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Is Terri Schiavo Dead? Eat, drink, and vegetate
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| 10-23-03
| Ronald Bailey
Posted on 10/25/2003 11:35:53 AM PDT by ambrose
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To: yesnettv; Chancellor Palpatine
The neurologist has his license on probation.
If your daughter's life was on line, would you choose such a doctor to testify on your behalf?
If Terri is not in vegetative state, why not find two neurologists who would testify without creating controversy?
The neurologist presented by the Schindlers did not help the Schindlers' case at all:
In Greer's order, the Pinellas probate judge labeled Hammesfahr a "self-promoter," who testified that he had treated patients worse off than Mrs. Schiavo yet "offered no names, no case studies, no videos and no test results to support his claim." In short, the judge wrote in the nine-page order, he needed "something more than a belief" that some new treatment could restore Mrs. Schiavo's faculties "so as to significantly improve her quality of life. There is no such testimony, much less a preponderance of evidence to that effect."
To: george wythe
Schiavo offered two neurologists with excellent credentials
matter of opinion........
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posted on
10/27/2003 11:51:33 AM PST
by
tutstar
To: Gringo1
I thought she wasn't suffering, which is how y'all can justify starving her.
403
posted on
10/27/2003 11:53:00 AM PST
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: ChemistCat
Is your mother devout? The only way I got through to my devout yet right-to-die-oriented friends was to point out that it is not given to us to determine the hour of our own death. That one belongs to God, and it's beyond presumptuous of us to anticipate Him.
404
posted on
10/27/2003 11:58:33 AM PST
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: Gringo1
Well? Several of us have asked you to explain how it is that if she's PVS and therefore not suffering, it's torture to keep her alive. Having a problem reconciling the contradiction, are you?
405
posted on
10/27/2003 12:02:46 PM PST
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: tutstar
Schiavo offered two neurologists with excellent credentials matter of opinion........
You might like the credentials of the Schindlers doctors better, but you also have to consider that the Schindlers failed to provide the minimum proof required to prevail.
For the sake of argument, lets assume that both Schiavo and Greer are the devils spawn, and you are a member of the appeal court, or the Florida Supreme Court, or the US Supreme Court who wants to help the Schindlers.
If the Schindlers expert does not introduce case studies, names, videos, test results or other standard evidence on the record, how can anyone rule in the Schindlers behalf?
The Schindlers might be completely right about their case, but apparently, they have had poor legal representation.
To: Xenalyte
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Ella esta muerta, pero por tus esfuerzos, ella sufre mucho. Ustedes deben permitirla morir en paz.
407
posted on
10/27/2003 12:06:51 PM PST
by
Gringo1
(Some days you are the pidgeon....and other days the statue.)
To: Chancellor Palpatine
Yep, Dr. H is all about HIS technique of restoring bloodflow to damaged areas of the brain. His technique will not repair dead portions of the brain, as in the Schiavo case. A self-promoter who is giving the Schindlers false hope.
To: Xenalyte
When you good christianscan explain to me how you know what god wants, I'll explain how she is suffering.
Does god have a ping list, or do you guys get faxes or memos?
409
posted on
10/27/2003 12:14:15 PM PST
by
Gringo1
(Some days you are the pidgeon....and other days the statue.)
To: Gringo1
We have the Bible. What does your god provide by way of direction? (I notice you cleverly evade the question yet again.)
410
posted on
10/27/2003 12:18:19 PM PST
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: Diddley
She gives all who know or meet her much joy. And she shows pride when she learns or repeats a new skill (such as sitting). Her value (besides being a person) is the joy she spreads and the skills that she pridefully accomplishes. She contributes and knowingly accomplishes two things that make her life worthwhile. Praise be to God, Diddley! You, I can see you are a proud grandpa and rightfully so.
Nothing like loving a precious one.
Your granddaughter sounds kind of like my dear son. He laughs with his whole body. What a blessing he is to us. If others can't see it, then they are the ones missing out!
