amended Complaint, Temp. Restraining Order, and Affidavits filed with the US District Court Judge Lazarra, on behalf of the Schinders by attorneys Pat Anderson and Christopher Ferrara (Amer. Catholic Lawyers Assoc.), dated 8/30/03. (Note: these filings were dismissed on 9/2/03 by Judge Lazarra, but Lazarra said they could refile within 10 days for reconsideration).

2.) 2nd Amended Complaint filed with US Dist. Judge Lazarra, dated 9/22/03 filed on behalf of the Schinders by atty's Pat Anderson and Christopher Ferarra.

3.) Orders by Judge Lazarra in response to the 2nd Amended Complaint filed 9/22/03. The first order is dated 9/23/03 and the 2nd order is dated 9/24/03.

Judge Lazarra eventually dismissed both of these filings, claiming he did not have jurisdiction.

This document also has the Affidavit of Patricia Anderson, Schindler atty., dated 9/8/03, about Greer's lack of discretion in discussing Terri's case (talked to his friend Sheriff Rice and Fla. Deputy Attorney General John Carassas) outside of counsel. This was submitted to the 6th Judicial Court of Florida, though - not at the federal level. But I wanted to mention it as well.

The older stuff is at the bottom, newer at the top.

Hope this helps.
44 posted on 10/26/2003 8:40:56 AM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: cpforlife.org
ACLU attorney on TV says their core argument is separation of powers. Never mind the fact that this is exactly how the system is supposed to work.

FL pres ofACLU, gene baker, comes across as a partisan. Supports FL courts and says legislature has no business. She also ignored families please for therapy during 6 years of litigation.

45 posted on 10/26/2003 8:45:50 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: iowamomforfreedom
did you notice the name LAZARRA?

wonder if this could be the same one referenced in in the post relating to domestic violence case?????
46 posted on 10/26/2003 8:56:46 AM PST by tutstar
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To: cpforlife.org
The Hospice of Suncoast is already in hot water for receiving improper Medicare payments. See this link from the Dept of Health and Human services: http://oig.hhs.gov/oas/reports/region4/49502111.htm. Perhaps this should be brought to the attention of John Ashcroft.

Department of Health and Human Services
Office of Inspector General -- AUDIT
"Review of Hospice Eligibility at Hospice of Florida Suncoast, Inc.," (A-04-95-02111)
August 19, 1996

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:
This final audit report points out that Suncoast, Inc., a home health agency, received improper Medicare payments totaling $8.9 million for 176 ineligible beneficiaries. Another $5.9 million was paid to Suncoast for 118 beneficiaries for whom we were unable to determine whether a terminal illness existed at the time of admission to the hospice. These problems occurred because hospice physicians made inaccurate prognoses of life expectancy based on the medical evidence in the patients' files or because the evidence was not sufficient to determine that the beneficiary was terminally ill. In addition to financial adjustments, we recommended that the intermediary coordinate with the Health Care Financing Administration (HCFA) in providing training to hospice providers and physicians on eligibility requirements for hospice beneficiaries, and conduct periodic reviews of hospice claims to ensure the hospice is obtaining sufficient medical information to make valid eligibility determinations. The intermediary generally agreed with our recommendations and stated it is committed to working closely with HCFA to strengthen program procedures and controls to ensure proper payment of hospice claims.
47 posted on 10/26/2003 9:27:16 AM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: cpforlife.org
Excellent time line of court action covering the years 2000-2002. This is posted here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1000458/posts?page=18#18


January 24-28, 2000 - Terri’s life is on trial in Circuit Court Judge George W. Greer's Courtroom.
February 11, 2000 - Judge Greer rules to have Terri’s feeding discontinued.

February 20, 2000 - A rehearing motion was filed with Judge Greer by Attorney Campbell along with a petition requesting Judge Greer to allow for Terri to be tested to determine if she is capable of swallowing..

February 21, 2000 - Judge Greer denies motion for rehearing..

February 25, 2000 - Michael Schiavo filed a petition to prohibit Terri's family from visiting Terri, and/or severely restricting their visiting hours.

