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Head of Muslim Chaplain Program headed to Syria with cash (Abdurahman Alamoudi)
NBC News ^ | 10/22/03 | Lisa Myers (NBC News)

Posted on 10/23/2003 9:01:51 AM PDT by Seeking the truth

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To: mabelkitty
Glad we changed the money - easier to track money laundering that way.

Ssshhhhh, Jackson's listening.

42 posted on 10/23/2003 11:31:16 AM PDT by eyespysomething (As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17))
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
Actually, he was going to open a gas station/convenience store in Florida!
43 posted on 10/23/2003 11:31:16 AM PDT by Seeking the truth (McDonald Clan - Hired Mercenary - Have Bullhorn - Will Shout for Brew!)
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To: Seeking the truth
I expect an apology

Don't hold your breath. You deliberately falsified the link. You got caught. No apology required or offered.

44 posted on 10/23/2003 11:31:22 AM PDT by jimkress (Go away Pat Go away!)
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To: ppaul
The US Government does not determine legitimate denominations based on theology. It is determined on the basis of a significant number of adherents and the ability to put forward representatives trained to the level required for any other chaplain.
45 posted on 10/23/2003 11:37:29 AM PDT by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: Seeking the truth; LiteKeeper
My point is that the chaplaincy is not culpable.

They are not tasked, permitted, nor able to investigate religious denominations.

But, I agree that they should throw any American who aids our enemies into the brig.
46 posted on 10/23/2003 11:41:33 AM PDT by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: Cicero
"Well, it's delightful to notice NBC pointing out that he fooled bill clinton too. I'd have expected them to blame it on Bush alone, as usual. "

Yeah but they do it in such a way as to make the guy look like the enemy of Clinton. I.e. Clinton is the enemy of terrorists, but there was no terrorist threat for Bush to go to war against.

47 posted on 10/23/2003 11:52:38 AM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: jimkress
Let me try to make it real simple for you.

In order to post this article, which came from a New York Giants football bulletin board and was not sourced, I had to "fake out" the FR post article form.

The FR post article form requires an URL beginning with http://.....etc.

Since the article was not sourced at the NY Giants site, I typed in http://www.unknown.com in order for the post to be posted here on FR. I could have put in this URL - http://www.bigblueinteractive.com/petescorner2/forum_display.cfm?F1_ID=109792 - which was the URL of the thread on the Giants board. That would not be much help as only the contents of the article above was posted by the Giants poster - without an URL.

I was totally surprised to find that www.unknown.com actually exists.

If you can't apologize for calling me a liar, well, what can I say?

I'll let the other readers of this post judge your comments & mine.

48 posted on 10/23/2003 11:54:29 AM PDT by Seeking the truth (McDonald Clan - Hired Mercenary - Have Bullhorn - Will Shout for Brew!)
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To: BushisTheMan
"Need I go on...???"

What I wonder about is the extent of the infiltration into the federal government by radical islamists. How many islamist "decision makers" or key empolyees in our government have disloyal(treasonous) intentions?
49 posted on 10/23/2003 11:55:37 AM PDT by Calamari
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To: mabelkitty
Were they new bills or old bills? No, they were dirty and bloody money.
50 posted on 10/23/2003 11:56:58 AM PDT by desertcry
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To: jimkress
Seeking the Truth is a long-time, highly-respected freeper. Your comments are out of line. Now go have a double-chocolate Dove ice cream bar and cool down.

Leni

51 posted on 10/23/2003 2:37:48 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal
LOL! Long residence time = it's OK to lie.

How Clintonian of you.
52 posted on 10/23/2003 2:42:47 PM PDT by jimkress (Go away Pat Go away!)
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To: Seeking the truth
BTTT
53 posted on 10/23/2003 2:56:07 PM PDT by Unicorn
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To: Seeking the truth
“Hear that, Bill Clinton. We are all supporters of Hamas. Allah Akbar!”

A few of us longtime freepers predicted this. Clinton came to power with lots of China cash. It was discovered; they had to bail.

