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Bush camp snubs Chrétien — again
The Toronto Star ^ | 10/20/03 | Alexander Panetta

Posted on 10/20/2003 8:26:54 AM PDT by Modernman

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Chretien has thrown away 100 years of Canadian-American friendship. He should have been in DC the day after 9/11 and should have definitely been sitting next to Tony Blair at Bush's State of the Union speech that week. Don't even get me started on Iraq. The Canadian military was chomping at the bit to go fight in Iraq, but Chretien decided to keep them home.

As an ex-patriate Canuck, I'm ashamed of the Canadian government.

Bumper Sticker seen on an 18-wheeler with Alberta plates: Friends Don't Let Friends Fight Alone- God Bless America.

1 posted on 10/20/2003 8:26:55 AM PDT by Modernman
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To: Modernman
Bush to Chretien- "Bleau mi."
2 posted on 10/20/2003 8:29:03 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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That's cool. You can hang out in the states with us.
3 posted on 10/20/2003 8:29:45 AM PDT by military cop
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Chretien has thrown away 100 years of Canadian-American friendship.

One jackass can't do that. We will just bide our time until the Canadian population wakes up, or some western provinces come aboard as US states, whichever comes first.

4 posted on 10/20/2003 8:30:36 AM PDT by Monti Cello
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That's cool. You can hang out in the states with us.

As a conservative Canadian, I'm claiming political refugee status :-)

5 posted on 10/20/2003 8:30:39 AM PDT by Modernman ("In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women."-Homer)
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Granted.

Welcome.
6 posted on 10/20/2003 8:31:21 AM PDT by military cop
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Bumper Sticker seen on an 18-wheeler with Alberta plates: Friends Don't Let Friends Fight Alone- God Bless America.

Well that's Alberta. Probably won't see many of those in Chretien's Quebec. Probably not many in Toronto either.

I agree with you about Chretien. The man almost single-handedly turned Canada from our Friendly Northern Neighbor into Frozen France in the mind of the average American. It's not that the U. S. now sees Canada as an enemy. But they also no longer think of Canada as much of a friend, and that's rather remarkable.

7 posted on 10/20/2003 8:34:48 AM PDT by Snuffington
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We will just bide our time until the Canadian population wakes up, or some western provinces come aboard as US states, whichever comes first.

Here's hoping. My experience, which is purely anecdotal, is that a lot of Canadians feel that the Chretien government's stand on Iraq only hurt Canada- they haven't acquired any new friends in the world and have pissed off their neighbor and biggest trading partner. They're starting to wonder what the point was in pissing off the US. Nobody was expecting Canada to send an armored division, but some special forces to hunt scuds or some military police to escort convoys would have gone a long way towards healing any rift.

8 posted on 10/20/2003 8:34:51 AM PDT by Modernman ("In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women."-Homer)
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The man almost single-handedly turned Canada from our Friendly Northern Neighbor into Frozen France

Ouch. I wish there was some way to rebut that statement, but I fear it's true.

There is some hope, though. The two Canadian conservative parties (the Alliance and the Progressive Conservatives) look like they finally might be able to pull off a merger. Alliance is the bigger party and is based in the West. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

9 posted on 10/20/2003 8:37:45 AM PDT by Modernman ("In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women."-Homer)
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What is the phrase, "Lead, follow, or get the H*ll out of the way" supposed to mean, if the entity at which it is directed refuses to understand?
10 posted on 10/20/2003 8:42:20 AM PDT by alloysteel
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Immigration has radically changed the character of Canada and should be an object lesson to the USA.

Canadians now have a buffoon for a leader, but no one in Montreal, Ottowa or Toronto cares.

Thus, Canada east of Saskatchewan, like Burundi or Sikkim, is irrelevant.
11 posted on 10/20/2003 8:42:37 AM PDT by gaspar
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I don't know that this was a deliberate snub. I could be that Bush was busy visiting Asians while in Asia and just didn't have time to chat with Charles de Gaulle.
12 posted on 10/20/2003 8:48:49 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Then you introduce them to my favorite phrase: "Trample the weak, hurdle the dead."
13 posted on 10/20/2003 8:53:00 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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The Canadian government use to fit the USA like a comfortable old shoe. Now that shoe is pinching toes. You know how grumpy one can get when the feet hurt. It's time to put those shoes back in the box. Better yet, give them to Good Will and let someone else try them on for size.
14 posted on 10/20/2003 9:00:57 AM PDT by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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What's a "Chrétien?"
15 posted on 10/20/2003 9:30:51 AM PDT by ellery
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"Trample the weak, hurdle the dead."

I like it. It is so, well, Imperial Rome. You may have started something evolving here....

16 posted on 10/20/2003 12:32:40 PM PDT by alloysteel
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To: ellery
Main Entry: cre·tin
Pronunciation: 'krE-t&n
Function: noun
Etymology: French crétin, from French dialect cretin, literally, wretch, innocent victim, from Latin christianus Christian
Date: 1779
1 : one afflicted with cretinism
2 : a stupid, vulgar, or insensitive person : CLOD, LOUT
- cre·tin·ous /-t&n-&s/ adjective
17 posted on 10/20/2003 12:56:16 PM PDT by Eagle74
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Many of us are old enough to remember the days when we felt valued by our Canadian neighbors who risked all to smuggle some of our embassy personnel from Iran out of the country during the hostage crisis. But that was before Canada started having all these French prime ministers. Can't you guys convince those idiots that MONTCALM LOST?!?!?!?!?
18 posted on 10/20/2003 2:37:05 PM PDT by Keith
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Sorry but Trudeau was PM then and he was every bit as anti-American as Chretien. The decision to hide the Americans was made on the ground by the Canadian ambassador to Iran, literaly when the US diplomatic personel showed up on his doorstep. So they were already Canada's responsiblity when Ottawa found out about it. The US may have been very disappointed if the decision was made in Ottawa instead of Iran (We'd really like to help but we can't maybe if you go see the British...)
The problem Chretien faces is that Americans now pay attention to what others say about them.
19 posted on 10/20/2003 4:17:04 PM PDT by Cdnexpat (Mr Bush, please don't speak to any member of a Liberal government on any topic.)
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If not, we'll meet in pull-asides

Oh yeah? Pull on this

20 posted on 10/20/2003 4:30:57 PM PDT by paul51
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