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Judge in Life or Death Case Considered Conservative, Compassionate (Terri Schiavo Case)
AP | 10/25/03 | Vickie Chachere

Posted on 10/25/2003 9:46:41 AM PDT by kattracks

PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (AP) - Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer has been called a murderer and equated with the Roman governor who condemned Jesus to death. He has been vilified in Internet chat rooms and has received death threats by e-mail.

Greer is the judge who granted Terri Schiavo's husband permission to remove her feeding tube in one of the longest and most contentious right-to-life battles. His decision was second-guessed and essentially overridden by the Florida Legislature and Gov. Jeb Bush last week.

Following judicial code of conduct, Greer has been silent about the public debate over the Schiavo case and the criticism he has faced. He declined a request for an interview.

But those who know the 61-year-old probate judge say he is a prudent jurist who probably agonized over his decisions.

"He is such a good and decent man and to have this kind of rap being put on him right now is so unfair," said Mary Repper, a political strategist who has helped Greer's campaigns. "If ever this was to be put into the hands of someone who is going to be fair and do the right thing, George was the right person."

Through four years of hearings and legal wrangling, Greer considered Michael Schiavo's request to remove his severely brain-damaged wife's feeding tube against the wishes of her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler.

A heart attack in 1990 left Terri Schiavo, now 39, in a persistently vegetative state and court-appointed doctors believe there is no hope of recovery. Greer ruled Michael Schiavo showed "clear and convincing" evidence his wife did not want to be kept alive artificially and permitted him to end her nourishment.

The extraordinary reversal of his ruling by Bush and the Legislature will now become the central issue in a new legal fight over the separation of powers that will be waged to overturn what's now known as "Terri's Law."

While Greer has become a key figure in the international news event, few outside of Pinellas County know the man who friends describe as conservative, religious and particularly sensitive to protecting the disabled.

Greer is legally blind and cannot drive. While his condition doesn't hamper his abilities on the bench, colleagues and others said in interviews last week it gives him a perspective in dealing with the rights of the impaired few jurists have.

"He is so conscientious anyway, you put a case involving human life in front of him and it makes him even more careful," said Ed Armstrong, a Clearwater attorney who describes Greer as his mentor. "It's been an ordeal for him too."

Greer is a member of a conservative Baptist church which recently advocated keeping Terri Schiavo alive in a church newsletter. A moderate Republican, Greer served on the Pinellas County Commission for eight years before running unopposed for a circuit judgeship in 1992.

Repper and former Pinellas County Commissioner Charles Rainey said the fact that no one opposed the quiet, studious Greer speaks volumes for how well he is regarded in Pinellas County.

"He's doing what the law says to do. I am sure he struggles with himself, knowing George," Rainey said. "The man did everything he was asked to do as far as checking out the case, checking out the medical situation and he did it two or three times."

Greer is known for answering his own telephone in chambers and until recently being easily accessible to the press, characteristics that his friends say are holdovers from his days of being an elected official.

Born in Brooklyn, N.Y., Greer graduated from Clearwater High School. He graduated from the University of Florida law school and was a successful zoning attorney in Clearwater when he was elected to the county commission in 1984. He been a judge since 1992 and is up for re-election next year.

Michael Schiavo first asked the probate court for permission to disconnect his wife's feeding tube in 1998, saying his wife had told him that she never wanted to be kept alive artificially. Her parents disagree. Two other judges handled the case before it was passed to Greer.

Greer turned down repeated requests from the Schindlers to order therapy for their daughter or to dismiss Michael Schiavo as her guardian. Just this week, Greer set a hearing in November, nearly a year after the Schindlers' last motion for a new guardian, to discuss that issue.

The Schindlers' attorneys attempted to have Greer removed from the case in recent weeks, saying he had improperly discussed the case with others. An appeals court decided Greer would stay.

The Schiavo case is not the only time Greer has been faced with the issue of removing a feeding tube from a vegetative patient. In 2000, the wife and grown children of St. Petersburg attorney Blair Clark faced off in Greer's courtroom after Clark collapsed from a heart attack.