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posted on
10/27/2003 12:26:41 PM PST
by
4Godsoloved..Hegave
(Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:)
To: ambrose
She was given verbal commands and performed appropriately. She hear's her father's voice and responds with the appropriate name-Dad. She's listening to some awful music and once her mother opens her mouth she smiles. Reason magazine should come to the conclusion that Mr. Bailey suffers from PVS. He can only give reflexive responses that indicate an inability to actually comprehend the subject and evaluate the evidence.
To: george wythe
So are you saying Dr. Webber did examine Terri Schiavo?
quackwatch.org? Isn't that Dr. Stephen Barrett's site? Isn't he the same person that was listed at healthfreedomlaw.com with charges againest him for: trespassing; illegal influence of foreign government officials; filing false police reports; stalking; mail fraud; wire fraud; perjury; subornation of perjury; and extortion? Or is that another quackwatch.org?
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posted on
10/27/2003 12:28:44 PM PST
by
Calpernia
(Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
To: george wythe; Calpernia; TaxRelief; huck von finn
Which brings about the questions: Why did Dr. Webber not testify? Did he change his mind about Terri? Precisely. When it came time to put up or shut up, he chose the latter. The appellate court fully expected him to testify and was somewhat mystified as to his absence.
From the 2002 appellate court ruling
On remand, this court anticipated but did not require that Dr. Webber, whohad claimed in his affidavit that he might be able to restore Mrs. Schiavo's speech andsome of her cognitive functioning, would testify for the parents and provide scientific ..support for his claim. However, Dr. Webber, who was so critical in this court's decisionto remand the case, made no further appearance in these proceedings.
To: Calpernia
So are you saying Dr. Webber did examine Terri Schiavo?No.
I'm stating the facts. The Marlins won in 2003, although the Yankees won in 2000.
I'm saying Dr Webber was given a chance in 2002 to join the Schindlers' team of doctors, but he passed the opportunity.
Since he had written such a scathing affidavit complaining about not having the opportunity in 2001, why did Dr.Webber not join the team of doctors allowed to examine Terri in 2002?
Did Dr Webber have a change of heart?
I don't know, and I would like to find out.
To: george wythe
No. Actually we are right back to my original Dr. Webber post.
The court denied Dr. Webber the petition for examination.
So how could he testify on her behalf if he wasn't allowed to examine her?
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posted on
10/27/2003 12:49:49 PM PST
by
Calpernia
(Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
To: Calpernia
So how could he testify on her behalf if he wasn't allowed to examine her? He was "denied" in 2001, not 2002.
The Yankees won in 2000, not 2003.
Do you need a picture or a flow chart?
To: george wythe
Ok. The motion for denial is here:
The trial court summarily denied the petition for examination and 1.540(b)(5)motion. 800 So.2d at 643
Where is the motion approving him to examine Terri?
418
posted on
10/27/2003 1:09:24 PM PST
by
Calpernia
(Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
To: Xenalyte
"Well? Several of us have asked you to explain how it is that if she's PVS and therefore not suffering, it's torture to keep her alive. Having a problem reconciling the contradiction, are you?"
Any more than any of you from the god squad can explain how it is good that she remains an end table, but bad that she be allowed to die.You offer no evidence that she isn't suffering, only the stupid argument that it is "what god wants"and "where there is life, there is hope" and endless streams of anecdotes and catch-phrases like that.
Your own contradiction is glaring to say the least.
419
posted on
10/27/2003 1:09:26 PM PST
by
Gringo1
(Some days you are the pidgeon....and other days the statue.)
To: Gringo1
Once again your lack of comprehension does not disappoint.
My position contradicts nothing but yours. Kindly tell me how it's self-contradictory, which is what I guess you meant when you wrote, "Your own contradiction is glaring to say the least."
I believe that God is in charge. I further believe that even if He isn't, Terri left nothing in writing - all we have is the highly suspect word of her husband that her wish is to die.
So tell us how she can be suffering now, while being nourished, but how she won't suffer once she starts starving.
I shall await your reply anxiously.
420
posted on
10/27/2003 1:16:35 PM PST
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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