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Zell Miller Blast Dems, Says Party Is in 'Breakdown'
NewsMax.com ^ | Thursday, Oct. 23, 2003 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 10/23/2003 3:20:48 PM PDT by jmstein7

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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich
Zell was appointed to finish out Paul Coverdell's term. Coverdell was very conservative, and Zell, already a conservative Dem, pledged to carry out the term in the way Coverdell would have done. He has been true to his promise.

I really hate to see him go He has a lot more common sense than a large number of RINOS.--Chaffee, Collins come to mind.

vaudine
21 posted on 10/23/2003 5:46:54 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: jmstein7
"A National Party No More: The Conscience of a Conservative Democrat."

Let's just hope he knows whereof he speaks.

FGS

22 posted on 10/23/2003 5:56:33 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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Going out like a man.
23 posted on 10/23/2003 5:56:41 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Hillary's book tour was a thermometer in the behinds of the Dim sheeple for a 2004 run.)
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To: jmstein7; Perlstein; holdonnow; Nick Danger; Joe Hadenuf; Grampa Dave
It's not just Southern Democrats who are telling their Party the facts of life.

Former NYC Mayor Ed Koch has also told them the same thing, as has British Prime Minister Tony Blair, and so has former California Governor Jerry Brown.

Yet all of the genuises who labels themselves as "progressives" or "new Democrats" are ignoring the sage advice being given to them by their successful Democratic Party elders such as Senator Zell Miller.

Where is the national consensus that has to be built to win? Where's the "Vision" or bold new idea/plan?

Democrats can't just sit back and b!tch about Bush. It certainly didn't work in California against Schwarzenegger, and it didn't work for them in the 2002 mid-terms.

Nor can a major cult of personality figure save the Democrats, at least not without a Vision or national consensus (though I encourage Hillary to try it!).

Shoot, even Cuomo in New York is telling the Democrats to evolve past their current bash-Bush and fight, fight, fight nonsense, and he's not the sharpest tool in their shed.

24 posted on 10/23/2003 6:12:23 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: samtheman
By playing to the left, the dimowits drive centrists away, shrinking their own base.

By playing to the right, the repowits drive centrists away, shrinking their own base????

25 posted on 10/23/2003 6:16:38 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: votelife
Elect A Filibuster-Proof Majority---Great tag line!
26 posted on 10/23/2003 6:23:32 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Not total control)
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To: jmstein7
Zell Miller Blast Dems, Says Party Is in 'Breakdown'

More "sound and fury, signifying nothing" from Zell.

I respect Zell, his service in the US Marines, and his expressions of revulsion
over the depravity of the party of which he is, AFAIK, a lifetime member.

After years of my thinking he'd truly wake up, smell the coffee and cross the aisle,
looks like he's going to stay with the folks he can hardly stand.
He is a text-book example of "learned helplessness"...like a traumatized
rat in an psychology experiment, he's frozen and won't even move towards a better place.
27 posted on 10/23/2003 6:30:46 PM PDT by VOA
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Don't get to enamered with Zell. He is just in the middle of a Zig. The Zag is still to come.

This is the man who was Lester Maddox's Chief of staff and then Clinton's biggest fan.
28 posted on 10/23/2003 7:02:47 PM PDT by Blessed
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To: jmstein7
"They're just taking that shrinking Democratic base, that's about 32 percent right now, and they are appealing to the most shrill and the most active and the loudest - what they're doing is they're pulling this party further and further to the left."

That's the whole idea, Zell. This will be the first time the communist party USA has ever achieved such a large membership. And all they have to do is keep calling it the "democratic party."

29 posted on 10/23/2003 9:40:31 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: cinFLA
George Bush is center-right. Not far right.

Howard Dean and the nine ninies are all far left.
30 posted on 10/24/2003 9:16:19 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: jmstein7
Well, Zell welcome to the republican party...WE COULD USE another RINO.... </snide>
31 posted on 10/24/2003 9:38:18 AM PDT by hosepipe
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