March 7, 2000 - Judge Greer denies petition to perform a swallowing test to see if Terri has the ability to swallow. Judge Greer also:
Ordered Terri's family to submit a visitation "guest list" for Schiavo's approval.


Authorized Schiavo's hiring of a security guard to protect Terri.

Authorized Schiavo to hire a security guard for his own personal protection.

Authorized security personnel costs shall be borne by Terri's Medical Fund.

March 24, 2000 - Attorney Joseph Magri filed an appeal notice with the Appellate Court. Judge Greer issued an "execution stay" allowing Terri to be fed for 30 days beyond the exhaustion of all appeal remedies and restricted Michael Schiavo to seek and lift the stay.

April 10, 2000 - Michael Schiavo clandestinely moved Terri from Palm Gardens Nursing Home to the Woodside Hospice Facility. In an emergency hearing, Judge Greer denied a request by Attorney Campbell to return Terri to Palm Gardens Nursing Home.

April 21, 2000 - Judge Greer denied Attorney Joseph Magri's motion to transfer Terri from Woodside Hospice Facility back to a Registered Nursing Home.

May 9, 2000 - A Court hearing was cancelled after Michael Schiavo verbally committed to sign an agreement that Terri will get the necessary medical treatment at Hospice.

June 18, 2000 - After reneging on his previously agreed terms of the agreement, Michael Schiavo later signed an amended agreement stating he will not withdraw or terminate Terri's medical care or treatment for potential fatal infections, without prior notice to the court. He also agreed to treat Terri for a 5-day period should she have an infection.

July 5, 2000 - Attorney Magri filed a formal appeal with the Appellate Court to reverse Greer's February 2000 ruling authorizing Schiavo to remove Terri's nutrition feeding.

August 23, 2000 - Schiavo’s attorney responded with a Brief to Appellate Court pleading that Terri's feeding tube should be removed and Theresa be allowed to die "naturally."

November 8, 2000 - A three-member panel consisting of Judges Jerry Parker, Chris Altenbernd and John Blue presided at the Appellate Court "oral argument hearing."

January 25, 2001 - The Appellate Court ruled to uphold Judge Greer’s verdict in favor of removing Terri's nutritional feeding tube.

February 8, 2001 - Attorney Magri filed a motion for a rehearing or clarification. He also requested the entire Appellate Court staff of Judges review the decision. It was denied.

March 22, 2001 - At a Judge Greer Court hearing, Schiavo’s attorney requested to remove Terri's feeding immediately asking for Judge Greer to reverse his "execution stay" that allowed Terri to be fed for 30 days beyond the exhaustion of all appeal remedies. Attorney Magri obtained an Appellate Court "30-day stay" preventing the immediate removal of Terri's feeding.

March 29, 2001 - Judge Greer reversed his original "execution stay" ordering Terri's feeding to be removed when the Appellate Court "30-day stay" expires on April 20, 2001. Attorney Magri then filed an Appeal with the Florida Supreme Court. He also filed with the Appellate Court for an extension of the "30-day stay," in an attempt to guarantee Terri protection until the appeal with the Florida Supreme Court is completed.

April 1, 2001 - The Appellate Court denied extending the "30-day stay."

April 12, 2001 - Attorneys Anderson and Eckert filed in the Circuit Court to disqualify Judge Greer from Terri's case due to discrepancies Greer permitted in his courtroom.

April 16, 2001 - Judge Greer denies motion.

April 18, 2001 - The Florida Supreme Court refused to hear Terri's case and refused to extend Terri's "stay," beyond 1 p.m. Friday, April 20, 2001. Attys. Anderson and Eckert filed a suit in the Federal Court requesting that court intervene in Terri's case.

April 19, 2001 - The Federal Court conducted a morning hearing where Judge Lazzara claimed the issue was beyond that court's jurisdiction. The Judge extended Terri's "execution stay" to 5 p.m. Monday, April 23, 2001. Attorney Magri filed an appeal with the US Supreme Court

April 23, 2001 - Judge Kennedy of the US Supreme Court refuses to hear Terri’s case.

