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1 posted on 10/22/2003 7:11:19 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
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To: sonsofliberty2000
I just heard this on CNN & MSNBC.

The judge may have gotten sick of Muhammed "representing" himself--with the lawyers feeding him questions and telling him what to object to.

2 posted on 10/22/2003 7:13:21 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: sonsofliberty2000
They have a fool for a client.
4 posted on 10/22/2003 7:16:06 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Of course, what will the judge do when once again things aren't going the way he likes, and Mohammed tries to again represent himself?
5 posted on 10/22/2003 7:17:12 AM PDT by COBOL2Java
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Sorry to hear that.

His defense attorneys are quite good and I would hate to see him not get the justice that he deserves below:


11 posted on 10/22/2003 7:38:40 AM PDT by BillF (Support Our Troops http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1004809/posts)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Oh man! And I just sat down for possibly the funniest court trial ever.

Classic opening statement from Mohammed, "There are three truths you will hear: The Truth, The Whole Truth, and Nothing But The Truth." I laughed so hard almost lost control of the car when it was read.
12 posted on 10/22/2003 7:49:21 AM PDT by sully777 (Ad absurdum)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
From The Dallas Morning News ...


Sniper suspect ends stint as his own lawyer

09:57 AM CDT on Wednesday, October 22, 2003

Associated Press

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. – Sniper suspect John Allen Muhammad changed his mind Wednesday and ceased acting as his own lawyer.

Circuit Judge LeRoy F. Millette Jr. informed the jury of Muhammad's decision after a half-hour conference at the judge's bench. Jonathan Shapiro and Peter Greenspun, who had been advising him on standby since his decision Monday, returned to their former roles as his defense lawyers.

Muhammad stunned the judge and even his own attorneys on Monday when he demanded the right to represent himself just as opening arguments were to begin in his death penalty trial.

Prosecutors on Tuesday had complained about Muhammad's self-representation, even asking at one point for the judge to rescind it. They said Muhammad was receiving too much help from Shapiro and Greenspun, whose role as standby counsel was supposed to be limited.

Millette ordered Muhammad to physically distance himself from the two lawyers to minimize communications between them.

Still, Millette had said on Tuesday that Muhammad had been representing himself competently.

On Wednesday, Millette told the jury that Muhammad had made the decision himself to revert to Greenspun and Shapiro as his attorneys.

With Greenspun and Shapiro again serving as counsel Wednesday, Greenspun launched a series of objections during the testimony of Chris Okupski of Trenton, N.J., who sold Muhammad the Chevy Caprice prosecutors believe was the vehicle used in the sniper spree.

Greenspun won many of his objections, something that happened only rarely while Muhammad represented himself.

Muhammad is on trial on murder charges related to the killing of Dean Harold Meyers at a northern Virginia gasoline station during the spree last October that left 10 people dead.

Muhammad's decision to represent himself had created the awkward situation Tuesday as he cross-examined one of his alleged victims, restaurant owner Paul J. LaRuffa of Clinton, Md.

LaRuffa survived a gunshot wound to the chest Sept. 5, 2002, as he closed up his restaurant. He was robbed of $3,600 and a laptop computer, which prosecutors say helped finance the sniper spree the following month. The computer was found in Muhammad's car when he was arrested.

Muhammad began questioning LaRuffa on Tuesday by saying he meant no disrespect and that "I understand how you feel when your life is on the line." Muhammad was admonished for making that statement, which the judge said was gratuitous.

After court, LaRuffa described the cross-examination as surreal.

"It's from the twilight zone," LaRuffa said. "Defendants aren't supposed to question you, and that's what happened."


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/102203dnnatsniper.99df5.html

18 posted on 10/22/2003 8:05:52 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: sonsofliberty2000; newgeezer
I can't understand how they can find anyone to defend a scumbag like this.

Yo Geeze, check out the chick with the shirt.
20 posted on 10/22/2003 8:14:37 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
I heard earlier today that extra security had been ordered for the proceedings since Muhammad is/was representing himself, and the judge had ordered Muhammad not to touch the rifle/evidence because it was unsettling to the victims and the other folks in the courtroom. Hubby immediately thought this was grounds for the defendant, when found guilty, to call for a mistrial. Now that the guy is no longer representing himself, I wonder what will happen. What a circus!
21 posted on 10/22/2003 8:14:40 AM PDT by petitfour
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Did he give the opening argument? I am guessing he did and now since he has basically got to testify without a cross examination he is quitting and letting his lawyers finish off the case. Plus he got the added bonus of terrorizing his victims again. Muhammed is toast anyway but the judge should have never let him represent himself.
34 posted on 10/22/2003 4:41:23 PM PDT by pepperhead
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