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FBI Questions Man On Box Cutters In Planes
AP ^ | 10-17-2003 | Curt Anderson

Posted on 10/17/2003 3:51:08 PM PDT by blam

FBI Questions Man on Box Cutters in Planes

By CURT ANDERSON, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The government on Friday ordered intensified security checks of the entire U.S. commercial air fleet after small plastic bags containing box cutters and other suspicious items were found on two Southwest Airlines planes.

A 20-year-old North Carolina man was being questioned by the FBI in connection with the incidents, according to a congressional official and a senior law enforcement official, both of whom spoke on condition of anonymity.

The congressional official said the man, described as a college student, had informed the Transportation Security Administration that he planned to put packages on planes in an effort to expose gaps in aviation security.

"It doesn't appear to be a terrorist event," FBI Director Robert Mueller said. "I think it is safe to fly."

Still, as a precaution, the government ordered intensified searches of the roughly 7,000 commercial aircraft. The checks were expected to be completed by Saturday, with no disruptions to service.

The suspicious bags were hidden in lavatory compartments aboard Southwest Airlines jets that landed in New Orleans and Houston. They were found late Thursday by maintenance workers.

A Southwest statement said the items appeared "intended to simulate a threat" and that each bag was accompanied by a note that "indicated the items were intended to challenge Transportation Security Administration checkpoint security procedures."

Another senior law enforcement official, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said each note included precise information about where and when the items were placed on board the aircraft. The official would not provide further details.

In addition to the box cutters and notes, the bags contained bleach, matches and modeling clay, according to the official. The bleach on one of the planes was in a suntan lotion bottle and in another unidentified container on the other plane.

The clay was formed to look like a plastic explosive, while the bleach could have been used to demonstrate how a corrosive or dangerous liquid could be smuggled aboard an aircraft.

Though government officials were quick to say there were no indications of terrorism, the discovery aboard the Southwest planes was a chilling reminder of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The 19 hijackers used box cutters to take over four jets that day. Box cutters and bleach are now are among the items that cannot be carried onto planes.

The TSA was created after the attacks, with the goal of replacing privately employed airport security workers with better-trained and higher-paid government employees. Problems with screening passengers and bags have persisted, however. For example, officials say X-ray machines can't detect plastic explosives.

Officials say it's unclear whether the items placed on the Southwest planes ever went through security. Investigators have interviewed passengers and crew on the New Orleans plane but also had not ruled out the possibility that airline or airport workers had placed the bags on the planes.

Southwest spokeswoman Beth Harbin said the New Orleans plane had originated in Orlando, Fla., and was scheduled to go on to San Diego later Thursday night. The crew reported a lavatory wasn't working and a maintenance worker discovered the bag while working on the problem at about 9 p.m., she said.

A short time later, a bag was found aboard the Houston aircraft, which had arrived from nearby Austin, Texas, for routine maintenance. Southwest said security checks of its entire fleet of 385 aircraft found no other suspicious items.

All airlines conduct routine searches of their planes. Homeland Security Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said a government directive that went out after the bags were found instructed airlines "to make sure the searches are done in a comprehensive and thorough manner."

Paul Rancantore, deputy chairman of the security committee for American Airlines' pilots union, described the routine searches as fairly perfunctory.

"It's kind of a walk-through. They're just looking for things that are obvious," Rancatore said. "There's no removing of panels, no dogs."

Rep. John Mica, chairman of the House aviation subcommittee, said the incident demonstrates the need to screen all employees with access to aircraft and whatever they bring on a board. He also said TSA needs improved technology to screen for explosives and banned objects.

"We need to have TSA get its act together and put in place the adequate training and technology to deal with the threat," said Mica, R-Fla.

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Associated Press writers Leslie Miller in Washington and David Koenig in Dallas contributed to this story.


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; airseclist; box; captured; cutters; fbi; man; nathanielheatwole; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; planes; questions; tsa
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To: Vermonter
Shoelaces and leather belts can also be used to tie someone up. These are prohibited, Citizen!
21 posted on 10/17/2003 5:50:44 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: seamole
A Southwest statement said the items appeared "intended to simulate a threat"

How do we know the terrorists didn't/don't/won't put the same notes in their flight bags? Sorry, but I think we have to have a zero tolerance on these stunts. They don't prove anything, as there can be NO perfect defense. Our anti-terror tactics have to be focused on offense, rather than defense, where the dollars are 10X more cost effective.

