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The Coconut Telegraph ^ | 10/18/2003 | Luis Gonzalez

Posted on 10/17/2003 10:38:34 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez

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To: Luis Gonzalez
10 years from now there will be a major league team in a free Cuba. What will the name be?
61 posted on 10/18/2003 9:01:03 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Street --- "Show me the money!")
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To: doug from upland
The same as they are named now, and some of the older names will probably be brought back.

http://www.cubanball.com/teams.html
62 posted on 10/18/2003 9:05:25 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: doug from upland
By the way, there will be MANY major league teams in Cuba, not just one.
63 posted on 10/18/2003 9:06:05 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I see "Colon" on that list. Please tell me they won't be named the Colons. That's pretty crappy.
64 posted on 10/18/2003 9:10:05 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Street --- "Show me the money!")
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Luis....I was a Brooklyn Dodger fan as a child......I hate the Yankees. I love a team that can beat them.


Go Fish!
65 posted on 10/18/2003 9:27:44 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Brillllliant!
66 posted on 10/18/2003 9:55:16 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Interesting.

You are OK with legalizing marijuana but oppose further lessening of drug criminalization.

To your credit, you describe this position as hypocritical.

In the next post to me you say:

By the way. Your tagline has a tremendous fallacy. There is c) both.

This is a clue to the source of your dilemma. If your positions are not based on principle, inconsistencies will inevitably occur.

Regards

J.R.

67 posted on 10/19/2003 5:41:53 AM PDT by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
This must have been an interesting thread, bu I seem to have missed it. I have never seen so many post pulled on so short a thread.
68 posted on 10/19/2003 5:57:31 AM PDT by js1138
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To: NMC EXP
Your problem is that your b) should really say MY principles.

I don't have to vote according to YOUR principles, I vote according to mine, and you don't get to either set them in place, nor do you get to place yours above them.
69 posted on 10/19/2003 7:26:18 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: NMC EXP
As long as we're doing a bit of a Q & A here, you could tell me your position on drugs such as nicotine and alcohol being legal for consumption.
70 posted on 10/19/2003 7:55:59 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I am very confused.

By this article.

Even though I understood it.

71 posted on 10/19/2003 10:55:44 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Red Sox in 2004)
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To: JohnnyZ
Well, then just wait until the presidential debates.
72 posted on 10/19/2003 11:27:25 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: js1138
I would say.. Seems the theory about a small dose of truth crashes down many houses at work in this thread. Well that and parentless children...

Awesome article. I am an old time O's fan so not much chance of any articles of cosequence being written about them for a loooong time.
73 posted on 10/19/2003 11:30:10 AM PDT by Shanty Shaker
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I don't have to vote according to YOUR principles, I vote according to mine

True. But a political party is not a principle.

...you don't get to either set them in place, nor do you get to place yours above them.

Principle is meaningful only when it is applied consistently. And that it not just my opinion.

As long as we're doing a bit of a Q & A here, you could tell me your position on drugs such as nicotine and alcohol being legal for consumption.

I would add caffeine to the list. In my opinion these and all other mood altering substances should be legal.

People who use them are harming only themselves. So long as they don't harm anyone else in the process there is no problem.

People raise the "cost to society" argument implying that taxpayers foot the medical bill for drug and alcohol abusers and that impaired drivers cause accidents.

These are separate issues. No one is rightfully responsible for the medical care of a stranger and I gave up on the DUI issue when I realized it was impossible to rationalize jailing a person with a 0.80 BAC and letting a person with a 0.7999 BAC drive home from the sobriety checkpoint.

Regards

J.R.

74 posted on 10/19/2003 4:22:19 PM PDT by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: NMC EXP
"Principle is meaningful only when it is applied consistently."

And that is what creates a political party, many people applying principles consistently.

What appears to confuse you, is the idea that many people may share similar principles, that they may be willing to seek compromise with like-minded individuals and sequentially balance those principles in a manner which places not allowing those gathered together in a party with principles that stand in radical opposition of their own, to gain political offices, and as such, political power, ahead of all other principles, is in fact a principle in and of itself.

75 posted on 10/19/2003 4:46:39 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
What appears to confuse you, is the idea that many people may share similar principles, that they may be willing to seek compromise ....

This does not confuse me at all.

When it comes to matters of principle compromise is not an option.

Assuming you consider yourself to be a small government conservative how can you logically justify Bush's modest tax cut and his desire to create a new multi billion dollar entitlement program?

Is this an acceptable compromise for you?

Government either: shrinks, remains constant, or grows.

The republicans are growing government. What I am confused by is the claim that it is better when republicans grow govt at a rate of 1X because the democrats will grow govt at a rate of 2X.

In the final analysis there is no practical difference.

Regards

J.R.

76 posted on 10/19/2003 5:00:02 PM PDT by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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"When it comes to matters of principle compromise is not an option."

The problem is, that in a nation where everyone has an equal right to a voice in their government, government without compromise is tyranny.

"When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it. "Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything. "I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'

"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it." ~~ Ronald Reagan, in his autobiography, An American Life


77 posted on 10/19/2003 7:45:38 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Bob J
**PING**
78 posted on 10/19/2003 8:13:01 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
The problem is, that in a nation where everyone has an equal right to a voice in their government, government without compromise is tyranny.

That statement is only partially true. The part that is incorrect is the root of the problem.

For example, every year spending bills move through congress. All the lawgivers agree that the Defense Department needs money. They do not agree on the amount. A compromise on the amount is reached and the bill passes. That is an acceptable compromise.

National defense is a legitimate function of the federal government. By passing a DoD spending bill no principles (in this case the Constitutional limits of the government) were violated.

The problem is that the attitude that compromise is both normal and acceptable has been extended to issues where compromise is absolutely not normal or acceptable.

The Reagan quote refers to being happy with getting 75% of what he wanted. That is fine so long as every item in this statistic was conservative and Constitutional.

In actual practice the republican leadership at the national level gives us 75% of what the democrats want (more socialism) and call it a victory because the democrats did not get 25% of what they originally wanted.

That is not a winning strategy.

Regards

J.R.

79 posted on 10/20/2003 7:10:36 PM PDT by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: NMC EXP
"The problem is that the attitude that compromise is both normal and acceptable has been extended to issues where compromise is absolutely not normal or acceptable."

Nice sounding paragraph, but no details as to what YOU consider issues where compromise is absolutely not normal or acceptable.

Mind you, others with equal rights to voice their opinions may think that your position is absolutely not normal or acceptable.

And they are Americans just like you and I.

"That is fine so long as every item in this statistic was conservative."

In other words, tyranny is fine as long as it is conducted in accordance to YOUR political ideology.

80 posted on 10/20/2003 8:25:24 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Those who think they know, really piss off those of us who truly do.)
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