April 24, 2001 -Terri's feeding was terminated.

April 25, 2001 - Michael Schiavo denies Terri's sister and brother from visiting Terri.

April 26, 2001 - Attorneys Anderson and Eckert presented the Cyndi Brasher Shook new findings to Judge Greer that Schiavo had perjured himself at Terri's, January 2000 trial. Judge Greer refused to hear the new evidence because it was presented after one-year time constraints. Terri had not had any nutrition for 48 hours.

April 27, 2001 - Attorneys Anderson and Eckert presented the same new evidence that Schiavo had perjured himself at Terri's 2000 Trial to Civil Court Judge Frank Quesada. In an emergency hearing, Judge Quesada ordered Terri's feeding resumed. Terri had not had any nutrition for 60 hours. What was this evidence? Remember Michael's girlfriend from the time of the very first trial? She came forward with the testimony that Michael had told her, all the way back then, that Terri had never told him what her wishes would be in a situation like this, as Michael had stated previously. Her reason for not coming forward years earlier? She was afraid of Michael. Bobby Schindler did not find this hard to believe, as he had already come to the conclusion that Michael is a very controlling and violent person. The violence was first evident to Bobby in an altercation they had early in his relationship with Terri. He cannot even recall what Michael was angry about, but he had grabbed Bobby by the neck, threw him to the ground, and was ready to strike him with a closed fist when the family intervened an stopped him.

April 30, 2001 - Schiavo's attorney filed an emergency motion with the Appellate Court, appealing Judge Quesada’s order, and to stop Terri's nutritional feeding immediately.

May 7, 2001 - Dr. Hammesfahr (neurology), filed a six page affidavit with the court stating Terri was not in a Persistent Vegetative State, accompanied by a formal letter requesting Schiavo’s permission to allow Terri to begin rehabilitation treatment.

May 7, 2001 - Attorney's Anderson and Eckert filed an "Amended Complaint in the Civil Court." In addition to the initial Fraud and Perjury charges levied against Schiavo, this document contains charges of Breach of Fiduciary Duty and Conspiracy.

May 8, 2001 - Witness Cindy Brashers Shook rendered her deposition. (Michael's ex-girlfriend)

May 9, 2001 - The Court of Appeals ordered "Oral Arguments" for June 25, 2001.

May 11, 2001 - Judge Quesada denied Schiavo's attorneys motion to negate Judge Quesada's jurisdiction.

June 1, 2001 - Attorneys Anderson and Eckert filed a court motion, which included five additional affidavits from physicians (neurologists) stating Terri was not in a "persistent vegetative state," as portrayed by Schiavo.

June 8, 2001 - Michael Schiavo was issued a deposition subpoena. On two separate occasions the subpoena servers could not locate Schiavo. He and his fiancée had vacated their residence, their whereabouts were unknown.

June 14, 2001 - At the 11th hour, Schiavo’s attorney gave notice Schiavo would not be available for his scheduled deposition.

June 18, 2001 - Schiavo's attorney filed an affidavit from Dr. James Barnhill, reiterating his trial testimony that Terri is in an irreversible vegetative state. The statement goes on to maliciously attack the credibility of the six neurologist’s affidavits.

June 20, 2001 - In a hearing held by Judge Quasada, he declined to designate Terri as a "Key Witness," opting to wait for the Appellate Court appeal decision.

June 21, 2001 - In a hearing, Pinellas Chief Judge elect, Demers ordered the lawsuit, charging Michael Schiavo with "Fraud and Perjury," to remain in the civil court. However, he gave Judge Greer authority on whether Terri should have any new medical evaluation or treatment. Greer will also determine if Terri's sister and brother can visit Terri.

June 25, 2001 - A three-member panel consisting of Judges Jerry Parker, Chris Altenbernd and John Blue presided at the Appellate Court "oral argument hearing."

July 11, 2001 - The Appellate Court issued a ruling allowing a motion be filed in Judge Greer's Probate court to request evidentiary hearings. The Appellate Court denied Schiavo's attorney’s request to order Terri's feeding stopped.

