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NOTE: - Terri Schiavo has been moved back to the hospice and her family allowed to visit with her last night. Terri's brother, Bobby, was the first callin guest on CoastToCoastAM last night. George Noory noted that 95% of his viewers support restoring the feeding tube to Terri. You can find more of Bobby's comments here:

GEORGE NOORY 1ST GUEST - spokesperson for the family of Terri Schindler-Schiavo - LIVE THREAD

1 posted on 10/23/2003 7:48:08 AM PDT by NYer
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To: JulieRNR21; MarMema; Theodore R.; floriduh voter; Coleus; cpforlife.org; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Terri Schiavo alert!
2 posted on 10/23/2003 7:52:16 AM PDT by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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To: NYer
Paragraphs are our friends.
3 posted on 10/23/2003 7:57:37 AM PDT by jokar (Beware the White European Male Christian theological complex !!)
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To: NYer
I'm getting tired of the name Michael. What do y'all think of "Prisoner #679," after the commandments he's violating?

12 posted on 10/23/2003 8:40:01 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: NYer
CLEARWATER, FL, October 22, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Terry Shiavo saga continues to take more ugly twists and turns. Although the heroic efforts of the Florida legislature and Governor Jeb Bush succeeded in forcing medical personnel to re-connect Terri to nutrition and hydration, implementation of Bush's order did not go smoothly yesterday and there are still fears for her life.

LifeSiteNews.com learned of these disturbing details today from Debra Vinnedge of Children of God for Life who was with Terri's parents at the vigil outside the Hospice since before the feeding tube was removed. Terri's family is currently barred from visiting their daughter by order of Terri's estranged husband Michael who, with his lawyer, is still engaged in intense legal manoeuvres to ensure Terri's death.

Moreover, the hospital is refusing to release any details about Terri's current condition. Vinnedge reveals that yesterday, prior to Governor Bush's 5 p.m. order to begin hydration, the Woodside hospice where Terri was staying refused to allow religious objects to be placed in Terri's room. It threw out all religious artifacts that had been left there by Terri's parents.

Previously, Terri had been denied a small fragment of final Holy Communion under the pretence that she could receive nothing by mouth for fear of choking. That was while she was being slowly and painfully killed by the removal of nutrition and hydration.

When the Bush executive order arrived at the Hospice by both fax transmission and official delivery, Hospice officials refused to reinsert the feeding tube, claiming there were no medical personnel to do so, despite the fact that they were the ones who removed it on October 15th. They promised to transfer Terri to a local hospital as quickly as possible.

In addition, two medical doctors had been summoned to the Hospice and were denied entrance to perform the procedure as indicated by Gov. Bush. They were also denied access to observe the patient and her condition.

At 6:30 p.m. an ambulance arrived to take Terri to Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater. Upon arrival at the hospital, medical staff refused to comply with the Governor's order to re-insert her feeding tube or an IV, stating they had been threatened with litigation by Michael Schiavo's attorneys if any medical care was given to Terri.

After the hospital was told repeatedly by government officials that they must comply or risk losing funding, at approximately 9:30 p.m. an IV was finally inserted - four hours after the governor's order had been given.

Michael Schiavo has denied visitation at the hospital to all members of Terri's family. Terri's priest, Monsignor Thaddeus Malinowski, has also not been able to visit Terri. A request for immediate appointment of a guardian ad litem to protect Terri's medical interests and physical well-being was denied by Judge David A. Demers.

Terri's parents and supporters have sent a request to federal Attorney General John Ashcroft asking him to reassert Terri's civil rights. While the bill which passed the Florida House called for a guardian ad litem, the Senate version of the bill did not. As of 4 p.m. yesterday, the last time Terri's parents, siblings and priest were able to visit Terri, she was reportedly doing well.

"She greeted them with joy, she was smiling and laughed, sitting up," Vinnedge told LifeSiteNews.com. In a grateful message to supporters, Terri's parents said, "On behalf of Terri's family and everyone at the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation, we thank you for your kindness, your action and your willingness to care enough to do something positive for a stranger. It is our hope that Terri will be given the chance to say "thank you" herself one day soon."

Meanwhile, CNN reports today that Michael Shiavo has "received $300,000 for pain and suffering and loss of consortium" and "has declined to comment on whether there is an outstanding life insurance policy on his wife."


17 posted on 10/23/2003 9:48:02 AM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: NYer
A Terri Wallis was in a coma-like state for 19 years, then recoverd. It happened in 1984 from a car a accident. When he came to he thought Ronald Reagan was the president.
18 posted on 10/23/2003 10:02:01 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: NYer
Thanks for the post.

Here's an excerpt from Felos' book that is on his publisher's site:

http://www.bluedolphinpublishing.com/Felos.htm

"While standing in the house with the realtor, I knew I would live there, as improbable as the circumstances made it seem. Believing that something will happen is not foresight. Rather, it is the actual experience in the present of something that will occur in the future. The paradox with this form of intuition is that the future is no longer the future because it becomes for that moment the present. When I entered that house for the first time, I knew I would live there because, through foresight, I realized I was already living there.

