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God urging me on, says 'gay' bishop -
The Telegraph - UK ^ | October 20, 2003

Posted on 10/19/2003 8:47:50 PM PDT by UnklGene

God urging me on, says 'gay' bishop - (Filed: 20/10/2003)

The Episcopal Church's first openly gay bishop-elect said yesterday that he is agonising over the turmoil his election is causing but believes God wants him to go forward.

"This is one of the hardest things I'll ever do," said the Rev Gene Robinson at Grace Church, Manchester, New Hampshire. "I do have this sense I'm supposed to go forward, and I do feel that's coming from God and not my own ego."

Rev Gene Robinson Rev Robinson was elected by clergy and parishioners in New Hampshire in June and confirmed by the national Episcopal Church in August. He is scheduled to be consecrated as bishop of New Hampshire in two weeks. His election and confirmation has outraged some conservatives and is threatening to divide the Episcopal Church in the United States and the worldwide Anglican Communion, of which it is part.

At an emergency meeting at Lambeth Palace, in London, last week Anglican leaders warned that if Rev Robinson was consecrated as planned on Nov 2, "the future of the communion itself will be put in jeopardy".

Rev Robinson, 56, who was accompanied by a police officer yesterday, remains optimistic about the Church's future, saying it has weathered similar crises in the past.

Anglican leaders, representing 77 million members worldwide, say homosexuality is "contrary to Scripture". Mr Robinson says that is outweighed by the Scripture's call for love and acceptance of all.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: aac; delusions; episcopal; fallout; homosexualbishop
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To: drstevej
I did not need the visual. Ewwwwww! ;-)
61 posted on 10/20/2003 7:34:56 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: ModelBreaker; Gamecock
Look! Another one of us...... ;-)
62 posted on 10/20/2003 7:36:05 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: CARepubGal; Gamecock
Look! Another one of us...... ;-)

Do you mean another PCA'er? It's a great denomination. It's surprising how many of us pop up FR.

63 posted on 10/20/2003 9:30:17 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Ok, I REALLY shouldn't find that funny, since it is seriously irreverent, but.......BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
64 posted on 10/20/2003 9:31:47 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: ModelBreaker
I'm a ROman Catholic who admires the PCA very much. You guys are orthodox and Pro-Life and the very best kind of Protestants. May more bridges be built between orthodox Christians in the Catholic Church and orthodox Christians in denominations like PCA.
65 posted on 10/20/2003 9:34:41 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Politicalmom
Heh heh heh ;0)
66 posted on 10/20/2003 9:37:43 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Francis Scott Key was a One-Hit Wonder)
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To: ModelBreaker; Gamecock
Actually I am OPC presumptive, The two are apparently very similar. Just nice to see more Reformed folks around. If (when?) I move, a good OPC or PCA is what I want to find.
67 posted on 10/20/2003 9:45:44 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: UnklGene

He needa to convert to Islam . . .

cuz he's already obeying Alahhhh !!!

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68 posted on 10/20/2003 9:49:33 PM PDT by GeekDejure
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To: utahagen; CARepubGal; Gamecock
I'm a ROman Catholic who admires the PCA very much. You guys are orthodox and Pro-Life and the very best kind of Protestants. May more bridges be built between orthodox Christians in the Catholic Church and orthodox Christians in denominations like PCA.

Thanks. I have trouble understanding most denominational disputes. If folks would just read the Bible, the proper manner of teaching in a Christian Church is really quite clear on almost all important subjects. Most reform congregations (like CalRepubGal's OPC and my PCA, and, though I know less about it, orthodox Romans) come to much the same place, with minor differences because of this.

You have to stretch and strain to rationalize most of the modern heresies. And, at heart, the heretics know they must reject explicit parts of the Scriptures to justify their behavior. That's why they are heretics, no?

It's not that God couldn't change things if He wanted to--after all, Christ was a huge change in the relationship of man and God. But Christ said his was the final covenant.

So before I believe that God has decided to make homosexual acts OK, I would want to hear a lot more evidence of such a change than 'Mrs.' Robinson's belief that God is urging him/her to become a bishop.

Something on the line of his death and resurrection might make me take a second look at the subject--something I'm not expecting or hoping for anytime soon.

69 posted on 10/20/2003 10:16:20 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: CARepubGal
Well, I used to be a CalRepubGuy. If you decide to move to Colorado, let me know and my wife and I will have you over for dinner and introduce you around. Jefferson County (the western suburbs of Denver) is loaded with great, bible based churches. I meet Christians everywhere I go who aren't afraid to talk about it. It's a really nice change from LA and Oakland.
70 posted on 10/20/2003 10:20:59 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker; utahagen; Gamecock
One cool thing I saw Sunday (played tourist after church and visited Old Town which includes a very nice 19th century RC Church) was the prolife literature in the narthex (think that is the name of the area just inside the main doors of the church). I think that would be interesting and beneficial.
71 posted on 10/20/2003 10:27:27 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: ModelBreaker
Thanks for the offer! Serious question: how are housing costs and jobs out there? I had friends who lived off I-570 (I think) and loved the area. ;-)
72 posted on 10/20/2003 10:29:10 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: CARepubGal
Housing is really cheap compared to Calif. You can get a nice, big house in a nice suburb for $250,000. I couldn't touch my house in LA or the Bay Area for less than $375-$400.

Jobs are dicier, depending on what you do. Tech is still slow because the Telecoms took such a hit in the Clinton recession. If you are a senior Telecom marketing official, and have a job, I'd say stay where you are for a while :)

73 posted on 10/20/2003 10:38:56 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: CARepubGal
One cool thing I saw Sunday (played tourist after church and visited Old Town which includes a very nice 19th century RC Church) was the prolife literature in the narthex . . .

St Francis of Assisi (near us) has a large vacant tract across the street from their church. Each year, for about a week, they have a display of 400 crosses with a sign that memorializes the 4,000 children killed by abortion every day. I have a hard time driving by it.

Interestingly, it has never been defaced, which would have happened almost immediately where I used to live in California.

74 posted on 10/20/2003 10:42:12 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: CARepubGal; ModelBreaker; irishtenor
YEEE-HAW (very restrained of course)

Always good to see more PCA folks here in the religious slums!
75 posted on 10/21/2003 4:30:28 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: ModelBreaker; CARepubGal
I am quite thankful that the Senate voted to outlaw late term abortions today.

It is a step in the right direction. Continue to pray for our nation, that we will come to our senses.
76 posted on 10/21/2003 4:40:43 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock
Nice to meet you. PCA is great!
77 posted on 10/21/2003 7:24:47 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: UnklGene
(Mutter)
78 posted on 10/21/2003 7:25:45 PM PDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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To: DLfromthedesert
Exactly what my sentiments were.

And they shall call good evil, and evil good

79 posted on 10/21/2003 7:27:18 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Gamecock; ModelBreaker; irishtenor; OrthodoxPresbyterian
LOLOL!
80 posted on 10/21/2003 9:21:00 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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