July 20, 2001 - Attorney Larry Crow joined Attorney Anderson as co-counsel. In motions filed by Attorney Pat Anderson, Judge Greer was presented with evidence that that Schiavo had abused Terri both neurological and medically over the past eight years and that Terri's neurological condition was misrepresented at her January 2000 trial.

July 23, 2001 - Schiavo's attorney requested Judge Greer issue an order to immediately discontinue Terri's feeding before reviewing of any of the evidence.

August 7, 2001 - Judge Greer ignored all the evidence presented to him and ordered to have Terri's feeding stopped on August 28, 2001. In his written court order, he admitted he did not read six of the seven doctor's affidavits.

August 9, 2001 - Schiavo’s attorney plea to dismiss the Civil Lawsuit, charging Michael Schiavo with fraud and perjury, was reviewed at a hearing in Judge Schaefer’s civil courtroom. Judge Schaefer determined future hearings would be conducted to determine if the charges supported a jury trial and that Michael Schiavo’s deposition would not be required until after the hearing process.

August 10, 2001 - Attorney Crow filed a motion with Judge Greer requesting an expedited hearing regarding Michael Schiavo's improprieties while acting as Terri's legal guardian. A petition to have Michael Schiavo removed as Terri’s legal guardian accompanied this. Attorney Crow listed numerous Florida Statutes that Michael Schiavo had violated acting as Terri's legal guardian. Attorney Crow also filed a motion requesting a hearing to allow independent medical experts to have access to Terri. Judge Greer denied the motion and the request to conduct a hearing regarding this issue.

August 14, 2001 - Attorney Anderson filed a motion requesting Judge Greer to remove himself from Terri's case revealing that, because of severe eyesight problems, Judge Greer could not see Terri's trial videotape and neurological scans. Judge Greer denied the motion.

August 16, 2001 - Attorney Anderson announced she had filed a "Notice of Appeal" with the Second District Appellate Court.

August 17, 2001 - Judge Greer granted Terri a "stay of execution" until October 9, 2001 to allow Terri "due process of the law" in filing an appeal with the Appellate Court.

August 20, 2001 - Schiavo's attorney filed with the Appellate Court to negate Greer's October 9 'stay' and have Terri's nutrition and hydration feeding terminated immediately.

August 22, 2001 - Attorney Pat Anderson files motion stating that Schiavo’s attorney is attempting to "trick the court" into permitting Terri's death before the Appellate Court has an opportunity to hear evidence.

September 26, 2001 - A three-member panel consisting of Judges Jerry Parker, Chris Altenbernd and John Blue presided at the Appellate Court "oral argument hearing." The core of the appeal is that Judge Greer did not follow the Appellate Court's July 11, 2001 instructions. Judge Greer admitted he ignored the doctors sworn opinions and summarily rejected additional evidence that unmistakably proved Michael Schiavo lied to the court at the original trial. Rather, Judge Greer ordered Terri's feeding to be withdrawn on Oct. 9.

October 1, 2001 - A hearing was conducted in Judge Greer's Courtroom regarding Terri's visitation and videotaping. Judge Greer agreed to allow Terri's sister (Suzanne) and brother (Bobby) to visit Terri based on a negotiated arrangement, which contained rigid restrictions. Also, Judge Greer and Schiavo's attorney gave permission to take memorializing videotape or still photographs of Terri with restrictions, while giving copyright protection to Michael Schiavo.

October 3, 2001 - The Appellate Court issued an "indefinite stay" maintaining Terri's nutritional feeding until they issue any further order regarding her case.

October 17, 2001 - The Appellate Court issued a ruling, which will allow five doctors to examine Terri. The court's decision authorizes the doctors to only conduct diagnostic tests in order to determine if Terri's condition can be treated. At the culmination of this process, an evidentiary hearing will be held in Judge Greer's courtroom to determine Terri's fate.

October 23, 2001 - Michael Schiavo’s attorney requested a rehearing in an attempt to reverse the Appellate Courts, October 17 decision allowing Terri to be examined.

November 1, 2001 - The Court of Appeals denied Schiavo's rehearing motion.

