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To: rightcoast
"In many ways, their beliefs are justified, if even accurate. Many wars are fought over religious beliefs. Many conflicts begin over religion. So in that respect, I tend to agree. Religion does breed conflict. However, what would you replace it with?"

IMHO, this is one of the biggest red-heerings used to assault religion. While there is no-doubt a bloody history that exists when it comes to religion, it is not the Faith that is at fault but those who would use that Faith to advance a political agenda. Religion and one's beliefs were one of the easiest ways to consolidate power to advance and agenda of control.

Unfortunately, religion is no different than any other belief, that brings together people with common cause to advance that agenda. The secular/anti-religious movement is as much a religion as any faith-based movement. It is also no different from those who believe in socialism and communism, as they advance agenda's based on their own philosophical beliefs. While they may not have a Diety they look to for wisdom, they themselves replace that Diety with man...and the rule of State.

Interestingly, with as much blood that has been spilled in the name of religion, even more has been spilled in the name of these pseudo-religions that spite God. It is also ironic, that it has been Man that has corrupted these Faith-based ideals and not the belief, itself. It has been those, who have used the power of religion and perverted these beiefs to advance their own causes. We saw this with the early Roman Catholic Church and Popes as they used religion to influence the governance of foreign countries...just as we see this being done in Islam, today. But again, I say that it is not the Faith that is at fault but those who would abuse that Faith. While you may be able to get rid of God, you would still not get rid of the violence that "Man" is responsible for. We would just find a different reason to fight each other.
13 posted on 10/19/2003 10:43:03 AM PDT by cwb
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To: cwboelter
But again, I say that it is not the Faith that is at fault but those who would abuse that Faith. While you may be able to get rid of God, you would still not get rid of the violence that "Man" is responsible for. We would just find a different reason to fight each other.

Of course it's the Faith that is at fault. Islam teaches, over and Over and OVER, to KILL THE INFIDEL, lie to him, betray him, wait for him in ambush wherever you see him, chop off his fingers, toes, hands, feet, arms, legs, ears, tongues, heads, etc., etc., etc.!!! Would you call that a faultless faith??? Only if you are a Muzzle-em!!!

In stark contrast the Christian Bible teaches The Ten Commandments and love and forgiveness!!!

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33 posted on 10/19/2003 11:30:38 AM PDT by GeekDejure
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