We predicted his next master would be from the Midle East.

54 posted on 10/23/2003 5:09:59 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Please become a monthly donor!!! Just $3 a month--you won't miss it, and will feel proud!)
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To: xzins
If it is a legitimate denomination...

Well that is the operative word with Americans now, isn't it, legitimate ?

Many Americans now have strong feelings regarding Islam, and this doesn't help.

Speaking as a former military brat, I can't help but wonder how this affects morale and cohesion in the military ranks, especially that of the Chaplain corp.

55 posted on 10/23/2003 8:44:58 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Seeking the truth
But May Kheder, Alamoudi's lawyer, insists the money was legally obtained and not intended for terrorism. “Dr. Alamoudi maintains that he has no connection whatsoever to any terrorist activity,” Kheder says.

Oh, so he's ok. What's the fuss? His lawyer with a Muslim last name says that *he* says he's ok.

Why the he!! does the military hire these jihadists??????

57 posted on 10/23/2003 10:46:51 PM PDT by First Amendment
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ABDURAHMAN ALAMOUDI INDICTEDSITE Institute

SITE Institute,10/23/2003 - Abdurahman Alamoudi Indicted

Abdurahman Alamoudi was indicted today on eighteen counts, including prohibited financial transactions with the Libyan government, money laundering, false statements, misuse of his passport, and unlawfully procuring naturalization.

Alamoudi was arrested on September 28 for dealing in financial activities with Libya, designated a state sponsor of terrorism by the United States.

Though no charges of material support to terrorism were brought against Alamoudi, a recent appeal filed yesterday by the government in support of Alamoudi?s detention alleged,



?Through his control of entities known as the Success Foundation, the Happy Hearts Trust, and Taibah International Aid Association, Alamoudi has provided material financial support to fronts for Al-Qaeda, including Global Relief Foundation (itself a designated terrorist organization) and the Foundation for Human Rights & Humanitarian Relief (commonly referred to as ?I.H.H.?), which supported the cell responsible for the Millenium [sic] Bombing plot.?



The SITE Institute compiled a fact sheet on Alamoudi upon his arrest in late September. It is reproduced below.



Fact Sheet

Abdurahman Alamoudi has maintained a strong presence in the media for over a decade and has created, or been involved in, numerous organizations designed to promote Muslim issues within the United States. Ancestrally from Ethiopia, Abdurahman Alamoudi received a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacy from Cairo University and also holds a Master?s in Business Administration from Southeastern University in Washington, D.C.



Voiced Open Support for Terrorist Groups



As documented in her autobiography, Terrorist Hunter, Rita Katz, the Director of the SITE Institute, while working undercover, taped Alamoudi voicing his open support for the terrorist organizations Hamas and Hezbollah in Lafayette Park, across the street from the White House, on October 28, 2000. Alamoudi stated before an excited, cheering crowd and exclaimed:



?I have been labeled by the media in New York to be a supporter of Hamas...Anybody support Hamas here? Hear that, Bill Clinton? We are all supporters of Hamas. I wish they added that I am also a supporter of Hezballah...Does anybody support Hezballah here? I want you to send a message. It's an occupation, stupid...Hamas is fighting an occupation. It's a legal fight.?



As a result of Alamoudi?s open support for designated terrorist groups, then candidates George W. Bush and Hilary Clinton returned donations given to them by Alamoudi and the American Muslim Council.



In January 2001, Alamoudi attended and was photographed in Beirut at a terrorist summit attended by representatives of the terrorist groups Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Hezballah, and al-Qaeda.



Alamoudi Affiliated with Designated Terrorist Musa Abu Marzooq



According to corporate records, as of 2000, Alamoudi served as the Secretary of the United Association for Studies and Research (UASR). Mousa Abu Marzooq, who is currently the political director of the terrorist group Hamas, served on the board of UASR. Alamoudi also organized the legal fund campaign for the now designated Mousa Abu Marzooq.



