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They already call us the Great Satin, so what is the big deal. I'll take Christian tolerance over Muslim tolerance anyday.
1 posted on 10/25/2003 4:47:53 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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I love how we're supposed to forget that we're Christian while they get to use their god (small 'g') to beat us up...
2 posted on 10/25/2003 4:49:49 PM PDT by mhking
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Cynthia Tucker is the skid mark on the underwear of Atlanta.

3 posted on 10/25/2003 4:50:55 PM PDT by Gringo1 (Some days you are the pidgeon....and other days the statue.)
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I say give the General another star, he understands Islam.
5 posted on 10/25/2003 4:56:57 PM PDT by bereanway
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This from the woman who recommended adding Spam to food drops for the Muslim civilians in Afghanistan!
6 posted on 10/25/2003 4:58:50 PM PDT by GeorgiaYankee (The Mainstream Media=The Lamestream Media)
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Cynthia Tucker is the editorial page editor

Leftist big-city newspapers have no shame.

8 posted on 10/25/2003 5:21:37 PM PDT by Missouri
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Whatever the General is, or his supporters, there is absolutely no doubt that Cynthia Tucker is seriously mentally ill ~ dangerously so!
9 posted on 10/25/2003 5:30:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Not so much to win the hearts and minds of Muslims, as to win the hearts and minds (and give a bit of resuscitation to Christianity) of the people in this country.

We are losing Christian teachings, and ethics, by default. They are no longer being sufficiently emphasized, and have been reduced to the moral equivalence of, say, animal worship.

Muslims may have to show us how their religion is worthy of the respect of intelligent people.
10 posted on 10/25/2003 5:43:54 PM PDT by alloysteel
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Maybe we should put the article's "quotes" in their original context.  These can be found on the Michael Savage page:  http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/generalboykin.html .

This is from a presentation to the FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH, BROKEN ARROW, OKLA., JUNE 30, 2002.  Bear in mind, in a church one would expect to hear about the spiritual aspects of any given subject.  That is why many go to church; to consider how our spiritual lives interact with our worldly lives.

"And then we began to see this face the face of Osama bin Laden. And finally we said, 'There's the enemy. That's our enemy. That's the man that hates us. And all of those that follow him."

[PICTURE OF PRESIDENT BUSH] "And then this man stepped forward. A man that has acknowledged that he prays in the Oval Office. A man that's in the White House today because of a miracle. You think about how he got in the White House. You think about why he's there today. As Mordecai said to Esther, 'You ave been put there for such a time and place.' And this man has been put in the White house to lead our nation in such a time as this.

"But who is that enemy? It's not Osama bin Laden. Our enemy is a spiritual enemy because we are a nation of believers. You go back and look at our history, and you will find that we were founded on faith. Look at what the writers of our Constitution said. We are a nation of believers. We were founded on faith."

[PICTURE OF SATAN] "And the enemy that has come against our nation is a spiritual enemy. His name is Satan. And if you do not believe that Satan is real, you are ignoring the same Bible that tells you about God. Now I'm a warrior. One day I'm going to take off this uniform and I'm still going to be a warrior. And what I'm here to do today is to recruit you to be warriors of God's kingdom."

To the  GOOD SHEPHERD CHURCH, SANDY, ORE., JUNE 21, 2003
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"And we ask ourselves this question, 'Why do they hate us? Why do they hate us so much?'

Ladies and gentlemen, the answer to that is because we're a Christian nation, because our foundation and our roots are Judeo-Christian. Did I say Judeo-Christian? Yes. Judeo-Christian.

"That means we've got a commitment to Israel. That mean's it's a commitment we're never going to abandon.

"Go back and read the history books. Go back and read what the early founders of this nation said about Israel, about the Jews. John Adams wrote extensively of, he called it the Hebrews, the contributions they had made to our concepts of liberty and the importance of their contributions to the founding of this great nation.

"Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin each, independently, when asked to come up with a national symbol for this new nation, both came up with a national symbol that reflected on our Jewish heritage.

"One had Moses standing over the Red Sea with his staff and the water parting.

"The other had the Israelites coming out of bondage in the desert being led by a ball of fire. They recognized the importance of our relationship to the Jews and to Israel. Ladies and gentlemen, we will never abandon Israel, we will never walk away from our commitment to Israel because our roots are there.

Our religion came from Judaism, and therefore these radicals will hate us forever."

To the FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH, DAYTONA, FLA., JAN. 28, 2003
 
"There was a man in Mogadishu named Osman Atto. You see him in the movie ["Blackhawk Down"], smoking a big cigar and talking philosophically. How many of you have seen the movie? Acting like a big shot. Well let me tell you something. That's not what Osman Atto did. The reality was Osman Atto was Aideed's closest ally. He was Aideed's top lieutenant. He was a multimillionaire financier for Aideed's clan. And we knew if that if we could capture Osman Atto and take him away, that we could destroy Aideed's network. So we went after Osman Atto about two weeks before the battle.... We went after Osman Atto. We got into a terrible fight. And I'm sad to say a lot of Somalis were killed as we went after Osman Atto.

But we missed him by seconds. He walked out of the facility that we raided, he walked down the street and blended in with the crowd and we missed him.

