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Senate panel approves bill on illegals
Washington Times ^ | 10/24/03 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 10/23/2003 10:02:39 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:09:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The Senate Judiciary Committee passed a bill yesterday allowing illegal immigrant students to gain legal status and to pay in-state tuition rates at state colleges and universities.

But lawmakers removed provisions that would have allowed immediate permanent residence for those age 30 or younger who had already completed the requirements.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: education; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; instatetuition

1 posted on 10/23/2003 10:02:39 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
You know what to do. Enough of you DID NOT participate in the Counter Illegal Aliens Freedom ride, so the #$%^&^s have been emboldened and will now take it a step further. In case you havn't figured it out, once they get an education we'll now have afirmative action to benefit them. In other words, they'll be coming for your job too!

Here's the numbers:

Toll Free House and Senate: 1-800-648-3516

Whitehouse: 202-456-2461

Whitehouse comment line: 202-456-6213

2 posted on 10/23/2003 10:08:12 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: madfly; HiJinx
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3 posted on 10/23/2003 10:20:29 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
How much of this seeming nonsense do you suppose has to do with getting numbers to enlist in the military?
4 posted on 10/23/2003 10:29:04 PM PDT by AuntB (Your rights stop where my nose starts!)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Posted and pinged...
5 posted on 10/23/2003 10:34:48 PM PDT by HiJinx (Go with courage, go with honor, go in God's good Grace. Come home when it's time. We'll be here.)
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To: kattracks
We allowed the illegals to stay here too long. We allowed them to put down roots, and now we are seeing the consequences of years of government inaction.

This is so wrong that it makes me ill, but it is the result of our country's open border policy -- Not just our politicians, but our own citizens. They would not have come here -- and stayed -- if communities and corporations did not welcome them. We hear of cases across the country where our own local law enforcement refuses to deport any illegals they happen upon. And they are not allowed by many government officials to target illegals (NY, for example).

This is not the fault of any one administration -- the fault lies with our society as a whole, that has accepted illegals for too many years.

6 posted on 10/23/2003 11:03:14 PM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
"I seriously think some people here today have forgotten the original intent of the Dream Act," said Sen. Charles E. Grassley, Iowa Republican. "I was sold on this bill for one reason: education, education, education. I feel somewhat cheated by the overreach of the legislation."

Senator Grassley,

How do you think TAXPAYING AMERICANS feel about you supporting a DREAM of people who are criminals in our justice system?

If you Senators don't want our support, then just continue to support illegal aliens and our votes will vanish! That's a promise, Sir.

Where in the hell do you think this parasite is going to get respect for the United States from? A comic book? That's what our REPUBLICAN WHITE HOUSE , CONGRESS and SENATE look like to these people.

You give our HARD EARNED MONEY to a person who snuck across our borders in the middle of the night. A person who initially paid no taxes but sure had both hands out for our medical care, our housing, our welfare. A person who defies you to enforce the law.

Respect for the law? Ha, ha, ha, ha. Evade the Border Patrol and you're home free! Every ILLEGAL ALIEN in the US loves it here because you REWARD them for committing criminal acts!

Are you drunk when you vote? You must be because I'll bet your great grandfather would take you behind the house and whip your butt if he were alive today.

You need to start thinking about the damage you are doing to our country by voting this way. Reread your Oath of Office and the Constitution before you cast another vote!

Regretfully,

XXXXX XXXXX

7 posted on 10/23/2003 11:20:12 PM PDT by B4Ranch (“In certain drastic circumstances, profanity offers relief denied by prayer".....Mark Twain)
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
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8 posted on 10/23/2003 11:20:45 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: bjcintennessee
This is so wrong that it makes me ill, but it is the result of our country's open border policy -- Not just our politicians, but our own citizens.

Never mind that the VAST majority of Americans have CONSISTENTLY said that they are against illegal immigration in every poll ever taken on the subject.

This is not the fault of any one administration --

I get it now. If this bill manages to reach Bush's desk and he signs it's not his fault. It's OUR FAULT! It's our fault because we elected him even though we don't what illegal immigration or seek to encourage it. Do I have you right? No wait you indicated that most Americans want open borders yet somehow this does not correspond to what they say to pollsters. This is getting confusing.

In any event according to you the buck on this somehow never reaches Bush's desk even though he is president and in charge of protecting our borders. Indeed, it's still laying on some past administration's desk and, of course, everyone does it. Where have I heard that before?

Anyway it's our fault for voting for these Open Border politicians to begin with. So, let's let them off the hook and beat ourselves up for electing them because even though we don't want/want illegal immigrantion we keep on electing those who do.

Oh and remember to Vote for Bush! It's not his fault he does what he does, It's ours! What a great campaign slogan.

9 posted on 10/23/2003 11:42:57 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: WRhine
No wait you indicated that most Americans want open borders yet somehow this does not correspond to what they say to pollsters. This is getting confusing.

To help clear your confusion, my premise was that our government allowed open borders for years, and too many of our citizens encouraged this by hiring them. Do you think they would have continued to come here if no one gave them jobs? So yeah, to a great extent, we have been complicate in helping to establish them here.

You didn't hire them. I didn't hire them, but someone did -- and this should have been stopped long ago. Take all the polls you want -- my vote would be to stop them before they ever crossed over, or send them back immediately once they did. But that didn't happen. They went to our schools and no one stopped them. They got married, had more babies, and no one stopped them.

They didn't ask me. They obviously didn't ask you. But no one stopped them.

As for this latest outrageous legislation, I sent protest e-mails to our legislation through FAIR, but apparently my voice joined with thousands of others wasn't loud enough.

My initial post was simply pointing out that we were silent for too long. These students were allowed to stay here too long, and now they have gained a voice in our policies.

Close our borders now, and hopefully we won't have to address this same issue again in the future.

My Preview is still not working, so I'll again take my chances and post.

10 posted on 10/24/2003 12:16:11 AM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: kattracks; ETERNAL WARMING; AuntB; Jeff Head; farmfriend; madfly; editor-surveyor; sauropod; ...
    Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, said Congress should not retreat on that law.

    "This is a significant involvement in immigration law. It's a statement that we give up on existing law," Mr. Sessions said. "All we've done is further weaken the morality and integrity of the system."

    The bill passed 16-3, with opposition coming from Republican Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Saxby Chambliss of Georgia and Mr. Sessions.

    Nobody has a reliable estimate of how many students would be affected by the bill or how much it would cost taxpayers.

    Sen. Jon Kyl, Arizona Republican, said it was critical to make sure illegal immigrants weren't receiving more benefits than legal immigrants under the bill.
Toll Free House and Senate: 1-800-648-3516
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Guys, These people have no idea of what this monstrosity will cost, but they are ready to give illegal AND legal aliens benefits unavailable to citizens of the U.S. of A. across state lines!!!!!!!!!!!! Orwell would be PROUD!! Peace and love, George.
11 posted on 10/24/2003 5:08:54 AM PDT by George Frm Br00klyn Park (FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!)
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To: George Frm Br00klyn Park
This bill is an outrage! Why should criminals enjoy benefits denied to us and at our expense. Only three reasons why oneone would support it: they are anti-America, they are mentally ill, or they are bought off or blackmailed.
12 posted on 10/24/2003 7:33:38 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3
bump
13 posted on 10/30/2003 6:31:31 PM PST by veryone
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