November 16, 2001 - Prior to a Judge Greer scheduled case management hearing to establish procedures and time frames for Terri's neurological evaluation, Schiavo's attorney suggested negotiating the medical segment of Terri's case with a mediator.

December 19, 2001 - In an all day attempt to mediate an agreed upon solution to Terri's evaluation, retired Judge Horace Andrews acted as a mediator.

January 18, 2002 - A hearing was conducted in Judge Greer’s court after all attempts to achieve a mediated agreement with Schiavo’s attorney were unsuccessful. Judge Greer established a time schedule for Terri’s evaluation. Attorney Anderson, convinced Judge Greer that Terri's medical condition was an important prerequisite in arriving at Terri’s true neurological status. Judge Greer finally will allow Terri to have a full medical examination in February 2002.

January 25, 2002 - An evidentiary hearing was scheduled to examine if Michael Schiavo has discharged his statutory duties as Terri's guardian. The hearing was scheduled after Attorney Anderson revealed Schiavo’s guardianship reports were in breach of the Florida Guardianship Laws, some with as many as a dozen violations. Attorney Anderson had subpoenaed Michael Schiavo, along with a number of others to testify at this hearing. Schiavo's attorneys requested that Judge Greer cancel the hearing on the promise that Michael Schiavo would submit a new guardianship plan. Judge Greer postponed the hearing.

February 7, 2002 - Schiavo's attorney filed an appeal with the Florida Supreme Court to overturn the Appellate Court's October 17, 2001 ruling, which ordered five doctors to conduct diagnostic tests to determine if Terri's condition can be treated.

February 14, 2002 - The Florida Supreme Court issued a "hold" until they could review Terri's case. Their action could delay the medical scheduling arrangements that Judge Greer established for Terri's doctor examinations.

March 14, 2002 - The Florida Supreme Court denied Michael Schiavo’s appeal.

April 5, 2002 - At a hearing conducted by Judge Schaefer, Schiavo’s attorney requested dismissal of two charges filed against Michael Schiavo in the May 7, 2001 civil lawsuit. Judge Schaefer directed Attorney Anderson to re file her brief in greater detail before any decision can be made to dismiss the charges.

April 24, 2002 - Judge Greer conducted a hearing in his chambers and authorized Schiavo’s attorney to continue using Terri's medical fund money to underwrite the doctor fees ($450/hour) in Terri's upcoming neurological evaluation. Judge Greer indicated he would select the fifth doctor to examine Terri.

October 2, 2002 -Judge Greer conducted a hearing in response to Schaivo's attorney's petition to deny the showing of Terri's examination video tapes to the media after they have been presented to Judge Greer as evidence in the upcoming trial. In addition to attorney Pat Anderson, the local media had legal representation to argue against Felos's attempt to block the videotapes.

Judge Greer ruled to allow the media to video the examination tapes as they are shown on the court TV monitor and air whatever they video on their station's newscasts. However the Judge will not make a decision to release the tapes to the media until after the trial is completed.

October 14, 2002 -Dr. Hammesfahr testified that in all of his past experiences he has only had one patient who suffered a neck spinal cord injury that was similar with what he had found during his examination of Terri. Attorney Anderson asked Dr. Hammesfahr how this injury occurred to that patient. Dr. Hammesfahr emphatically stated that the neck spinal injury this patient incurred was by Strangulation. Schiavo’s attorney avoided challenging Dr. Hammesfahr’s strangulation statement.

October 15, 2002 - Dr. Bambikidas's testimony confirmed Dr. Hammesfhar's testimony that Terri did not have a heart attack and that Terri did appear to suffer from a spinal cord neck injury when admitted to the hospital the night of Terri's collapse.
48 posted on 10/26/2003 9:37:24 AM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: cpforlife.org
We've been having a discussion on another thread about Greer's wife being on the Board of Directors at the Hospice, but couldn't find anything to back it up. Your post says that Greer is on the board. We couldn't find any proof of this and we want to make sure we are accurate.

