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Top 10 Most Dangerous Liberals 10-12 to 10-19
Patriot Paradox ^

Posted on 10/21/2003 5:53:51 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000

Here are the results of the First Top Ten Most Dangerous Liberal Panels Weekly Votes: For more info see this link: Most Dangerous Liberal Panel

This is also posted at Patriot Paradox:

10. Supreme Court 10 points

Flurry: "for making law rather than interpreting it. Rewritting the Constittution to suit their agenda"

9. Joseph Biden 11 points

"There's no clear articulation within this administration of what the goals, what the message is, what the plan is. You have this significant division within the administration between the Powells and the Rumsfelds."

8T. Madeline Albright 13 points

"America is much stronger in a multilateral system, we must be on the same side, work with other people in the world. It shouldn't be America versus the others," Albright said, speaking in French.

"It's difficult to be in France and criticise my government. But I'm doing so because Bush and the people working for him have a foreign policy that is not good for America, not good for the world," she said.

8T. LA Times 13 points

From King of Fools:

It is incredible the the LA Times paid someone to investigate an issue as petty as this. Hugh Hewitt has pointed out that the story was generated by the LA Times (General Casts War in Religious Terms) but that they gave the story to MSNBC so they could broadcast it first. Why would a newspaper, whose primary objective is the scoop the opposition, give their own story away to a rival and allow them to print it first? The only reason that comes to mind is that they (the LA Time) were trying to manufacture news.

7T. Ed Asner points

World Net Daily

7T. Florida Supreme Court 14 points

For refusing to hear the Terri Schiavo case

6. John Kerry 15 points

From Yahoo:

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry said on Sunday President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney should apologize for misleading the American people about the war in Iraq and called the international fighting force there a "fraud."

Kerry criticized Bush and Cheney for justifying the war, in part, by saying Iraq was "on the road" to building nuclear weapons, which the senator said has been proven not to be true.

5. CBS 16 points

"for their biased reporting on homeschooling" and "for their castigation of the Pope and his "many flaws" on what is surely the prelude to his death"

4. John Street 17 points

From ABC News:

PHILADELPHIA Oct. 20 — Mayor John Street gets polite applause when he talks about policy on the campaign trail these days. The big cheers come when he mentions the bug planted in his office by the FBI.

In the two weeks since news broke that Street was a subject of a federal investigation, Philadelphia's second black mayor has sought to cast himself as a man being persecuted because of his race, and the message appears to be resonating with black voters.

Stumping around the city this weekend two weeks ahead of the Nov. 4 election, Street received raucous ovations from supporters, who hollered approval when he said the investigation is nothing more than a Republican dirty trick.

3. Howard Dean 23 points

From Yahoo:

"President Bush has brought the Enron model from Texas to Washington," Dean said, repeating his pledge to repeal all of the president's tax cuts.

2. Hillary Clinton 36 points

2 reasons here:

From Yahoo News:

During her remarks, Sen. Clinton said the anti-gay marriage amendment is also being used to distract Americans from the nation's real problems.

"They'd rather talk about taking away rights and undermining the ability of Americans to live their own lives, to have their own families," said Clinton, "than to talk about the miserable economy, to talk about their miserable foreign policy, to talk about their rollback of environmental laws and workers' rights, education and health care!"

Then her 10-16 speech in Senate. Here are a few nuggets:

Nevertheless, I think it is clear, and it is not just a mistake, it is not just a wrong assessment--I think now it is clear that, for a combination of reasons, the administration gilded the lily, engaged in hyperbole, took whatever small nugget of intelligence that existed and blew it up into a mountain, in order, I suppose, to make the case more strongly and convincingly to the American people"...

"It is hard for me to really understand how this administration, led by many--from the Vice President to the Secretary of Defense to others who have been committed to overturning the regime of Saddam Hussein since they made the mistake of not going to Baghdad in the first gulf war--could be so ill prepared. How on Earth? These people have spent 10 years obsessing over Saddam Hussein and Iraq. One would think they knew what they would do when they arrived."




and number 1:
Ted Kennedy 60 points

Boston Globe

Ratcheting up his criticism of the war in Iraq, Senator Edward M. Kennedy accuses the Bush administration of telling "lie after lie after lie" to defend its policy in a fiery speech prepared for delivery today on the Senate floor.