Clark had a living will which said he did not want a feeding tube or respirator if he was determined to be in a permanent vegetative state. But his Chinese-born wife - who disputed her husband was vegetative and believed he could hear her - wanted to try acupuncture and medical techniques from her homeland.

Greer allowed an acupuncturist to administer a treatment session, and then granted Clark's children permission to withdraw their father's feeding tube. Clark's wife did not appeal the decision.

Clark died within days of the tube's removal.

"He was sympathetic and empathetic to the fact that we had somebody who in her culture believed in these alternative methods," said Doug Williamson, who represented the Clark children.

William Mayhew, who represented Clark's wife Ping, said he too believes Greer simply followed the law.

"Many judges would have figured out a way to dump (the Schiavo) case," said Pinellas County Sheriff Everett Rice, Greer's friend for more than 20 years. "But he stuck by it. He deserves a medal for enduring that alone."



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To: kattracks; Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; ...
Since for whatever reason, the last place this was posted is in the religion forum, which is as much of a black hole as chat, I am also posting it here and would like to get it posted on several of the Terri threads. Can anybody help me out with this?

PLEASE READ!!

This is a letter written by Terri's friend Kathy to the St. Petersburg times. I have been in contact with Kathy and she confirmed that she did write the letter, and several others, but that the paper chose NOT to publish it. I have encouraged Kathy and her friend Dee to join us here at FR and I will send them the link to this thread and others about Terri, so please post your personal messages to Kathy as well. She lives in the area and has been trying get someone to listen to her for a long time. I assured her that she, and Terri, have many friends here and also that we have a huge readership so it would at least be seen and circulated by a lot of people.

Dear Mr. Levesque,

I am sure that you wrote your article on Theresa Marie Schindler Schiavo in what you believed was the truth. However, I can stay quiet no longer.

It is a proven fact that Mr. Schiavo had at least one affair and fathered an illegitimate child while still married to Terri before she was injured,

He is paying child support. Since her injuries, it is also a proven fact that he has been with numerous women one with whom he now has one child with another on the way.

No one has investigated nor seems to even care that the night that this happened to Terri they had had a huge fight. She had confided to family members and friends that he had become abusive and controlling. She was advised not to go home that night but to spend the night with a girlfriend but she went home. Hours later he called Bob Schindler saying Terri was on the floor hurt. He did not call 911 first.

There are medical records that sustain the fact that Terri suffered multiple broken bones that night and came to the hospital with a rigid neck. I have all that info if you are interested and would be happy to send to you.

To say that Mr. Schiavo loves Terri is nonsense.

He lost the ability to say "my wife" with any credence a very long time ago.

I wish that just one person would print the truth about this guy. I truly believe that the only reason he wants her dead so much is because he never wants her to come out of this and point the finger at him for battering her almost to death. He wants to finish what he started that night.

You probably won't investigate any of this. No one seems to care what happened to Terri but at least I know I have tried.

Sincerely, Kathleen (last name deleted)

St. Petersburg, Fl.

Terri's Army ping! If you want to be on or off this list, please let me know.

161 posted on 10/26/2003 11:39:16 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Theodore R.
Bulletin: Eleanor Clift calls for Terri's death!!!

Why does this not surprise me. She's the same woman who defended clinton for 8 years no matter what he did. He could've committed murder in broad daylight on the white house lawn, and she would've defended him.

162 posted on 10/26/2003 11:45:57 AM PST by incindiary
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
They didn't mention the bit about Greer's wife being on the board of Felos' hospice, I note.
You have got to be kidding!

Wow! The judge's wife is on the board of the hospice run by the lawyer who is trying to have one of the residents starved to death at the request of her husband has two children by his new girl friend...

Is it just me or does this sound like a made-for-TV movie?



