[Monty22]

I'm highly offended that my comment wasn't quoted :)

Anyway, I stand by those comments, mine and all. Cops should *not* have special rights.

[agitator]

Speaking from personal experience, there are all too many cops that are perfectly comfortable putting their paycheck waaaaaaaaaay above their sworn duty to uphold Constitutions they've never read while they jam you into the meat grinder.

[sergeantdave]

An alliance of gun owners and peace officers is a natural. It would drive the left wing gun grabbers up a tree and get them shouting: "Fascists! Fascists!"

Now add in the fact that more than 90% of active duty officers in the military identify themselves as "conservative or Republican."

I'm for it.

[45Auto]

Here's something that really shows just where some of the police brass are:

Posted on Wed, Oct. 22, 2003 The Philadelphia Inquirer

Police chiefs' conference opens in Phila.

By Ira Porter Inquirer Staff Writer

For the next few days, Center City should be safer than usual, with more than 15,000 law-enforcement officials from around the world in Philadelphia for the 110th annual conference of the International Association of Chiefs of Police.

Mayor Street welcomed conference attendees yesterday at an afternoon luncheon at the Convention Center, where the event will run through Saturday. Street was one of several big-name guests to greet officers. The chiefs will also welcome U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft, Gov. Rendell, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, and FBI Director Robert S. Mueller this week.

The conference, which is not open to the public, is a chance for officers to network and educate one another about different law-enforcement tactics being employed around the world.

Philadelphia Police Commissioner Sylvester M. Johnson, who also attended yesterday's opening, thanked the chiefs' association - and its president, Joseph Samuels Jr. - for bringing the conference to Philadelphia for the first time in 37 years. The city hosted the chiefs in 1955 and 1966.

"We have every intention of making this one of the best conferences in the history of the IACP," Johnson said, and then joked that former Police Commissioner John F. Timoney offered to host the conference while he was here - and then left. Johnson, who has urged his officers to attend the conference, said the department would lead several workshops, including one focusing on Philadelphia's antidrug program.

Exhibits will begin today, showcasing 1,600 booths with new technology, mapping systems, vehicles, and a host of other tools used in law enforcement. The conference has 120 workshops listed, covering issues from homeland security, terrorism and community policing to law-enforcement ethics.

Also today, a group of chiefs representing major American cities will formally urge Congress to extend the Brady Bill, which bans assault weapons. The Brady Bill is set to expire next year, and groups including the National Rifle Association have been trying to persuade Congress to let the law expire.

Benjamin Braxton, chief of police in Willingboro, Burlington County, came to Philadelphia yesterday with hopes of taking new tactics back to his department. "We're all talking about issues we may need to know," Braxton said. "We're here to pick up new ideas. Every police chief has some problems, and there is some chief somewhere who has had the same problem."

The problem is as long as some of the LEO brass are in favor of gun bans, then I have a hard time gunning up any sympathy for them. On top of that, the reporter who wrote this piece is obviously a dufus; he doesn't know what the hell the Brady Law is nor that it is not that rotten piece of crap that bans so-called AW's. It is just another demonstration of how the press is deliberately ignorant about the RKBA, because their minds are already made up, not to be confused by actual facts or by some real checking of facts before writing stupid anti-freedom articles.

[William Tell]

The Kalifornia Supreme Court recently struck down a provision of one of our "assault weapons" laws which exempted police officers (retired, perhaps).

This should be a clear warning to them that they will someday be disarmed when it is only their own personal defense or that of their families which is at stake. Police who infringe the right to keep and bear arms have no justification for doing so and are themselves violating the supreme law of the land.

[tracer]

It took me a couple of years to catch on and discontinue my membership, but the LEAA doesn't really give a rat's a$$ about "civilians."

They'll take our money in dues, but they only beat the drum over such LEO-friendly issues as national CCW reciprocity for active and retired LEOs while usimg their "concern" for the rights and interests of "civilians" as front to stay afloat with donor dollars.

They doggedly beg on at least a monthly basis for donations and even admit that they are in financial doo-doo.

AMF, guys. Market forces are in play...

[AdA$tra]

It pretty much depends on the cop. Some have a grasp of how having an armed citizenry is safer; others want to be in control of everything. It is actually the same with me listening to my police scanner. Some cops praise it, as I have helped catch some bad guys by being informed in the right place at the right time. Others look at me as a nuisance that is intruding into their turf by listening. I started listening by accident and got hooked because I wasn’t getting the truth from either the cops or media as to what is really happening around me.

[sistergoldenhair]

later

[Liberal Bob]

Here is what the rank and file cop feels about guncontrol

[#3Fan]

"[The Clinton White House] funneled millions of your tax dollars in political payoffs, disguised as `research’ into the pockets of national law enforcement organizations…," states an online article published by the LEAA. "…In one year during the Clinton Administration, the Police Executive Research Forum, the International Association of Chiefs of Police, the National Sheriffs Association and the Police Foundation collectively hauled in $4.4 million in Justice Department grants. …[P]olice groups that scurried to do Clinton's bidding happen to be the same ones that were awarded the lucrative federal grants."

Was there anything during the Clinton years that wasn't fake?

[Ches]

bang

[DMZFrank]

I am a retired police officer who has gone toe to toe with my colleagues over this issue innumerable times in my career. I believe that the 2nd amendment guarantees a clear constitutional individual right for military pattern small arms suitable for modern day militia use, and incidentally allowing for concealed firearms for personal public protection. Many of my compatriots did not share this position. I even said that no police officer should have one scintilla more right to personally own a firearm than any other law-abiding citizen.

Despite this, I believe that most rank and file PO's substantially support the classic rights of the 2nd amendment. It is the brass, particularly in the big cities, who kowtow to the gun grabbing tyranny of their political masters.

[FlyVet]

I revealed that anti-gun zealots such as Sarah Brady and Ted Kennedy have found a new enemy: cops. No longer content to disarm ordinary citizens, gun prohibitionists now want to strip off-duty and retired police of the right to keep and bear arms.

Oh REALLY?

Maybe I'm the one who is delusional, but I become less and less worried about these Sarah Brady types as I get older. Right to Carry laws are on the march. Thanks to Free Republic and the Internet, and talk radio, people are waking up to the fact that SELF DEFENSE IS NOT EVIL. For you steenking, lowlife anti-gun types, as Dolph Lundgren said to Sylvester Stallone,

You will lose.

[SevenDaysInMay]

Our RATIFIED Constitution, the only Law of our Land, tells us clearly that, under "equal protection", We the People have "the right to keep and bear arms" - all people, all jurisdictions. Of course judges and legislators have nibbled away at citizens' Constitutional rights.

Any elected official, judge, or justice who officially rules to the contrary of our Law of the Land is, acting under color of law, an outlaw of the worst kind.

Judicial rulings without a RATIFIED Constitutional basis and certainly beyond the RATIFIED limits of the granted powers of government(s) are not consented to by citizens, armed citizens and others, of this Constitutional Republic. These bench edicts are interesting as they are threatening, but have no more meaning than that of any other bully's threats. UnConstitutional statutes and regulations abound, but are likewise without lawful basis as law which should be obeyed.

We are meant to cower under the threats of the police powers of the State with its "compelling State interests" controlling legal authority.

For too long we have allowed blackrobes the luxury of thinking that they are above the law. This will end as will their careers.

Some of us are sworn to defend our (ratified) Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic.

These enemies in high office and out cannot have us armed pursuant to our RATIFIED Constitution. They believe that such places their lives at risk. Fancy that.