Alamoudi is an Official with Suspected Terrorist Front Group Raided by U.S. Authorities



The Saudi governmental charity, the International Islamic Relief Organization (IIRO), has been alleged by several governments, including the U.S., the U.K., and Canada, to funnel money and provide relief to terrorists. In the United States, IIRO and as its sister organization, the Success Foundation, had their offices raided in March 2002 as part of the ?SAAR Network.? Alamoudi served as the Secretary of the Success Foundation. According to the search warrant authorizing the raids, officials were looking for, among other items, ?Any and all information referencing in any way PIJ [Palestinian Islamic Jihad], Hamas, Al-Qaida?Usama Bin Laden, and any other individual or entity designated as a terrorist by the President of the United States, the United States Treasury, or the Secretary of State.? No charges have yet been filed in relation to that raid.



Alamoudi Founded and is Involved in Several Prominent Muslim Organizations in the United States



In 1990, Alamoudi established the American Muslim Council (AMC), a non-profit political organization that aims to mobilize Muslims in the United States politically. Another non-profit organization, the American Muslim Foundation (AMF), was founded by Alamoudi the same year and is a sister organization of the AMC, according to tax filings for the organizations. AMF provides social and humanitarian relief to Muslims living in the United States. Because AMF shared office space with the Success Foundation, AMF?s office was also raided in the March 2002 raid of the ?SAAR Network,? though no charges have been filed against it.



Alamoudi is a past employee of the SAAR Foundation, the hub of the raided ?SAAR Network.? According to the search warrant authorizing the raids, officials were looking for, among other items, ?Any and all information referencing in any way PIJ [Palestinian Islamic Jihad], Hamas, Al-Qaida?Usama Bin Laden, and any other individual or entity designated as a terrorist by the President of the United States, the United States Treasury, or the Secretary of State.? No charges have yet been filed in relation to that raid.



Alamoudi is also a founder of the American Muslim Armed Forces and Veteran Affairs Council, one of two organizations approved to nominate military chaplains. Alamoudi claimed that he was the first Muslim certifying agent for the military?s chaplain program in 1991.



Alamoudi served as the regional representative for Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) in the Washington, DC-metropolitan area. ISNA is the other organization approved to nominate military chaplains. Alamoudi also previously served as the Acting President of the Muslim Student?s Association (MSA).



Alamoudi was a founder of the website IslamOnline.net, which serves as an informative website for Muslims containing Islamic analysis, fatwas, and news. Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi serves as the chairman of the website. Al-Qaradawi has issued radical fatwas legitimizing suicide bombings and supporting terrorist attacks.


58 posted on 10/23/2003 11:57:51 PM PDT by tubavil
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To: Seeking the truth
"On the sole count of the indictment, treason against the United States of America, how does the jury find?"

"We find the defendant, Mr. Alamoudi, guilty."

"Mr. Alamoudi, before I pronounce sentence, would you like a cigarette or a blindfold?"

A military officer conspiring with terrorists whose stated goal is the destruction of America. Is there any reason whatsoever he shouldn't face the firing squad?
59 posted on 10/24/2003 12:49:53 AM PDT by FreedomFlynnie (We defeated Naziism and Communism. What makes Islamofascists think they have a chance?)
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To: happygrl
My guess is that the chaplain corps is affected by Chap Yee, and that it has had an impact on their morale.

However, I repeat, there can be no questioning of the legitimacy of a religious denomination that has adherents, training, and a contact agency. The Chaplain Corps, nor anyone else, can say about a religious body with a significant number of adherents and a world-wide presence that it is NOT a legitimate religion.

You can, however, fully investigate the backgrounds of those they recommend to be chaplains. This is where the army let down.

As far as the chaplain corps is concerned, though, it is a small branch in the army. It is not equipped with the manpower to investigate a "denomination," nor would it be legal to investigate a denomination, nor have they been tasked to investigate denominations.
60 posted on 10/24/2003 5:21:29 AM PDT by xzins
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