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Napolitano against AZ plan to send Mexican nationals locked up in AZ prisons south of the border
PhxNews ^ | By Barrett Marson ARIZONA DAILY STAR

Posted on 10/20/2003 10:55:59 AM PDT by hsmomx3

PHOENIX - Lawmakers are looking at reviving the idea of sending Mexican nationals locked up in Arizona prisons south of the border to serve the remainder of their sentences.

And it could come into play as the Legislature goes into a special session today on prison spending and crowding.

The move to ship Mexican inmates to Mexico could save millions for the state's strapped coffers but is drawing criticism from inmates' rights groups, and Gov. Janet Napolitano questions the benefits.

But Rep. Bill Konopnicki, a Safford Republican, says it would put Mexican prisoners closer to their families. "A fair amount of them would like to be home," he said.

Konopnicki is studying sentencing reform in advance of the special session.

Napolitano is asking for more than $26 million to cover the cost of housing an increasing number of inmates. The state prison system is about 4,200 inmates over capacity.

Konopnicki's group is looking at a variety of ways to cut down the prison population, including eliminating jail time while increasing the fine for those with multiple drunken-driving convictions.

Among the ideas that Konopnicki and others want addressed during the special session is looking at sending Mexican inmates to serve their sentences in their native land.

About 3,300 Mexican nationals are in state prisons at an annual cost of nearly $20,000 per inmate. That adds up to about $66 million a year.

Konopnicki said only some prisoners would be eligible for relocation. Those convicted of murder, rape and other violent crimes would remain in Arizona. But those locked up for drug and property crimes could be moved.

Mexican officials contacted about the proposal said they were unaware of the proposal's details and declined to comment.

A 1976 treaty on the execution of penal sentences between the U.S. and Mexico allows prisoners from either country to serve sentences for crimes committed in the neighboring country to serve out their sentences in their home country. That is when the conviction involves acts that are illegal in both countries, and where sentences and other penalties are similar.

The option to apply for transfers extends to both federal and state prisoners. Information on the number of prisoner transfers was not available.

Numerous hurdles must be overcome, including clearing up liability issues and ensuring inmates serve all their time in prison.

Caroline Isaacs, with the Tucson branch of the prison reform group American Friends Service Committee, a Quaker organization, said the idea is fraught with problems, including who is accountable for the prisoners.

"It simply would complicate the issue of who is ultimately responsible for the treatment and care of these folks and what accountability would they have to the state of Arizona," Isaacs said.

She also discounted the move would make it easier for prisoners to see family members, noting many have relatives in the United States.

The housing of prisoners could work one of two ways, Konopnicki and others say.

The prisoners could be transferred to a Mexican government facility, and the state would pay a fee at the end of the sentence.

"They save us money, but they get their people back," Konopnicki said. "That's their motivation."

Konopnicki plans to meet with Mexican officials this month about the idea.

The other option is a prison built and operated by a private company billing the state on a per diem basis that would likely be substantially less than the average in an Arizona prison.

Former prison chief Terry Stewart had been shopping an idea for a private prison in Mexico to house nationals. Stewart could not be reached for comment.

Dora Schrirro, head of the Arizona Department of Corrections, said she will take a look at the proposal.

"It's an interesting idea," Schrirro said. "Everything ought to be given some consideration. The question is whether there is authority."

Her boss isn't exactly thrilled with the idea, however.

"It's not something the governor is in favor of pursuing," said Napolitano's spokesman, Paul Allvin. "These will be wards of the state in Mexico. If they escape or hurt themselves or commit crimes, there is a huge liability issue for Arizona."

