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Concurrent Pay for Retired Military that are Disabled Veterans
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Posted on 10/18/2003 11:25:16 PM PDT by Hondo1952

RETIRED PAY TO BE RESTORED FOR UP TO 200,000 DISABLED

Congress and the Bush administration have agreed to a $22.1 billion deal over 10 years that will pare back dramatically a century-old ban on ``concurrent receipt'' of both military retired pay and tax-free disability compensation for injuries or illnesses traced to time in service. Up to 200,000 disabled retirees with 20 or more years of service, including reserve and National Guard annuitants, will see their incomes rise, for many by hundreds or even thousands of dollars a month. The deal, expected to be passed as part of the 2004 defense authorization bill, targets combat-related disabled and the most severely disabled with non-combat injuries or illnesses. In effect, they no longer will see retired pay reduced by amounts they receive in disability compensation from the Department of Veterans Affairs. Congressional leaders announced the agreement Oct. 16 at a Capitol Hill press conference after weeks of negotiations between senior House Republicans, the White House and, finally, with Senate Republican leaders. The deal, outlined here last week, effectively divides 550,000 disabled military retirees with 20 or more years of service into three categories and boosts the monthly income of two of them. They are: COMBAT-RELATED DISABLED -- Retirees with combat-related disabilities, regardless of severity, would become eligible Jan. 1, 2004, for Combat-Related Special Compensation. CRSC, an income replacement program begun last June, no longer would be limited to retirees with combat-related disabilities rated at least 60 percent. CRSC is not retired pay but replaces retired pay lost when retirees begin drawing VA disability compensation. Unlike retired pay, however, CRSC payments are tax exempt. Disabilities will be judged ``combat related'' if resulting from armed conflict, combat training, hazardous duties or an ``instrumentality of war,'' which can include Gulf War illnesses and ailments from exposure to Agent Orange, radiation, mustard gas or lewisite. Persons suffering Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder also can be eligible if PTSD is shown to be combat-related. CONCURRENT RECEIPT FOR SERIOUSLY DISABLED - Retirees with disabilities rated 50 percent or higher would see reductions in retired pay from accepting VA compensation restored over 10 years. The first installment, on Jan. 1, 2004, was expected to be $750 a month for 100-percent disabled, $500 for 90 percent, $350 for 80 percent, $250 for 70 percent, $125 for 60, and $100 for 50 percent. Disabilities do not have to be combat-related. Indeed, retirees with a mix of combat-related and non-combat disabilities will have to choose whether to accept tax-free CRSC for combat-related ailments alone, or allow retired pay to be restored through phase in of concurrent receipt. They will not be able to receive payments under both programs. Steve Strobridge, director of government relations for the Military Officers Association of America, said it's too early to know how Defense officials will administer the programs. Retirees certainly will get help in determining whether they are better off applying for CRSC or accepting concurrent receipt. But some having a mix of combat and non-combat related disabilities could see the better choice change from year to year, particularly during the 10-year phase-in, and as disabilities are reevaluated and tax income rises or falls. Perhaps retirees will be allowed to select what program they want to be under from year to year, he said. A rough estimate is that 200,000 disabled retirees will benefit from the deal to include reserve and National Guard members. Under CRSC, they no longer will face a hurdle of 7200 retirement points to qualify. LIMITED BAN REMAINS -- Left out are retirees with no combat-related disabilities and their other VA disabilities below 50 percent. They will continue to see retired pay reduced by an amount to match VA disability pay.