"The trumped up reasons for going to war have collapsed," Kennedy says in a speech that underscores his opposition to President Bush's request for $87 billion to fund military operations and rebuilding in Iraq and Afghanistan. An advance copy of the speech was obtained by the Globe.



Others reciving points:

Bill Clinton 6
John Edwards 4
Patty Murrary 3
Gray Davis 7
Apathy 8
ACLU 9
Government of Tanzania 1
“Biker Bar” 2
Ken Hamblin 3
Bloomberg Conference Board 5
Texas State Senator Florence Shapiro 6
Matt Lauer 7
Albertson’s, Ralph’s and Vons Grocery Giants 9
ABC 9
Wash Post 8
NBC 6
Wesley Clark 5
Black Caucus 9
Ben Affleck 8
Al Franken 5
Arnold 6
Terry Gross of NPR 7
Chris Matthews 1
United Way 3
Dennis Kucinich 8
PIPA 7
Mike Farrell 6

Voters: Born Conservative, Flurry, ChewedGum, Lucky2, Scenic Sounds, sonsofliberty2000, Old Sarge, BlindedbyTruth, TaxRelief, hilaryrhymeswithrich

Points are accrued as such:

A number 1 vote counts as 10 points. All subsequent votes count in descending order all the way to 1 point.


TOPICS: Free Republic; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: africawatch; dangerousliberals; liberals; toptenliberals
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1 posted on 10/21/2003 5:53:52 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
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To: B.Bumbleberry; prarie earth; UnklGene; Cathryn Crawford; CholeraJoe; Chad Fairbanks; ...
Here are the results of the First Top Ten Most Dangerous Liberal Panels Weekly Votes: For more info see this link: Most Dangerous Liberal Panel If you want on or off this list just Freepmail me. If you have asked before tobe taken off and by accident show up again, have mercy. Please!!!!! To err is human, to forgive is divine!
2 posted on 10/21/2003 5:55:13 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000 (He is in heaven. If your messengers cannot find him there seek him in the other place yourself.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
ok I want in as a voting member.
3 posted on 10/21/2003 6:12:54 AM PDT by sauropod (Fry Mumia!)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
BUMP!

(I'm still recovering from watching HC on the Senate floor)
4 posted on 10/21/2003 6:14:22 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: sonsofliberty2000; JohnHuang2
This exercise demonstrates to liberals where they are scoring points against conservatives and the president.

I'm not sure it's helpful.

I already knew I didn't like Clinton, Kennedy, et al.

The only new thing here is OUR letting THEM know where they're drawing blood.
5 posted on 10/21/2003 6:18:19 AM PDT by xzins (And now I will show you the most excellent way!)
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To: xzins
The purpose of the list is to show where Liberals are saying or doing something DANGEROUS to the fabric of American morals or purposes. The points aren't giving them points for doing it. Think of it as a way to show how dangerous the statment is, and indicating to Conservatives where we need to attack and organize against. Drawing blood against Conservatives? No, draining life out of the US and we need to stop them.
6 posted on 10/21/2003 6:24:17 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000 (He is in heaven. If your messengers cannot find him there seek him in the other place yourself.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
As a conservative, I understand that the intention is ENTIRELY honorable. My concern is that it DOES provide ALSO a measure for where WE THINK they're drawing blood, and where they should keep up their attacks.

It would be nice to be able to compile the list, but then to make the dissemination of the list only to those on your side.

