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Are We A Christian Nation Chosen To Lead A Holy War On Terror?
TooGood Reports ^ | Thursday, October 23, 2003 | Lee R. Shelton IV

Posted on 10/23/2003 1:00:12 PM PDT by presidio9

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1 posted on 10/23/2003 1:00:12 PM PDT by presidio9
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Within our own neighborhoods we can find examples of the very evil we claim to be fighting throughout the rest of the world. Consider the evil of abortion. Since the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that brought infanticide into the mainstream of society, we have witnessed the government-sanctioned murder of over 40 million innocent human beings, an accomplishment of which even the worst terrorist nations cannot boast.

This writer is as bad as those liberal nutjobs who said about 9/11 "well, the US had it coming, after all, we have such a disparity of incomes, and we don't have public health care, and we intervened in Chile a long time ago, and blah blah blah".

The difference between the United States and the nations and organizations that we fight, if you want to use Roe as an example, is that we have the ability to change Roe if we want to - and that we have a debate at all.

2 posted on 10/23/2003 1:11:58 PM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (Judge Moore's Ten Commandments - the ultimate vanity post)
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To: presidio9
The War Prayer, by Mark Twain.

Those who seek holy war, should read it.

3 posted on 10/23/2003 1:15:07 PM PDT by thinktwice (Capitalism leads to trade, travel, comradeship and peace; but religion leads to ... war?.)
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To: presidio9
"Ask any Christian if they believe that God placed George W. Bush in the White House and most will answer in the affirmative."

Okay, I can go with that, but then,
Do you believe that God placed William B. Clinton in the White House, and if so, was He having an off day?
4 posted on 10/23/2003 1:15:11 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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I agree. I've always had trouble with this. I find it impossible to believe that God would put people like Hitler, Stalin, Clinton in charge because "it was His will".
5 posted on 10/23/2003 1:17:06 PM PDT by boop
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To: thinktwice
George S. Patton's prayer:

"God of our fathers, who by land and sea have ever lead us to victory, please continue your inspiring guidance in this the greatest of all conflicts.
Strengthen my soul so that the weakening instinct of self-preservation, which besets all of us in battle, shall not blind me to my duty to my own manhood, to the glory of my calling, and to my responsibility to my fellow soldiers.
Grant to our armed forces that disciplined valor and mutual confidence which insures success in war.
Let me not mourn for the men who have died fighting, but rather let me be glad that such heroes have lived.
If it be my lot to die, let me do so with courage and honor in a manner which will bring the greatest harm to the enemy, and please, oh Lord, protect and guide those I shall leave behind. Give us the victory, Lord."


"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. "

6 posted on 10/23/2003 1:20:45 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: John Beresford Tipton
Do you believe that God placed William B. Clinton in the White House

It sure wasn't me. There was an infection in the land and maybe God wanted to bring matters to a head, so to speak.

7 posted on 10/23/2003 1:20:46 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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You mean it was Clinton,
or "Hey Boss, wanna send the frogs again"?
8 posted on 10/23/2003 1:24:03 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: SedVictaCatoni
This writer is as bad as those liberal nutjobs who said about 9/11 "well, the US had it coming, after all, we have such a disparity of incomes, and we don't have public health care, and we intervened in Chile a long time ago, and blah blah blah".

The nutjobs are not limited to liberals...Recall the idiot Falwell and his little buddy Robertson said it was our fault God lifted His 'protective shield'.

9 posted on 10/23/2003 1:40:19 PM PDT by RJCogburn ("I want a man with grit."..................Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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To: presidio9
read later
10 posted on 10/23/2003 2:00:32 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: thinktwice
"Those who seek holy war, should read it."

The war is not about religion. It's about convincing the enemy of mankind to seek out a different planet to conquer or die on this one. It's about surviving as a free people.

What profit hath the flesh if choice is destroyed? Live free or die trying.

11 posted on 10/23/2003 2:21:42 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: thinktwice
Those who seek holy war, should read it.

Earth to contientious objector: We don't seek war, we are already involved in one. We didn't start this war, it was thrust upon us 20 years ago today.

12 posted on 10/23/2003 2:35:06 PM PDT by presidio9 (Countdown to 27 World Championships...)
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The war is not about religion.

You are mistaken. The current war involves the secular world against an evil religion.

I object to calling American action a holy war between Christians and Moslems because Christianity has serious problems, too.

13 posted on 10/23/2003 4:08:57 PM PDT by thinktwice ("There has been only one Christian. They caught and crucified him .. early." -- Mark Twain --)
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To: thinktwice
Maybe it was back in 1976 ... the bicentennial --- someone said ...

America has come a long way ... and --- America has a long way to go !

Liberalism ... fascist - socialist (( cold war )) America is retreating --- in defeat - collapse !

Freedom and socialism are incompatible ... 537 votes !
14 posted on 10/23/2003 4:24:06 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: thinktwice
Many ways of looking at it. Some say its religion against religion, God against a 'god,' Some say as you do, some say as I do. Looking at a cube with different colored sides does not alter the fact that it is a cube. Color the war as you wish, but it is a war nevertheless. No, from my perspective, I'm not mistaken.
15 posted on 10/23/2003 5:37:54 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: John Beresford Tipton
No, God wasn't having an off day when he gave us William Judas.....er, Jefferson Clinton.

God gave us Clinton as a wake up call.

It woke some of us up. How about you?


16 posted on 10/23/2003 8:58:04 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (The war on drugs is a tax-payer financed affirmative action program for drug dealers.)
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17 posted on 10/25/2003 9:27:31 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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Ask any Christian if they believe that God placed George W. Bush in the White House and most will answer in the affirmative.

Really? Most? Not any Christian I know would dare such herracy.

18 posted on 10/25/2003 11:06:02 AM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: thinktwice; presidio9
"The War Prayer, by Mark Twain. - Those who seek holy war, should read it."

Marxist DemocRATS and other Leftists appreciate any useful idiot that aids them in their efforts at being the emasculators of America in particular and civilisation in general. Hahahaha

Here's another soul-mate for you:

QUOTE: "Liberate" is Orwellian doublespeak for _invade and occupy_. It's used to make wars of conquest palatable to the public. To me, using the terms "liberate" or "collateral damage" signifies utter insensitivity. Sorry,but that's how I feel.

Mark Twain hated "liberate" too.

If he were here today, he would heartily denounce Bush's proposed "liberation" of Iraq. ...

Witnessing the US exploitation of Cuba and the Philippines, Mark Twain became a self-declared "anti-imperialist" - and opponent of war. (In the Philippines they put up a Mark Twain memorial and in Cuba too, I believe. He is their hero.)

In _The Mysterious Stranger_, he made some shrewd observations on war propaganda, anti-war support - and courage. (I often feel disheartened when I see people caving in to the current onslaught of propaganda. Reading Mark Twain's words makes this a little easier to accept.)

Anti-war support wanes quickly, Twain felt, because of the individual's "desire, for safety's or comfort's sake, to stand well in his neighbor's eye".

This need to be accepted still exists. But today peace proponents can encourage one another worldwide - thanks to the internet.

So the anti-war support for Iraq has actually gained momentum, especially in the US.

And if public resistance together with Francis Boyle's plan succeed, Bush will never make a speech about Iraq's "liberation" - by US daisy cutters and 'smart bombs'. Just for once, Iraqis may get a chance at determining their destiny. ~ bon courage, Elga Sutter

19 posted on 10/25/2003 12:01:13 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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Are We A Christian Nation Chosen To Lead A Holy War On Terror?

Well, France isn't. Either.


20 posted on 10/25/2003 12:03:43 PM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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