I believe a life sentence is a "little" too much. If I had any say, I would be sure this crusader never gets a job in any security sensitive industry, ever.

22 posted on 10/17/2003 6:11:04 PM PDT by NJJ
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To: John H K
I hope that you are correct about the insignificance of Al Qaeda. We HAVE beat the living crap out of them around the world. Maybe there is no gas left in the tank. I think Bin Laden is dead.

If Al Qaeda is so weak, why would the administration portray them as a dangerous threat?
23 posted on 10/17/2003 6:23:16 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Celebrate Globalism)
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To: COBOL2Java
In all fairness, I've found that once they get "in the groove", the TSA folks are a vast improvement over the previous security personnel.

I was delayed a few times when TSA took over security for a new airport and it took them a while to get "up to speed". But, the TSA folks have been much more "cordial" than the private security people hired by the subcontractors to the airlines (which paid little more than McDonald's).

After they have been around a while, the TSA folks may be no better. But at the moment, I find them to be more efficient and more reasonable.

24 posted on 10/17/2003 6:48:29 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: blackdog
Nobody will ever overtake another American Commercial Airliner if it's full of passengers. Americans are not going to sit there and go thru that again.

There are only enough sky marshalls to fly planes of elected reps. The rest of us are on our own. Law enforcement fellow advised my daughters to eyeball everyone on plane. Take particular notice of anyone that looks suspicious and report to attendant. Also use anything available as weapons -- rolling up magazine and jabbing it hard against throat, temple or eyes -- can also use shoes as weapons. A workmate of mine always wears heavy "stomping boots" as he calls them and a special belt buckle...

I think most people who fly planes now prepare mentally to fight on board the plane if they have to.

25 posted on 10/17/2003 7:03:48 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: blam
A 20-year-old North Carolina man was being questioned by the FBI in connection with the incidents, according to a congressional official and a senior law enforcement official, both of whom spoke on condition of anonymity

I at least can tolerate the low grade now FEDERAL MORONS that I interact with as long as they are pleasant and discuss such weighty issues as the "Atkins diet",but the reality is that WITHOUT PROFILING, THERE IS NO SECURITY.

This remains beyond the grasp of the SOB's in charge.

IT IS CRIMINALY NEGLIGENT!

HIRE EL-AL CONSULTANTS OR BE SUED!!!!!!!!!

26 posted on 10/17/2003 7:16:23 PM PDT by Rome2000 (McCarthy was right!)
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To: Vermonter
Let me guess; you don't have a beard that's halfway down your chest and weren't wearing a turban (you probably would've gotten the bungee cords through security with those accessories).
27 posted on 10/17/2003 7:53:28 PM PDT by steveegg (I have one thing to say to the idiot that stole Game 6 - MOVE!!!)
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To: vavavah
The 40/hr. unionized rampers are also mobbed up and corrupt as hell. Rampers at NYC airports are routinely busted in theft rings. $9/hr. has nothing to do with how secure the rampers are.
28 posted on 10/17/2003 8:54:08 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: EverOnward
There are only enough sky marshalls to fly planes of elected reps.

So, basically, the whole thing of elected reps flying commercial is a big show to make the sheeple think the whole system is safer. With the sheeple paying this huge bill to have the government propagandize them. Lovely.

And then there's the whole "some are more equal" angle to this story.

29 posted on 10/17/2003 8:56:28 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: COBOL2Java
I have never understood why giving the same people a new uniform would somehow magically improve airline security.
30 posted on 10/18/2003 5:48:03 PM PDT by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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To: garbanzo
I have never understood why giving the same people a new uniform would somehow magically improve airline security.

Well, since this little piece of legislation was pushed by the Democrats, I have to assume the intention was not so much to improve airline security, but instead to improve the incidence of the [D] lever getting pulled on election day.

31 posted on 10/19/2003 6:16:20 AM PDT by COBOL2Java
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