* Contact reporter Barrett Marson at (602) 271-0623 or at bmarson@azstarnet.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az; illegals; immigrantlist; napolitano

1 posted on 10/20/2003 10:55:59 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3
Ship 'em to Crawford, Texas.
See how mellow W's neighbors get.
2 posted on 10/20/2003 10:57:19 AM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: hsmomx3
Or she could pardon all non-violent drug offenders that are in jail and probably have 40% vacancy.
3 posted on 10/20/2003 11:04:30 AM PDT by xrp
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To: hsmomx3
I say parachute them into Mexico. I volunteer to pack the chutes.
4 posted on 10/20/2003 11:06:14 AM PDT by Migraine (my grain is pretty straight today)
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To: xrp
Hey, the message that gets sent is, you go to jail in Arizona, you wind up in a Mexicali prison! That's a deterrent for crime if you ask me!
5 posted on 10/20/2003 11:07:09 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: madfly; HiJinx
ping
6 posted on 10/20/2003 11:43:17 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: hsmomx3
"A 1976 treaty on the execution of penal sentences between the U.S. and Mexico allows prisoners from either country to serve sentences for crimes committed in the neighboring country to serve out their sentences in their home country. That is when the conviction involves acts that are illegal in both countries, and where sentences and other penalties are similar."

I did not know this. Seems this treaty could be used to pressure Mexico on illegal immigration in a big way. There are tens of thousands of illegals in American prisons. If we were to start shipping these crooks back to Mexico in a big way I think we could get their attention.
7 posted on 10/20/2003 12:08:35 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: hsmomx3
"...only some prisoners would be eligible for relocation. Those convicted of murder, rape and other violent crimes would remain in Arizona."

Sounds fine to me,
Plain pine box, simple burial, no grass means easy maintenance, could save millions.

8 posted on 10/20/2003 12:29:49 PM PDT by norton (Maybe you should leave on your own hombre)
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To: 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; A CA Guy; ...
Bump-Ping!!!
The Border List TM

Freepmail me if you wish to be removed from or added to this list!

9 posted on 10/20/2003 7:05:29 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about my granddaughter!)
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To: hsmomx3; Texas_Jarhead
Wow...Deja Vu all over again!

I heard the news report about 4200 more prisoners than beds, and asked myself how many of those 4200 are illegals and how many of them we could just ship home. Problem solved.

10 posted on 10/20/2003 7:18:15 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about my granddaughter!)
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To: HiJinx
Ship 'em home and land mine the border to keep 'em from coming back. America has enough freeloaders on its books without having to support illegal aliens too.

You have a new granddaughter? Congratulations!

11 posted on 10/20/2003 9:36:30 PM PDT by janetgreen (WRITE IN TOM TANCREDO FOR PRESIDENT IN '04)
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To: janetgreen
Land Mines!?!? Didn't we learn anything from Princess Di?
Armed soldiers, ok. The Berlin Wall and No-Man's Land? Nah.

Yes, she is our first, and was born on 10/09, two days before her Daddy's birthday. Boy, those two are gonna be something to watch!
12 posted on 10/20/2003 9:57:12 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about my granddaughter!)
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To: HiJinx
We had three sons, and our first grandchild was a GIRL! Buying little girl clothes was so much fun. She's a lovely 18 year old now. We're really proud of her.
13 posted on 10/20/2003 10:23:17 PM PDT by janetgreen (WRITE IN TOM TANCREDO FOR PRESIDENT IN '04)
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To: janetgreen
I can only imagine...my insides go all squishy every time I look at her...what's it going to be like 18 years from now?

Jeesh!

Gonna call it a night...see you tomorrow!
14 posted on 10/20/2003 10:26:26 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about my granddaughter!)
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To: HiJinx; FoxFang; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; CheneyChick; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
Tonight on Scarborough Joe mentioned the Philly Mayor saying do not cut off healthcare for illegals there!
15 posted on 10/21/2003 1:19:02 AM PDT by JustPiper (18 of 19 Hijackers had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: hsmomx3
Mexico would probably let them loose anyhow and they'll come right back and commit more crimes. Maybe we should put them in chain-gangs and do some hard work ---- it's good rehab. If not hard work, there is a lot of litter to be picked up, graffiti to be cleaned off walls, bathrooms to clean.
16 posted on 10/21/2003 6:28:12 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ; hsmomx3; JustPiper
What we need is a one-two punch...

Anything less is a waste of time, but...
I believe the above can be done for a whole lot less than $26 Million.

17 posted on 10/21/2003 11:17:47 AM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about my granddaughter!)
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