Can our deity beat their deity? (Boston Globe Gen. Boykin Hit Piece)

Boston Globe ^ | 10/23/2003 | Ellen Goodman

[Lance Romance]

AT FIRST it sounded like satire. My God is bigger than yours? Did General William Boykin actually taunt his Islamic enemy with that muscular divinity? Not my weapons are bigger than yours.

Not my battalions are bigger than yours. My God is bigger. It sounded like some e-mail that got through the morning spam filter: Click here if you want your God to be three inches bigger.

[Lance Romance]

They rose to protect Boykin's religious freedom to denigrate another religion and his First Amendment right to intolerance.

Apparently, she isn't bothered by our terrorist enemies using the word jihad "holy war" or Muslim clerics issuing infatadah's. However, a General using the words God or Christian.......

[tkathy]

Go General!

[netmilsmom]

Hey Jig,
Please add your "Our Almighty....." tagline to this thread. (I don't want to give it away, it's the best!)

If it's needed anywhere, it's here!!!!!

[Mears]

Ellen Goodman is long overdue for retirement. I think she is getting senile.

[AppyPappy]

I guess Ellen Goodman can't move on like she wanted us to do with Clinton.

[sauropod]

"It's a sacrilege to our civic religion."

Therein lies the problem. Ellen has instituted a new state religion.

[sauropod]

Are youse guys reading this the same way i am?

[reed_inthe_wind]

A crusade in the name of tolerance - who could be against that.

[man of Yosemite]

The general called it right. Just what is our "civic religion"? Is it I'm okay your okay? Because I've found that I'm really not always okay, and some people are a lot less okay than me.

These hate-filled zealots of Islam are leaving a wake of murder, destruction and confusion wherever they are allowed to prosper. They are a cancer in our world, and we must take them out.

[GO65]

After this year's playoffs, Boston Globe reporters ought not to be talking about their "anything" beating anyone else's "anything". :-)

[300winmag]

Therein lies the problem. Ellen has instituted a new state religion.

What "new" state religion? The state has been worshipped since the days of FDR. It's just now that statists feel strong enough to start repressing other religions.

Notice that Boykin violated no article of the UCMJ. Yet they want a punishment for him equivalent to a court martial, and without allowing him any sort of legal defense. This was called "extra-judicial punishment" in Stalin's Russia.

These people are disgusting because they worship the socialist state, with Bill and Hitlery as their chief idols. And freedom of speech and religion goes out the window when anyone says something that offends their statist religion. That's the same phony "indignation" scam the "moderate moslems" use against us.

[taxcontrol]

Two comments:

"Yet we seem to be drifting again into civil skirmishes over religion"

No, we are involved in World War III - a religous war started by Muslims

"....civil religion"

I do not have or recognize " civil religion". I am Christian and follow the teachings of Christ.

[lady lawyer]

This whole episode is just stunning to me. They "investigate" a man just for giving voice to his religious belief. Amazing.

Who knows what other high ranking government officials do and say in their time off the job? It only becomes an issue if the media make it an issue.

They may not succeed in punishing General Boykin. But the mere fact that they have orchestrated an uproar like this will make all religious people with a public role afraid to give voice to their beliefs, even in a private setting, as these church meetings were.

The godless Left will have accomplished their goal, no matter what happens to General Boykin.

[Sender]

If we strive only for 'tolerance' then we will lose. We can't 'tolerate' this jihad against us.

[tbpiper]

It's a sacrilege to our civic religion.

Spoken like a true spiritual nincompoop.

[sticker]

They screams from the media over the fact that the General talking about this being a Christian nation that was founded on Judeo-Christian ideas while ignoring the islamic bs reminds me of their screams when an American president acts in the best interest of this country instead of worrying about what some dipstick in europe or at the un wants, or the way they complain about Americans being proud of this country while talking glowingly about french pride or any other country's citizens being proud of their country. In other words the same old sh@t, the media is anti-American

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

"It's a sacrilege to our civic religion."

Wow- this is the stupidest thing I have ever read by Ellen Goodman (and that covers a LOT of ground). Just what the hell is MY "Civic Religion" supposed to be? Do we have special holidays? Do we bow towards Washington DC 5 times a day? What are the tenets? Is the "Congressional Record" supposed to be my Bible?

So many questions, so little time...

[jwalsh07]

If Americans are to stand for tolerance, it's more than a strategic error to say that my God is bigger than yours. It's a sacrilege to our civic religion.

Such honesty from the left is breathtaking.

At last a woman who is proud of and understands that the secular humanists who worship at the altar of moral relativism is indeed a religion and that to dishonor that religion by discarding moral relativism is a sin.

I can't tell you how happy this makes me. Of course this means that the secular humanists will have to be placed on the same plane as Christians, Jews, Muslims et al in the pantheon of the "Great Wall of Separation". Ah, if only it were so.

[ShorelineMike]

I was going to ask for a "BARF ALERT" on this ... until I realized that it had been written by Ellen Goodman. Ms. Goodman's columns, along with those of Maureen Dowd and Molly Ivins, have implicit MBAs (Mandatory Barf Alerts) attached to them perforce.

And to think that at age 12, I thought that the Boston Glob(e) was a half-way decent newspaper. But then again, that *was* back in 1972 ...

[Avoiding_Sulla]

Yes pod, I am reading it the same way as you. And perhaps a bit more.... Here's my added thoughts.

I find it hard to believe a non-entity like Ellen Goodman would be selected to float a trial balloon of the term "civic religion." That probably means she heard it in some one of her Leftist focus groups, and let the cat out of the bag.

She might even be one of our moles who has intentionally let the cat out of the bag.

When arguing before the courts about allowing traditional Christian symbols to remain in public view and discourse, the courts have traditionally scoffed at the pro-religious argument that denial of traditional religious rights was, by default, an unlawful establishment of secular humanism.

So along comes this writer demonstrating that there are Leftists who talk, at least among themselves, about their "civic religion." And apparently one of the dogmas of this civic religion is tolerance.

Well, we know that she called out diversity as one of the things her religion tolerates. Another, as I've been cataloging for you, is the welcoming of death culture.

Presumably another thing her relgion welcomes is perversity. As calling Leftist insprired predilections, whatever they may be from day-to-day, a religion seems to be a perversity of what true religion is about (solid foundations for living in a slippery world), such tolerance of perversity makes sense.

I would say it is a good thing Ms. Goodman wrote this. It reveals to us more how the nutcases wish to make an asylum out of our nation. You gotta love it when they write like this so you have proof in black and white as to how the nutcases think they are going to take over and rule us.

As such, this piece of drivel is well worth bookmarking.

Agreed?

Thanks for the ping.

-Av