Posted on 10/23/2003 5:58:54 PM PDT by First_Salute
I'd want testimony in court, along with other witnesses, documentation and evidence before I could give any credibility to witness based on an affidavit.
What a nasty mouth you have.
But I'm not a sheeple.
What is the motive for three nurses to offer this kind of sworn statement? They have nothing to gain.
That'd come in testimony, wouldn't it?
According to Vernon Jordan, all Clinton ever talked about was sex and the women who wanted him.
But that's neither here nor there. My point is, never discount anything too quickly. This story has so many questions -- like why didn't Michael Schiavo divorce Terri when his mistress became pregnant the first time -- that the legitimacy of an affidavit such as this one wouldn't surprise me.
Then again, I lived through the Clinton presidency. Nothing surprises me.
First, a patient's chart is a legal and medical document, and it is sacred. If the procedures and notes in that chart are altered then the institution, physicans, and nurses are a party to felony fraud, and malpractice. In short, they are all ruined....PERIOD. So, if this happened somebody is in deep S#iT.
Secondly, if the husband was able to shake this kind of fist over the medical professionals in this outfit, then something is terribly wrong. You don't call the treatment, and care of a patient if you are not a medical professional. It's illegal, and it's immoral. The laws of the Florida Medical Board would not permit this. If it didn't know, then the liability is on the institution, and a criminal charges could be slamed on the institution, the Doctors/Nurses and the administration of the institution, as well as the husband himself.
Most importantly, if this woman is truly alive and not wishing to die then she must live. I took an oath not to help death, but to work for life.....First, I will do no harm! Being a party to a woman's death that was alive, I would be doing harm....I would be commiting murder. That is not only out of the oath of ethics, it is criminal.
In a situation where a patient is comatose, and brain dead (many tests to prove this, and many decisions made) I will advise that life supports be terminated, but it must be clear to me that the patient is 'brain dead'. Then and only then can I justify stopping live support. Believe me, I've had to do it before, I've had to do it to my own mother.
From what I have read on this case the patient shows all signs of brain activity and, while in a 'bed ridden' state, and even a diminished capacity state, is far from a comatose, vegitated, and brain dead state. The state should appoint an intrum guardian and start an investigation in this patient's case. This husband sounds a little anxious to have his wife die. If that happened to a patient of mine, I would have the husband banned from visitation and inform the police. Too many questions unanswered here, too much emotion, not enough medical science, not enough thinking. Time to calm down and investigate....logically!
Agreed.
You're serious right? Even been to some of these places?
We simply look at the facts as best we can and make judgements. My judgement is that a court ordering the starvation of a woman at the behest of a husband who has a new paramour with one bambino on base and one on deck is a travesty of justice.
Two of 5 specialists testified at the trial that Terri could be rehabilitated somewhat. Her wishes as regards feeding tubes is unclear. Three nurses who took care of the patient filed affidavits supporting the parents claims.
I'm not big into conspiracies. The facts are as I described them and while a criminal conviction requires evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, the starvation of a disabled woman seems merely to require dubious testimony from an estranged husband and 3 out 5 expert witnesses.
Something very wrong there Counselor.
LOL.
AFFIDAVIT
_________ BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CAROLYN JOHNSON who being first duly sworn deposes and says:
1. My name is Carolyn Johnson, I am over the age of 18 years and make this statement on personal information.
2. I used to work at Sabal Palms nursing home in Largo, for a period of about two years. I actually was employed by a nursing agency and was placed at Sabal Palms as a Certified Nursing Assistant (CNA). I believe the events related here occurred in about 1993.
3. During this assignment I took care of Terri Schiavo several times. The first time I saw her my duties were being explained to me by the nurse on duty. Terri Schiavo was lying in bed. Another patient, also a young woman about the same age and in the same condition, was sitting up in a chair, with a drink cup and straw in front of her.
4. I asked why Terri was not up in a chair, too. I learned, as part of my training, that there was a family dispute and that the husband, as guardian, wanted no rehabilitation for Terri. This surprised me, as I
Page 1 of 3
did not think a guardian could go against a doctor's orders like that, but I was assured that a guardian could and that this guardian had gone against Terri's doctor's orders.
5. No one was allowed to just go in and see Terri. Michael had a visitors list. We all knew that we would lose our jobs if we did not do exactly what Michael said to do.
6. I remember seeing Michael Schiavo only once the entire time I worked at Sabal Palms, but we were all aware that Terri was not to be given any kind of rehabilitative help, per his instructions. Once, I wanted to put a cloth in Terri's hand to keep her hand from closing in on itself, but I was not permitted to do this, as Michael Schiavo considered that to be a form of rehabilitation.
7. This entire experience made me look hard at nursing homes. After about two years, I quit this job, because I was so disillusioned with the way Terri was treated. Someone somewhere along the way should have reported this.
FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.
Page 2 of 3
Carolyn Johnson, Affiant
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 28 day of August, 2003, by Carolyn Johnson who produced a Florida drivers license as identification.
Notary Public
My commission expires
-------- Found here
Admin guy, please delete the post above with Carla Sauers address. Thanks.
AFFIDAVIT
_________
STATE OF FLORIDA )
COUNTY OF PINELLAS )
BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CAROLYN
JOHNSON, who being first duly sworn, deposes and says:
1. My name is Carolyn Johnson. I am over the age of 18 years and make
this statement of my own personal information.
2. I used to work at Sabal Palms nursing home in Largo, for a period of
about two years. I actually was employed by a nursing agency and
was placed at Sabal Palms as a Certified Nursing Assistant (CNA). I
believe the events related here occurred in about 1993.
3. During this assignment I took care of Terri Schiavo several times. The
first time I saw her, my duties were being explained to me by the nurse
on duty. Terri Schiavo was lying in bed. Another patient, also a
young woman about the same age and in the same condition, was
sitting up in a chair, with a drink cup and straw in front of her.
4. I asked why Terri was not up in a chair, too. I learned, as part of my
training, that there was a family dispute and that the husband, as
guardian, wanted no rehabilitation for Terri. This surprised me, as I.
- Page 1 of 3 -
did not think a guardian could go against a doctor's orders like that,
but I was assured that a guardian could and that this guardian had gone
against Terri's doctor's orders.
5. No one was allowed to just go in and see Terri. Michael had a visitors
list. We all knew that we would lose our jobs if we did not do exactly
what Michael said to do,
6. I remember seeing Michael Schiavo only once the entire time I worked
at Sabal Palms, but we were all aware that Terri was not to be given
any kind of rehabilitative help, per his instructions. Once, I wanted to
put a cloth in Terri's hand to keep her hand from closing in on itself,
but I was not permitted to do this, as Michael Schiavo considered that
to be a form of rehabilitation.
7. This entire experience made me look hard at nursing homes. After
about two years, I quit this job, because I was so disillusioned with the
way Terri was treated. Someone somewhere along the way should
have reported this.
FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.
- Page 2 of 3 -
<signed Carolyn Johnson>
Carolyn Johnson, Affiant
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 28 day of August, 2003, by
Carolyn Johnson who produced a Florida drivers license as identification.
<signed Patricia J. Anderson>
Notary Public
My commission expires
<Notary seal of Patricia J. Anderson>
- Page 3 of 3 -
If you can't argue the facts, argue the law; if you can't argue the law, impugn the emotional stability of the other freeper? Is that how it goes?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.