Now why isn't the media reporting on crap like this...Looks like WorldnetDailey is fighting for Terri...I am requesting a freeper who knows how to do this stuff forward these kind of facts to them and all other media outlets....I am dumb at pc can barley turn on and off but am praying and talking to people ..trying to help terri in any way I can
163 posted on 10/26/2003 11:46:51 AM PST by fiesti
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To: incindiary
No, it is not a surprise, but one could sense the active hatred that she had for poor Terri and the Schindler family. Though she attacks her opponents for lacking "compassion," this woman is the ultimately in stone-heartedness. I wonder if it were she in Terri's bed if she would feel the same way. I am sure that she would say she would.
164 posted on 10/26/2003 11:47:52 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: kattracks
Greer obviously did not have all the facts, just the facts that the husband wanted him to have.

He was wrong in his ruling.
165 posted on 10/26/2003 11:50:54 AM PST by Dustbunny
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To: Dustbunny
This may have been raised in the discussion already, but the Mary Repper referenced in the article is a long-time d-e-m-o-c-r-a-t. For additional info on her "consulting," visit www.repper.com (Again, if somebody has already pointed this out, my apologies.)
166 posted on 10/26/2003 11:56:39 AM PST by G-dzilla
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To: sweetliberty
Will Kathy be posting of FR?

How will she answer questions?
167 posted on 10/26/2003 11:58:05 AM PST by TaxRelief (Welcome to the only website dedicated to the preservation of a free republic.)
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To: G-dzilla
Another observation: the spin in the last couple of days from the dominant media (national and local) after the "defeat" (their term, not mine) in the legislature has been mind-boggling.
168 posted on 10/26/2003 12:00:15 PM PST by G-dzilla
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To: Pegita
AMEN
169 posted on 10/26/2003 12:01:48 PM PST by fiesti
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To: fiesti
They didn't mention the bit about Greer's wife being on the board of Felos' hospice, I note.
You have got to be kidding!

Wow! The judge's wife is on the board of the hospice run by the lawyer who is trying to have one of the residents starved to death at the request of her husband has two children by his new girl friend...

Is this really true? Last night there was considerable discussion on one of the Terri threads as to whether this is true. If it is true, Mrs. George W. Greer must be using a maiden name. There is no "Greer" on the hospice board list.
170 posted on 10/26/2003 12:03:06 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: sweetliberty
Did I read this right!?!

Does MS have THREE illegitamate kids,
One who was fathered by an affair BEFORE Terri's collapse?

OK, add this to the list of questions to ask him on LK.
171 posted on 10/26/2003 12:09:22 PM PST by najida (He who is without baggage can cast the first Samsonite.)
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To: sweetliberty
Since you are in contact with Kathy, can you tell her to contact Greta with this letter, her name and the names of her friends? Would she/they be willing to go on television to be interviewed? It is so important to counteract Michael's PR blitz.

Have her contact Greta!

ontherecord@foxnews.com
172 posted on 10/26/2003 12:09:45 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: sweetliberty
Has anyone started the facts and documents thread yet?

We desperately need it for easy reference. We much have over 10,000 accumulated Terri posts by now.
173 posted on 10/26/2003 12:11:44 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
much=must
174 posted on 10/26/2003 12:12:07 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: sweetliberty
Get this girl out in the media to tell her story !!!!!!!!!!
175 posted on 10/26/2003 12:17:22 PM PST by fiesti
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
The info thread is here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1008215/posts
176 posted on 10/26/2003 1:06:06 PM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: sweetliberty
Did she ever file an affidavit with the court stating this? I am sure if she did they would have just ignored it as they have done with everything else.

MCD
177 posted on 10/26/2003 1:22:49 PM PST by MSCASEY
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To: TaxRelief
I have encouraged her to join us and I sent her quite a few of the links to the Terri threads. I hope she will. I am only in contact with her as of today myself. What I can do in the meantime is forward to her the email addresses of any FReepers who wish to have her contact them. That's about all I can do at this point. My impression is that she is very involved in trying to help Terri too.
178 posted on 10/26/2003 1:25:34 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Based on the last email I got, she is in touch with Greta...at some level. It was mostly about Baden actually telling the truth though. I know she has Greta's email because it was in one of her replies to me.
179 posted on 10/26/2003 1:28:01 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
We have WAY more than 10,000 posts. Yes, we really do need a thread documenting just the facts. I just can't do it right now. I don't have the time before I have to go back to work.
180 posted on 10/26/2003 1:31:04 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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