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Buchanan: A Christian warrior under fire
Washington Times ^
| 10-24-03
Posted on 10/24/2003 5:30:28 PM PDT by Brian S
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:09:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Lt. Gen. William G. "Jerry" Boykin, the former Delta Force commander, seems to be exactly the kind of warrior America needs to lead us in battle against the kind of fanatics we face.
The general is an evangelical Christian, and from his deep Christian beliefs he derives his convictions about the character of the war we are in, and his courage to fight it.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; patrickjbuchanan; williamboykin
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posted on
10/24/2003 5:30:28 PM PDT
by
Brian S
To: Brian S
SPOTREP
To: Brian S
This was actually a good article by Buchanan.
But in order to be consistent with his earlier statement(s) that "Islam is a peaceful religion", President Bush has to publically say stuff like "[Boykin] didn't reflect my opinion."
I think General Boykin will eventually be cleared of any wrongdoing.
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posted on
10/24/2003 5:37:59 PM PDT
by
k2blader
(Haruspex, beware.)
To: Brian S
Thanks Brian. Nobody lays it out like Pat Buchanan. Tony Blakely wrote an op-ed piece on behalf of the General yesterday. The only question to be answered is whether this man is fit to serve America. If he is not, then let's turn the lights out at Free Republic,admit there is nothing left to conserve and request God's forgiveness.
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posted on
10/24/2003 5:48:11 PM PDT
by
okiedog
To: k2blader
Boykin has, in fact, beaten them to the punch. He requested an Inspector Generals Review. This will take the air out of the attack dogs sails and leave this fine man to continue to hit the terrorists vigorously and further demonstrate the truth of his statement.
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posted on
10/24/2003 6:03:47 PM PDT
by
Adrastus
To: k2blader
I think General Boykin will eventually be cleared of any wrongdoing.
Oh for sure he will not be fired. But like General Patton, he will probably be reassigned to some new billet writing the history of Mogadishu-- the lesson being that freedom for professing Christians means you can profess, or you can serve, but you can't profess and serve.
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posted on
10/24/2003 6:10:26 PM PDT
by
okiedog
To: Brian S
Wanna see people go ape? Raise the Word in a televised news conference. While not only cutting to the quick, we'd find it much easier to identify internal enemies.
Under God!
To: Brian S
I wonder if the Budda folks produced some ancient document where they were invested with ownership of Iraq and took it over under UN sponsorship, would they hate our being there because of our religion? Likewise with Palestine. Maybe the problem is not the religion of those in control.
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posted on
10/24/2003 6:18:37 PM PDT
by
ex-snook
(Americans needs PROTECTIONISM - military and economic.)
To: okiedog
Ever notice, how pushed out of shape people get, when they here the TRUTH?
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posted on
10/24/2003 6:19:42 PM PDT
by
blaze
(Welcome to the Hotel Mexifornia)
To: blaze
HEAR The truth....sorry my bad!!!!
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posted on
10/24/2003 6:20:44 PM PDT
by
blaze
(Welcome to the Hotel Mexifornia)
Comment #11 Removed by Moderator
To: okiedog
When you speak in public in the uniform, your statements had better be 100% in line with declarative policy.
I knew that as a young Marine enlisted man.
Rather saddening to see a general officer not get that point.
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posted on
10/24/2003 6:23:07 PM PDT
by
Poohbah
("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
To: Poohbah
When you speak in public in the uniform, your statements had better be 100% in line with declarative policy. Well, with regard to generals, I think that fallacy has been effectively debunked here.
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posted on
10/24/2003 6:29:12 PM PDT
by
k2blader
(Haruspex, beware.)
To: Adrastus
I really hate to be too critical of our most high poobahs in Washington, but I would like to know what gives them the authority to investigate a gentleman for what he said in a church meeting? Are we so far down the road to an authoritarian state that a man cannot express his opinions in the sanctity of a church? Is this the freedom that the rest of the world is so envious of according to the latest propaganda?
It sounds to me like an event that could have happened in the early stages of the Third Reich or the Bolshevik Revolution. When they start persecuting you for your religious beliefs, you are not far from the gulags and indoctrination camps. We should be howling like a group of banshees over this.
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posted on
10/24/2003 6:35:45 PM PDT
by
meenie
To: meenie
Are we so far down the road to an authoritarian state that a man cannot express his opinions in the sanctity of a church?If he's doing it in the uniform of his country, and those opinions do not accord with declarative national policy, yes.
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posted on
10/24/2003 6:49:51 PM PDT
by
Poohbah
("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
To: Poohbah
When you speak in public in the uniform, your statements had better be 100% in line with declarative policy. We are in agreement on this one.
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posted on
10/24/2003 6:54:34 PM PDT
by
Brian S
("Mount up everybody and ride to the sound of the gun!")
To: Poohbah
You are correct and Buchanan knows this. Like the press, he's just using this as yet another excuse to attack the President.
To: Poohbah
When you speak in public in the uniform, your statements had better be 100% in line with declarative policy ?
I knew that as a young Marine enlisted man.
Rather saddening to see a general officer not get that point.
What in the hell is the Orwellian phrase "declarative policy" ? I too was in the Marine Corps. General Brandtner went to daily Mass in uniform all the time. Naval chaplains were in the field with Marines all the time. None of these guys were running for the tall grass to hide their hope and faith in God as they served their country. When declarative policy in America means you can serve your country but not serve God or even speak your mind in a Church that invited you to speak, then just what in sam's hell are you serving ? Honor ? Duty ? Country ? What an honor! What a duty! What a country! No offense to you personally, devil dog, but in Buchanan's phrase , To hell with Empire! We need to take America back. cheers
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posted on
10/24/2003 7:05:03 PM PDT
by
okiedog
To: okiedog
What in the hell is the Orwellian phrase "declarative policy" ?Sometimes, nations will say ("declare") that their policy is A while it is in reality B. It doesn't happen often, but it's enough of a worry that I use the phrase. (The US publicly declared policy of riding out a nuclear attack before retaliation and the actual policy of firing before detonation of the first incoming warhead is an example).
I too was in the Marine Corps. General Brandtner went to daily Mass in uniform all the time. Naval chaplains were in the field with Marines all the time. None of these guys were running for the tall grass to hide their hope and faith in God as they served their country.
Did they announce that America is in a holy war against Islam?
When declarative policy in America means you can serve your country but not serve God or even speak your mind in a Church that invited you to speak, then just what in sam's hell are you serving ?
Okay, so if Boykin had rattled off, in uniform, the standard ANSWER garbage about how this is a war for oil, then he'd be perfectly OK, right?
If you cannot serve without verbally undercutting the policy you are charged with carrying out, then you need to resign.
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posted on
10/24/2003 7:10:56 PM PDT
by
Poohbah
("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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