Chuck Baldwin Asks Christians, "Is President Bush Really One of Us?"

Chuck Baldwin Ministries ^ | 10-24-03 | Baldwin, Chuck

[sinkspur]

Out of all the allegations made, interesting that you choose to challenge the most obscure example mentioned.

Yeah. Ain't it neat how Chuckie can slander three men at once? With no proof? Just an accusation that Chuck likely pulled out of his ample butt.

Bush regularly takes anti-Christian stands, period.

List a few.

[LiteKeeper]

read later

[Ferret Fawcet]

Can you post a link to the PBA bill? If what you're saying is true... holy smokes...

[mgist]

Is Chuck Baldwin related to Alec Baldwin?

[Starstruck]

"Render unto Caesar". Sorry but the Constitution is Caesar.

[rdb3]

Question from AMERICANS to Baldwin: Are YOU one of us?

LORD as my witness, I was about to post the same thing.

Remember, this is the same man who wrote "Is Bush the Antichrist?"

[mgist]

However, I am ready to give him a pass on these items but NEVER if he passes an amnesty bill.

I am very conservative and support any amnesty bills. America is a nation of immigrants who deserve a chance just as our forefathers did.

If Bush passes an amnesty bill future generations will be blessed with conservative leadership. It's a smart thing to do, plain and simple.

[MoJo2001]

That's a great question, but I'd never pose it to him. To do so would mean that I give a rat's rear end about his opinion. Which I don't.

[LadyDoc]

hell, by that definition I'm not a Christian...

[rdb3]

I am very conservative and support any amnesty bills. America is a nation of immigrants who deserve a chance just as our forefathers did.

If Bush passes an amnesty bill future generations will be blessed with conservative leadership. It's a smart thing to do, plain and simple.

Quick! Don your best asbestos suit!

You're gonna need it...

[mgist]

What is that supposed to mean?

[rdb3]

What is that supposed to mean?

It means that you are going to get flamed for supporting amnesty. That might as well be a curse word around here.

[AmericaUnited]

Chuck Balwin is a useful idiot of the anti-christian, anti-God forces.

Bush is a good, god-fearing, Bible reading, on-the-knees praying, decent man.

For Balwin to attack him like this is just pathetic.

I remember Chuckles the Clown wondering in a column whether Bush was the Anti-Christ.

"Your honor, I rest my case"

[mgist]

You're right. I've been flamed before. I just want want to get a point across. Conservatives have to be carefull with this issue.

[verity]

Look at all the trouble you started, dumbass. :~)

[vikingcelt]

"I am very conservative and support any amnesty bills. America is a nation of immigrants who deserve a chance just as our forefathers did.

If Bush passes an amnesty bill future generations will be blessed with conservative leadership. It's a smart thing to do, plain and simple."

MY forefathers did not come here ILLEGALLY and sponge off the American taxpayer, destroy the health care system in this country, destroy the educational system in this country, murder American citizens and get away with it by fleeing back to Mexico and on and on and on. If passing an amnesty bill is "conservative leadership" then I'm Bill Gates. If he passes ANY amnesty bill, all it proves is that he is a traitor and that he wants to see America and all of her citizens either destroyed or harmed in so many ways that there will no longer be an America. There may still be a country called "America" but it sure as hell won't be the America that I have lived in and loved.

[MississippiMan]

From the bill...

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the term `partial-birth abortion' means an abortion in which--

`(A) the person performing the abortion deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living fetus until, in the case of a head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother...

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There's the problem. A partial-birth abortion does not require the entire head to be outside the mother's body, rather only enough to get at the back of the skull in a manner that allows the hideous procedure to be performed.

As this bill reads, as long as any portion of the child's head is still inside the mother's body, the same procedure will still be just as legal as it was. I've read several articles which stated that pro-life medical experts tried to get this language changed, to no avail. Ask yourself WHY language like this would be in the bill. If the goal is to ban partial-birth abortion, really ban it, then the language should be something like this...

the term `partial-birth abortion' means an abortion in which-- `(A) the person performing the abortion deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living fetus until, in the case of a head-first presentation, any portion of the fetal head is outside the body of the mother...

That would truly ban the procedure, unlike the one that just passed, which lets politicians claim they did something, while in reality nothing has changed. Partial-birth abortion is just as legal as it was.

BTW, does your handle imply that you have ferrets?

MM

[Dahlseide]

We waited three years to get this??!! Back then I thought it was a sop to keep us calm, & voting Republican, a while longer. Now it appears to be a mini-sop.

[rdb3]

Not when they come here illegally dumb ass!

Excuse me, Mr. Ryan, but those words were not mine. I was responding to post #27 by mgist.

So you owe me an apology for the "dumb ass" comment, no?