Bush Issues Ramadan Statement

VOA News ^ | October 25, 2003

[sarcasm]

The White House has issued President Bush's annual greeting to Muslims around the world who will observe the holy month of Ramadan.

In his message, President Bush says Islam is a peaceful religion that has helped shape the character of the United States, and has made great contributions to the world.

Mr. Bush said Americans cherish the freedom to worship and, he said, "we remain committed to welcoming individuals of all religions."

During Ramadan, President Bush said Muslims fast, pray, contemplate and renew their commitment to lead lives of honesty, integrity and compassion.

[Kozak]

Damn, you are dim. I NEVER said they SHOULDN"T SERVE.
I said I WISHED MORE HAD SHOWN a desire to show some PATRIOTISM. Like the Japanese Americans in WW2. LIke Americans from eastern Europe during the cold war. You are the dolt who insisted on making it a personal attack, with the hoods, and the clan, and questioning my military service etc.

[hollywood]

"Oops, they did consider that very important and expressly forbade the government from defining religion."

Thanks for your time and input, CWOJackson. I appreciate it. I feel so much more at ease now to start up a new Church of the KKK, with David Duke and Adolph Hitler as my 'gods'. Can't wait for that tax-exempt status and the yearly greeting from the sitting President.

Oops, almost forgot my (/sarcasm) thingy.

[null and void]

Everything I needed to know about islam, I learned when a an American born møøselimb co-worker objected to me putting a US Flag in my cubicle. On 9/12/01!

[CWOJackson]

"By the way Muslims are underrepresented in the US Armed Forces. Given a population of 291 million, with est 6 million Muslims, and a military of 1.5 million, Muslims are 0.85% of the Armed forces and 2.1% of the US population. 9/11 doesn't exactly have inspired a call to arms in defence of the United States, eh?"

Of course you didn't say they shouldn't serve, you simply implied that they are less then patriotic because they don't serve in numbers you believe they should.

[tet68]

442nd Regimental Combat Team, served with distinction in Europe.

[Kozak]

Thats fine. The problem is getting the enemy to believe the propaganda, without conning ourselves. If I really believed that the administration was just blowing smoke at them I could live with it. I'm afraid that too many of our countrymen who don't get informed are believing the spin.

[CWOJackson]

Don't worry about the sarcarm thingy...the truth was already exposed enough.

[wimpycat]

You need a history lesson:

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/May2000/n05252000_20005251.html

[CWOJackson]

Yes, absolutely no white Christian American's opposed to people displaying the flag...sure.

[null and void]

Nope. Very highly decorated.

At the end of the war a general wanted his units to parade past for review. After the 442nd passed he turned to an aide and snapped "dammit I ordered all of the 442nd to parade." His aide responded with "That was all of them, sir."

All the survivors...

[Publius6961]

In his message, President Bush says Islam is a peaceful religion that has helped shape the character of the United States, and has made great contributions to the world.

For whatever it's worth, in this case the president does not speak for me!

I have never expected any president to hold positions with all of which I expected to agree .
But this is a biggie.

I do not agree with any part of it or all of it.
In fact, I wish I could find a petition somewhere where the tens of millions of us who feel this way can assert our position.

[CWOJackson]

800 of them died fighting their way in to save 200 Texans...they didn't have to do it. They could have withdrawn at any time and no one would have said anything.

And they were treated no better then some people on this thread would treat Muslim American's in uniform today.

[CWOJackson]

Go For Broke...thanks.

[null and void]

Yes, absolutely no white Christian American's opposed to people displaying the flag...sure.

None I've ever met, let alone while the rubble was burning.

BTW the 442nd wasn't sent to the Pacific Theater, was it?

Bonus points if you can identify two reasons why...

[Kozak]

Never took logic eh?
You stated their great patriotism and kept emphasizing their number in the military. I did a little math and showed a little problem with your argument. It's not the number "I feel", but statistics would suggest that the muslim population in America is not the great group of patriots you would suggest.

[Gritty]

You're missing a big difference here...not all Muslims are Islamic Fundlementalists, just like all Christians are Methodists.

No, I think you're missing the big difference here.

The Muslim religion claims the world for Allah, and the use of the sword as the ultimate enforcement of that conversion. Ones who adhere to the tenets of that faith (the fundamentalists) will gladly adhere to that bloody command. Religion, Law and the State are inseparable according to their scripture.

The Christian religion admits the world will never all accept Christ (until the Last Judgment) and holds to the spreading of Christianity by the force of the Word of God, not the sword of man - which is ineffective in changing the heart. One is not to take the sword and enforce conversion to the faith. Religion, Law and the State are separate entities, recognized as such by Scripture.

[CWOJackson]

This only demonstrates how flawed your own logic is...there are 13,000 of them in uniform.

13,000 are serving.

Those 13,000 deserve the same level of respect as any other service person, no less...including respecting their Constitutional right to freedom of religion.

[CWOJackson]

You're still missing the point. Every Muslim is NOT an Islamic Fundlementalist...far from it. No more then every Catholic being a bomb throwing terrorist.