PRESIDENTIAL COMMISSION - House leaders insisted that the deal include a presidential commission next year to study VA and military disability programs and to recommend reforms. That could include tightening rules for future generations of veterans but a dramatic change would not be pre-determined as under an earlier draft agreement by House Republicans. It was not clear whether potential savings from such a review already were anticipated in calculating the cost of the deal. But lawmakers last week talked about a $30 billion price tag over 10 years. For eligible retirees, the agreement is a stunning victory, given last year's veto threat by the Bush administration and continued opposition to relaxing the ban on concurrent receipt from senior Defense officials. Negotiations were led Reps. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), majority whip, and Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.), chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. Rep. Michael Bilirakis (R-Fla.) was a key player, having led the fight for concurrent receipt for years. Even Republicans acknowledged a critical push toward a deal from Rep. Jim Marshall (D-Ga.) who sought to force a vote on a full concurrent receipt bill through use of a rare discharge petition. With Republicans Walter Jones' (N.C.) and Tom Tancredo (Colo.) having already signed the petition, House leaders got serious about a deal. Factors behind the White House reversal on this issue could include Bush's recent slide in opinion polls, a veto threat judged against his request for $87 billion to rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan, and a rising tide of angry letters and email from disabled retirees with an election only a year away. Rep. Lane Evans of Illinois, ranking Democrat on the House Committee on Veterans' Affairs, urged veterans' groups to reject the deal because not all disabled retirees will benefit. ``This is no victory for veterans,'' he said.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: dav; disabledveterans; dod; retiredmilitary; va; veterans
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These promises have been made in the past maybe they are finally going to come true.
1 posted on 10/18/2003 11:25:16 PM PDT by Hondo1952
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To: MoJo2001; No More Gore Anymore; Charlie33; rangerwife; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Radix; tomkow6; ...
Finally some good news for veterans.
2 posted on 10/18/2003 11:39:21 PM PDT by Hondo1952 (Everyone has a photographic memory...some people just don't have any film.)
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Well, I'm glad to hear this, Hondo. I'm rated 50% disabled, but none of my little hurts are combat-related. I don't care much if I get any money, I'm doing ok, but those guys who got maimed in combat or combat exercises, it's about damn time they got something a little xtra from their country. We can give free everything to illegals when they come here, even though many of them have contempt for our way of life, but we deny the real defenders a reward for their service. I hope this is true also.
3 posted on 10/18/2003 11:39:54 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Hondo1952
I think it is great that this finally happened. It was really a shame that these veterans had to PAY for their own disability. I think they paid for it enough already.
4 posted on 10/18/2003 11:40:49 PM PDT by Kimlee
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To: Hondo1952
Concurrent Pay needs to be made law this year, it is way way overdue.
5 posted on 10/18/2003 11:43:46 PM PDT by Reagan79 (Pro Life! Pro Family! Pro Reagan!)
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I'm 80% and retired with 24 years. I haven't seen a retirement check in 9 years. It's way overdue. I haven't worked since January of this year and that money would make a huge difference to me. There are others that need it much, much worse than I do though.
6 posted on 10/18/2003 11:47:10 PM PDT by Hondo1952 (Everyone has a photographic memory...some people just don't have any film.)
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To: Hondo1952
Bump for good news for disabled vets.
7 posted on 10/18/2003 11:47:58 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: FlyVet
Bump for good news for disabled vets again.
8 posted on 10/18/2003 11:50:19 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Hondo1952; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; LindaSOG; LaDivaLoca; bentfeather; Bethbg79; Iowa Granny; ...
Good News for Vets PING!

Hondo1952 : Thanks for posting this!
9 posted on 10/19/2003 12:57:11 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (THANK YOU TROOPS, PAST and PRESENT)
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To: FlyVet
Still,there are many under 50% who are left out. They are still paying for their own disability. Why was the line not at 35 or 25?
Budget.
10 posted on 10/19/2003 5:26:10 AM PDT by larryjohnson (USAF(Ret))
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To: Hondo1952
I truly pray this goes through! It may be too late for some folks, but at least the rest can live with a bit more dignity.
11 posted on 10/19/2003 5:53:45 AM PDT by bluesagewoman
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
bump
12 posted on 10/19/2003 6:16:59 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (~Poets' Rock the Boat~)
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To: Hondo1952
bump
13 posted on 10/19/2003 6:17:54 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (~Poets' Rock the Boat~)
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To: Hondo1952
bump to the top
14 posted on 10/19/2003 6:18:27 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (~Poets' Rock the Boat~)
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To: Hondo1952
I'll believe it when the Pesident puts his "john hanncock" on it. It has to pass the house and gutless senate. Besides when has congress ever kept their word to the vets!
I an at 60% and and ssd [100%] my wife had to go back to work and we have 2 kids, [one age 9 & one age 6 (with Down Syndrome)]I am now the "stay at home parent" and it is very hard getting paid like we do. The va is just as political as any other dept. They have to justify their jobs to stay there.

Yes I am very angery about the va, and unless we a drastic change in leadership, the policy will never change!
15 posted on 10/19/2003 6:57:56 AM PDT by Knightsofswing (sic semper tranyis [death to tryants!!] & also improvise, adapt,&overcome)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Hondo1952
Thanks for the ping, Tonk.

All I can say is, "It's about time!"

16 posted on 10/19/2003 7:03:45 AM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Hondo1952
Support our Vets bump!
17 posted on 10/19/2003 8:04:18 AM PDT by F-117A
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To: Knightsofswing
I hope this time he actually does it. This was promised to the DAV prior to the last Congressional elections in return for the veteran vote. We kept our word, they didn't.

I lost my family over this thing. Being unable to work and being married to a demoncrat is not a combination for a happy family. I did the stay at home dad thing and loved it, but she didn't.

Personally I can't complain about the VA too much. Their way of determining disability ratings is really screwed up, but they have taken care of me very well at the hospital here.
18 posted on 10/19/2003 8:59:53 AM PDT by Hondo1952 (Everyone has a photographic memory...some people just don't have any film.)
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To: larryjohnson
Probably budget and nothing else. We can give money to people that have never done anything to earn it, but the veterans are at the bottom of the list.

We sacrificed before, we won't mind doing it again. That seems to be the government attitude.
19 posted on 10/19/2003 9:01:52 AM PDT by Hondo1952 (Everyone has a photographic memory...some people just don't have any film.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Disabled Veterans ~ Bump!
20 posted on 10/19/2003 9:03:01 AM PDT by blackie
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