7 posted on 10/21/2003 6:29:56 AM PDT by xzins (And now I will show you the most excellent way!)
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To: xzins
You also must understand however that the list is compiled by people who post on this forum and to other posts that go 300 to 400 posts long talking about events that these different people say and do. This also would show they are drawing blood. The lists intentions are to focus attacks on the ones viewed each week to be most detrimental to the cause. At that point if we all just cried that they are hurting us we would show that they were dangerous to our cause. If we use the insight and info to go after them then we are compiling a list of enemies much like Bush did with his Axis of Evil speech, and then acting against them.
8 posted on 10/21/2003 6:35:49 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000 (He is in heaven. If your messengers cannot find him there seek him in the other place yourself.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Flurry also had a good argument about this on another thread the other day.
9 posted on 10/21/2003 6:50:43 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000 (He is in heaven. If your messengers cannot find him there seek him in the other place yourself.)
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To: sauropod
Very Good! I'll be sending you a Freepmail in a few. Welcome aboard!
10 posted on 10/21/2003 6:51:33 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000 (He is in heaven. If your messengers cannot find him there seek him in the other place yourself.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Interesting list. I personally would have ranked Biden higher due to his unconstitutional mess known as the RAVE Act.
11 posted on 10/21/2003 6:54:18 AM PDT by jmc813 (Ron Paul for President in '08!)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Good points.

What about the difference between raw intelligence (discussion on threads) versus processed intelligence (your list)?
12 posted on 10/21/2003 7:03:49 AM PDT by xzins (And now I will show you the most excellent way!)
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To: xzins
Please explain exactly where you are going and then I can respond.
13 posted on 10/21/2003 7:05:58 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000 (He is in heaven. If your messengers cannot find him there seek him in the other place yourself.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000; xzins
As much as I love my friend, xzins, I think it's a fabulous list. They're amassing an incredible indictment against their new brand of 'patriotism', IMHO.

Keep on EXPOSING THE LEFT.

14 posted on 10/21/2003 7:07:08 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: sonsofliberty2000; anniegetyourgun
It's not that I oppose the list....it's that I have concerns that it provides vital information to the enemies. That's my concern.

SonLiberty, please don't misunderstand. I commend the list and the effort. I'd just like to find a way to keep processed intelligence (last post) out of the hands of the opposition.

You said that they could get the info anyway just by reading the threads and comments here. I agree with that. But they'd have to boil it down and process it; and that takes time.

We have processed it for our own purposes, but I'm sure the opposition would find it very useful.

But I probably am just thinking that Free Republic has far more influence than it actually does. I doubt that demonRat leader's look at this site too often. (Probably just paranoia on my part.)
15 posted on 10/21/2003 7:12:59 AM PDT by xzins (And now I will show you the most excellent way!)
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To: xzins
When asked to participate, I had some concerns also. I didn't want to be part of a list that just hacks people that we disagree with. But sonso has made it focused where we are taking what the individuals are saying as dangerous.

It is a lot more constructive than just criticizing Hillary for her pantsuit (which is mean spirited and self demoting IMHO). I think the list turned out pretty well for the first week.

Gum

16 posted on 10/21/2003 7:15:13 AM PDT by ChewedGum (http://king-of-fools.com)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Bump
17 posted on 10/21/2003 7:18:27 AM PDT by 4mycountry (Here's to Bush '04, Mr. Limbaugh, the outlawing of speedos and the banning of kiddie animes! *glug*)
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To: xzins
Don't get my wrong as well. I understand where you are coming from. The list is voted on weekly by a number of Freepers who are just a slice of the FR masses. They go through posts, news papers and sites and then vote on who they think are the most detrimental to cause of Conservatism. My biggest argument against this being useful to Liberals is that they can easily go to any talk radio show, or thousands of bloggers as well as FR and easily see what they are talking about most. I am curious however to see what thoughts you have on improving the list to be better for the fight. My goal is to be as usful as possible in the next election and this is just one of many ideas I've had. I agree with Annie that this exposes the left rather then helps them and is an education tool.
18 posted on 10/21/2003 7:20:55 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000 (He is in heaven. If your messengers cannot find him there seek him in the other place yourself.)
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To: ChewedGum; sonsofliberty2000
see my #15

You are talking to one of God's own paranoid wonders. :>)
19 posted on 10/21/2003 7:27:05 AM PDT by xzins (And now I will show you the most excellent way!)
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To: xzins
see my 18 :o)
20 posted on 10/21/2003 7:30:26 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000 (He is in heaven. If your messengers cannot find him there seek him in the other place yourself.)
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