IDF intelligence: Saudis are asking Pakistan to deploy nuclear warheads on the Arabian peninsula

Haaretz News Ticker ^ | 10/21/2003

[yonif]

IDF intelligence chief: Saudis are asking Pakistan to deploy nuclear warheads on the Arabian peninsula

[AdamSelene235]

She is our "Kissinger"

Why did Kissinger resign his post as chairman of the 911 investigation? Some sort of business conflict with the slaughter of his fellow countrymen??

[Kenton]

make pre-emptive strikes on Mecca

I doubt that the Israelis would attack Mecca. It has no military significance. They'd hit the nuke facilities.

[Rutles4Ever]

I wasn't meaning "Mecca" proper. I was referring to the Middle East perceiving it as a direct strike on Islam.

[CaptIsaacDavis]

Define "side" -- if you mean Western Civilization and American national interests, the question is open to debate...

It was RICE who stripped Western Civ from the core curriculum at Stanford and who talks here about Huntington's thesis, but then came out recently to dispute it! in order to score a policy point against Rumsfeld over whether to attack radical Islam or "embrace" it in order to "democratize" the world and create a "global culture."

Hillary can pout from the sidelines, but Rice is bringing PC culture into WH decisions on war and peace.

From the Stanford web site…http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/report/news/june9/rice-69.html
The changes have not come without controversy, especially over what should constitute undergraduates' core requirements in the humanities. The debate over multiculturalism in Stanford's curriculum was played out both on campus and on the conservative editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal. "The argument that I have never bought on the conservative side is that the study of Western civilization ­ devoid of the study of all the other civilizations that helped to shape it ­ was the smart thing to do," Rice says. "Human history has been the story of clashes of civilizations and that is the interesting part about it. It is absolutely true that our political structures, our civic structures, come more from Western history than from almost anything else. But I think it is important to teach about clashes of civilizations and how they infected and affected each other and how certain civilizations have won out at certain times. I never understood the critique that you should teach only Western civilization. "On the other hand, I've never much liked the representational argument or the identity argument for the teaching of more than Western civilization ­ the 'I need to know about my culture' argument. Culture is something that many times can be adopted. I'm probably as comfortable with Russian culture as I am with almost any other culture. I think that you need to be able to cross cultural lines. I think that it is great that black history is being brought more into American history because my view is that Africans and Europeans landed here together and built this country together, and the separation of African culture and African history from American culture and American history is just ahistorical. If you're going to read and understand Frederick Douglass, then you'd better understand Thomas Jefferson, because that is who he was referencing." Stanford's new Introduction to the Humanities core, by introducing students to humanistic inquiry through literature, the arts, history and philosophy, allows students to see "how the methods of those different disciplines address important questions of human cultural identity and development that students will be able to mix and match for themselves," she said. At the same time, Rice allowed herself to say "something that probably wouldn't be very popular. I think that our students' basic knowledge of history ­ names, facts, places, what came first ­ is abysmal. Someplace ­ it's got to be either in high school or college ­ someone has to teach basic history. I've had too many students not be able to get Bismarck in the right century."

[txhurl]

Thanks. Your analyses are the only ones I trust.

[okie01]

Understand that I have no direct knowledge and, like everybody else, am only guessing. But I thank you for the kind words.

[SauronOfMordor]

The Pakis are supplying the nuclear materiel, the Chinese are still responsible for operating those intermediate-range missiles on Saudi territory.

Sounds like a good response would be for Israel to offer assistance to India on their nuke/missile programs

[SauronOfMordor]

We depend on Saudi Oil, and it is therefore why they are not scared of us, and why we do not criticize them much for terror.

We only depend on them until the Iraqi oil is fully flowing -- then they are toast.

I think we will make interesting discoveries when we get to the root of who is financing the people sabotaging the pipelines

[txhurl]

As I understand, SA has pulled hundreds of billions (~600?) from here in the last year and sunk it into Euro nations - who want to keep it - since we 'allowed' that Sept. 11 lawsuit to proceed and have not been real friendly with SA lately.

Could be they really ARE history (and toast). I hope.

[txhurl]

Your post is hard to read. Let's attempt to translate it?

Having American forces in Qatar, Bahrain and Djibouti doesn't make sense-we in SE Asia - this region are not dealing with Iraq here - most people here seem to think in that vein that is, our 'hood has no dog in this fight'?

-Saudi Arabia is the HOME OF Islam & I slamofascism - think bout the support one would get from Western Europe if he (he WHO?) were to attack The Vatican -the whole place (& wherever Muslims live) will explode - the solution would be to hit potential (&less venomous) allies like the Libyans & ofcourse America's most (insert sarcasm here?) valiant ally Pakistan - most of us Indians will support it as it is only a matter of time b4 the Pakis lob a nuke across here!!!!!!! you guys really believe that? Truly?

SO the way forward is to let the Xitement die down & see The Saudis pragmatically-isolating or hitting them will inflame the situation -defang them without touching them.

[Centurion2000]

Saudi Arabia is bound to provoke an equivlent to the Cuban Missile Crisis.