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To: charmtrap
Sure, as long its completely voluntary. I don't support anyone being forced to say anything. Down that road lies totalitarianism.

There is no "forcing" envolved. Those who don't want to do it have the option not to. But now, no teacher can lead the students in reciting the pledge. I remind you that to recite in a group is as fundamental right as individually. The same goes for prayer. All of this is easily resolved in principle - the "opt out" principle. Instead, we have court-created prohibition. Court-created law - which is in itself unconstitutional.
94 posted on 10/17/2003 7:51:02 PM PDT by singsong
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To: singsong
There is no "forcing" envolved. Those who don't want to do it have the option not to. But now, no teacher can lead the students in reciting the pledge. I remind you that to recite in a group is as fundamental right as individually.

What's your point? A public-school teacher is a government actor. A government actor leading a pledge that implies god-belief is wrong, on principle.

Try to understand this point: not everyone believes in your god! Try replacing God in the 'Under God' with Allah, and tell me if you approve.

All of this is easily resolved in principle - the "opt out" principle.

That's a good principle. There's also the principle of 'captive audience'. To date, captive audience has won.

Court-created law - which is in itself unconstitutional.

I'm not even going to address this one. 'Court-created law' is a conservative boogeyman. I don't believe in the boogeyman either.
99 posted on 10/17/2003 8:05:23 PM PDT by charmtrap
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