"And then he went on CNN and he laughed at us, and he said, 'They'll never get me because Allah will protect me. Allah will protect me.'

"Well, you know what I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God, and his was an idol. But I prayed, Lord let us get that man.

"Three days later we went after him again, and this time we got him. Not a mark on him. We got him. We brought him back into our base there and we had a Sea Land container set up to hold prisoners in, and I said put him in there. They put him in there, there was one guard with him. I said search him, they searched him, and then I walked in with no one in there but the guard, and I looked at him and said, 'Are you Osman Atto?' And he said 'Yes.' And I said, 'Mr. Atto, you underestimated our God.'"

To my mind, Gen. Boykin represents exactly the type of person I want assuming a leadership role in our defense against the stated declaration of war against us by the extreme, radical members of "the religion of peace."  The first amendment to our constitution protects us from abridgments to the free exercise of religion.  This applies to the private lives of all citizens, even those in the military.
11 posted on 10/25/2003 11:05:31 PM PDT by Free2Be49 (A wise man's heart inclines him toward the right, but a fool's heart toward the left. Ecc. 10:2 RSV)
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Muslims only want free speech for Muslims.
Al Lat was the chief PAGAN Arab god whom Mohamet also worshipped while he was growing up, just like any other good Arab at the time, and that is a FACT.
General Boykin, even as a General fighting the war on terrorism has a CONSTITUTIONAL right to his beliefs.
I'll bet this Cynthia idiot has no problem with the Muslims like Mahathir or Muslims who, every day, lie and distort the beliefs of millions of Christians claiming Christians are polytheists.
I'll bet this Cynthia idiot has said nothing about the statements of so called "Islamic" leaders of nations.
I can't print what I think about this Cynthia person; it's too 'nasty'.
14 posted on 10/26/2003 6:54:11 AM PST by DianaN (Eternal Freedom)
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Also, the only reason Arab Christians call God "Allah" is the fact that long ago they were brainwashed by liars who believe in MYTHS.
15 posted on 10/26/2003 6:55:26 AM PST by DianaN (Eternal Freedom)
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One more thing: The Christian God has a personal name and his name is NOT "Allah", depending on language Jesus, Joshua, Yeshua, Yahoshua, Innous, etc.
The name "Allah" for God's came into being with Arab PAGAN beliefs in the chief PAGAN Arab god named Al Lat.

"Allah" in the Hebrew was an oak tree god and the name means a CURSE. (Harper's Bible Dictionary-older edition and Strong's Concordance).
16 posted on 10/26/2003 6:58:49 AM PST by DianaN (Eternal Freedom)
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"It is not a matter of worshipping different gods," said Richard C. Martin, Emory University professor of Islamic studies. "The Arabs who are Christians use the word 'Allah' for God. We start out with the notion we are not talking about three different religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) with three different gods."

Same ole Same ole b.s. story....

Jesus said of Himself that He is God

If you have seen me you have seen THE FATHER

I and the father are one

Christians belive in the Tri-Une God ..three in one

God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit

Islam claims that Jesus is not God ...That God has no Son...and that Jesus is the equal of Mohammed their pedophile murdering plundering terrorizing prophet..

The "Moral Equivalancy" of Jesus to Mohammed ....IS A LIE....

Islam claims Jesus was not crucified...was not resurected from the dead...did not ascend to Heaven and is not returning to Judge both man and angels

Most importantly Islam does not believe that a saving relationship with Jesus Christ as the only appropriation for sin is necessary to live after death..

When looking at the other various attributes of the Muslim version of God it is quite easy to see many many differences between their version of god and the One True God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob from whom King David is directly descended ,and for Christians, from whom Jesus of Nazareth..the Christ is also descended (on his mother's side ..of course :))

So who is the god of Islam?

The woman from Egypt who worshipped the false gods of Egypt (which later became greek an roman gods) was Hagar...she was the servant of Abraham's wife Sara

Sara was thought to be barren ..she was concerned that her husband would have no heir and have to leave all to a trusted friend...she convinced Abraham to take Hagar her servant and through her have an heir...

Hagar gave birth to Ishmael...who was Abraham's first born..and in line to rule over the Hebrews God however had other plans and blessed Abraham and Sara with a son..Isaac..

It is to Isaac's line that all the covenant between God and man is made...and eventually to Christians in Christ the Savior..

Upon Ishmael God laid a curse ..that though his descendants would be many in number... "His hand would be against every man and every man's hand against him"...

Mohammed himself while having his "religous experience" from which the Koran was written believed at the time he was being attacked by a demon...one of his wives suggested to him that this was in reality an Angel and not a demon and therefore he should heed what this creature spoke..

If the god of Islam were the same God of Israel then in order to be right with the true God Islam would not only be allied with Israel it would be her most staunch defender...instead of trying to destroy her and kill every Jew and Christian on the earth or convert by torture ,death threats, murder, rape ,extortion ,and terror...

Their deeds and actions prove exactly who "their" version of God is...and it is not of Israel or Christ...but of the devil...plain and simple...

imo

17 posted on 10/26/2003 7:18:21 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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