Eight Marines Charged in Iraq Death

Washington Post ^ | Saturday, October 18, 2003; 12:12 PM | AP

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CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. - Eight Marine reservists stationed at Camp Pendleton have been charged in connection with the June death of an Iraqi man who was held at a detention facility in Iraq, authorities said.

Two of the men, Maj. Clark A. Paulus and Lance Cpl. Christian Hernandez, face negligent homicide charges, said staff Sgt. Bill Lisbon, a Marine spokesman at Camp Pendleton. Charges against the other six range from assault to dereliction of duty.

"I think it's surprising because this is not what Marines do," Lisbon said Friday. "They don't do what these guys are being charged with."

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Oh oh!

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[Chad Fairbanks]

Well, the "American" media will be all over this, of course - day in, day out, and the sheep will blindly follow them as they ignore all the good that has been done...

Go figure.

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Well, the "American" media will be all over this, of course - day in, day out, and the sheep will blindly follow them as they ignore all the good that has been done...

Exactly the reason for my "Oh oh" comment. The liberal press will ignore facts and hang 'um high.

[sgtbono2002]

Looking for a Few Good Scapegoats.

[ambrose]

Send in Tommy Lee Jones. He'll save 'em.

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IF guilty, they need to be charged. At least our military enforces the law and doesn't allow such things to go unpunished. Unlike Saddam's.

[Lijahsbubbe]

So we'll punish our guys for the death of one of our enemies. An enemy who would likely cut the soldiers' throats if given half a chance.

Meanwhile, as another military vehicle explodes.....

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Hard to call on this one.

Meanwhile, as another military vehicle explodes.....

War is hell, combat is a MF and this $h!t is horrible.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

I can't wait for the media speculation and spec int groups press releases about all the war crimes that the US is "hiding" or "getting away with".

The 'tip of the iceberg' smear.

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John Kerry will probably give empassioned and entirely fictitious speeches to his cohorts in congress about alleged US war crimes.

[Lijahsbubbe]

War is hell, combat is a MF and this $h!t is horrible

I can't begin to imagine. All I know is I pick our soldiers over their criminals anytime. Even the dishonorable ones.

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This isn't the one I've most had my eye on, but it's not at all good news for the Marines. And it could open the door for the other bad news for the Army from Afghanistan.

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[Lijahsbubbe]

I just don't see the need to prove our honor to Arab murderers. They already know we have a duty to justice, and they use it against us to destroy us further.

[archy]

We should probably just stop even having putting our guys through the stress of a trial

Not necessarily. Once they're charged and either found innocent or found guilty of a much lesser offence with an often-suspended sentence, followed by a personnel transfer to a plum duty spot like Hawaii or the defendant's choice locale, they can never again be tried for the same offense again- at least so long as the US constitution overrides the UCMJ.

We had a similar policy for guards who shot intruders in the motor pool, while post Finance office guards or acting as military court bailiffs, whether it was a either foreign national or anher GI, often intoxicated, who'd been shot. They'd be initially charged with a negligent homicide unless every regulastion and scrap of procedure was followed to the letter, but the charge would be dropped to an unauthorized discharge of a weapon and the shooter would be assessed a five-dollar fine, to be taken by allotment from his paycheck. But they'd receive a carton of PX smokes after the court proceedings had ended, and for those who didn't smoke, there'd be a couple of *chit* coupons for dinners at the EM or NCO club to make up for meals missed during court proceedings, and $20 or so of comp drink chits or other freebies would be *accidentally* included.

What they couldn't have known back then is that now, the feds consider anyone so charged and convicted of an offence that *could* have carried a sentence of more than a year's imprisonment to now be a convicted felon. And many will be unable to pass the Federal *Brady Bill* background check for a lawful firearms purchase for the rest of their lives because of it.

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[GoGophers]

If it is an Iraqi, it is our enemy. They are not even human.

Take your racist nonsense elsewhere.

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THAT is really TERRIBLE. Shame on you.

[OldFriend]

IMHO, the Marines deserve a medal.

[PISANO]

So we'll punish our guys for the death of one of our enemies. An enemy who would likely cut the soldiers' throats if given half a chance

While I have a VERY HARD time NOT agreeing with you....HONOR comes right after DUTY and (if true) these charges leave HONOR in the desert torture chambers of Saddam.