Judge in Life or Death Case Considered Conservative, Compassionate (Terri Schiavo Case)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1007965/posts

If Greer is on the board, would you put links to any articles or websites that have Greer as a member of the board of directors?

We know it is true about Felos being a past Board Chair of The Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, the largest non-profit Hospice in the world, because it is in his bio at his publisher's site.
49 posted on 10/26/2003 9:40:05 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: iowamomforfreedom
He cannot even recall what Michael was angry about, but he had grabbed Bobby by the neck, threw him to the ground, and was ready to strike him with a closed fist when the family intervened an stopped him.

Can this be proven I wonder? His word their word or what?

50 posted on 10/26/2003 9:59:10 AM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska
He cannot even recall what Michael was angry about, but he had grabbed Bobby by the neck, threw him to the ground, and was ready to strike him with a closed fist when the family intervened an stopped him.

Can this be proven I wonder? His word their word or what?

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I don't know. But if there can be shown a history of this type of behavior by Michael, I would think that would help Terri.
51 posted on 10/26/2003 10:32:26 AM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: T'wit
I couldn't open either of your mails (same thing happened with my Mom the other day) ... could you resend?
52 posted on 10/26/2003 10:59:54 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Will do, but what I said, I can say here: welcome back! Try Freepmailing me, too, so we can catch up on addresses and all. I do have some news :-)
53 posted on 10/26/2003 11:20:52 AM PST by T'wit
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To: RLK
Greer is on the Board of Directors at Hospice -"

The hospice board of directors does not list any Greer as a director.
54 posted on 10/26/2003 12:07:14 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: cpforlife.org
I think a nurse posted on one of the threads that it's Florida law that a patient who's on a feeding tube be tested every six months to see if he/she can be fed through the mouth. Since Greer hasn't allowed this, he's breaking the law.

Does anyone else remember this?
55 posted on 10/26/2003 12:17:05 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: cpforlife.org
Thanks so much for the update and the links.




56 posted on 10/26/2003 12:44:15 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (I love the smell of winning, the taste of victory, and the joy of each glorious triumph)
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To: Theodore R.
Did anyone find out if George W. Greer's church has come out for Terri living? Would such a stance make him uncomfortable in the church? Greer's "Republicanism" and "Baptist" ties make this case all the more baffling.
57 posted on 10/26/2003 1:10:37 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
Greer wouldn't be the first conservative Baptist lawyer who confused women with male property.
58 posted on 10/26/2003 2:00:43 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: cpforlife.org; Poohbah; ambrose; Chancellor Palpatine; Catspaw
Dr. Hammesfahr, of HAMMESFAHR NEUROLOGICAL INSTITUTE. http://www.hni-online.com/ emphatically stated that the neck spinal injury this patient incurred was by Strangulation. Schiavo's attorney avoided challenging Dr. Hammesfahr's strangulation statement. Proof of those statements below - video of the Dr saying it, along with saying that with therapy, her condition can improve. http://www.floridaneurologicalinstitute.com/schiavo_channel10_may7,8,2001.htm Debi, there are 5 video and audio clips. They total more than 20 MB’s so they wouldn’t be practical to email. All are available at the address above. 2. October 15, 2002 - Dr. Bambikidas's testimony confirmed Dr. Hammesfhar's testimony And this is a scanned image of the bone scan, the actual bone scan! While not proof of her condition, it proves there is something up here that someone is trying to hide. And it shows a good reason for Mike to see terri dead and the body destroyed quickly. http://www.friendsofterri.org/bone.html This will be an HTML file labeled “Bone Scan with highlighted entries”

BS Both of these doctors were appointed by the court to review Terri's case. They examined her and the records. No such "strangulation" findings were reported to the court. Further, Dr. H could provide no specifics on how he could improve Terri's condition and Dr. B testified that Terri IS in a PVS.

Appelate Court Decision June 6, 2003

59 posted on 10/26/2003 2:13:41 PM PST by RGSpincich
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Thanks for posting this. I can't believe those two aren't in deep doo doo yet!
60 posted on 10/26/2003 2:17:57 PM PST by PeyersPatches
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