Most times this "knowing" for me is sensed as a feeling. Sometimes I hear it, and sometimes I see it. This is not to say that I go around every day intuiting tomorrow's events. I'm stuck in my head a good portion of the time, like most of us in our mentally over-developed culture. This means that most of our energy is tied up intellectually, engaged in thought and reacting to thought. And much of the time our reactive thought process drives our emotions. How we feel depends upon whether we happen to be attracted to, averse to or indifferent to what we are thinking.

Intuition does not lie in the rational mind. Sometimes it is "seen" through other centers of the body, such as the heart or solar plexus. Everybody has had that "gut feeling." For me, the experience of intuition through sight is like seeing two different realities at the same time. To use a Star Trek analogy, it's dimensionally multi-phasic. (I wondered whether I could write this book without referring to Star Trek, and didn't get past page three!)

The crew of the Enterprise, beset in one episode by all types of strange maladies, discovered that they were infected by invisible parasitic creatures attached to their bodies. The creatures were unseeable because they existed in another phasic dimension. They occupied the same space and time, but at a different vibrational level. With the benefit of a hand-held "multi-phasic viewing device" constructed by our heroes, they could press a button and observe the creatures on their skin. Release the button and they were gone. Intuitive seeing is somewhat like that for me. A transparent image exists and is there, and then it's not. While extremely subtle, it is also undeniably real."


Felos' thinks he can predict the future. No wonder he is so mad. All our emails and phone calls were not part of his "vision" of starving Terri to death.

22 posted on 10/23/2003 10:35:38 AM PDT by FR_addict
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45. "Non-party co-conspirator Felos has been paid $550,000, virtually the entirety of Terri's estate...and no funds from the estate have been used for her rehabilitation..."

Perhaps not entirely so:

"She's not a vegetable," Ms. Sauer insisted as she rested her tired feet. "She knows voices, she responds. She can follow commands, and she tries to communicate by blinking her eyelids 'yes' and 'no.'" And then there's the most important detail of all: "We used to feed her with a spoon, and she swallowed on her own."

That was seven years ago, when Ms. Sauer was a nurse at a rehab facility in Largo, Fla. At that time, Ms. Schiavo was getting physical therapy and full-time attention from skilled nurses. But the facility charged $4,000 a month, as Ms. Sauer recalls, and Mr. Schiavo soon chose to discontinue his wife's therapy and move her into the much cheaper hospice system. She's languished there for six years, tethered to a feeding tube while a fierce legal battle swirled around her.

http://www.worldmag.com/world/issue/10-25-03/national_4.asp

Terri did get physical therapy at a "rehab facility" up until 95 or 96, according to Sauer. I don't know what went into that therapy, or how long it lasted, or how how much of the settlement money it consumed.

Mr. Schiavo did say that Terri went to several hospitals and at one point had a "brain stimulator" tried on her. Cost unknown.

25 posted on 10/23/2003 5:13:06 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: NYer
The ACLU finally got into it....on the husband's side, of course. The B.S. is getting deeper.
31 posted on 10/24/2003 10:17:43 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: NYer
I just want to what WE all can do to bring a firestorm down on this b*stard husband, the judge, and everybody who has been obstructing an open inquiry into the woman's condition.
33 posted on 10/26/2003 1:46:28 PM PST by Tax Government
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If we really want to stop this some pro lifer who knows enough about the case HAS
to get the guts to place Michael Schiavo under citizen's arrest for Domestic
Violance and Attempted Murder based on that Bone Scan and other valid evidence
of such activity. This seems to be the ONLY way to stop Terri's starvation and dehydration now. I will also be posting this to the Terri Schiavo threads at TOS as EVERYONE involved with the case needs to know this.
36 posted on 12/23/2003 9:04:56 PM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: NYer; amdgmary

bttt. I missed this the first time around. Lots of material here that's worth reviewing at this time.


40 posted on 05/15/2004 7:59:44 PM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: NYer; 8mmMauser; TaxRelief; russesjunjee; amdgmary; Republic; FR_addict; Sun; BykrBayb
It's an anniversary of freepers meeting for the first time on a lawn (we killed the grass) and Terri was granted her right to live in 2003. Never forget and never again.

8mmauser, please put this thread on the dirty laundry and the Oct. Terri Dailies thread. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1387973/posts

Why did decent men and women surrender their consciences by switching their votes in 2005 which caused her murder? We did all we could to prevent this crime.

God Bless Terri and her real family. Terri's Foundation is putting out fires wherever the merchants of death come a calling on a case by case basis to force exit disabled Americans who are not terminally ill. www.terrisfight.org

46 posted on 10/15/2005 11:15:04 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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