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To: narses
The federal courts kicked it back down to Florida. I would argue it as a denial of her basic civil rights as stated in the Florida Constitution.

For the courts to side with Michael Schiavo, they would have to completely disregard Article 1, Section 2. They promote her as void of thought, hoping most will view a lack of mental awareness, which they promote in spite of evidence to the contrary, as useless to society and worthy of death. By denying her rights as a person, she is in effect mere property owned by Michael Schiavo. She is an object to be disposed of. Since she does not think, she does not have rights - her life is meaningless. It is tantamount to slavery, except that she's a useless slave that needs to be killed. Didn't President Bush recently speak out on the ownership of other human beings?

This battle could be centered upon her most basic of rights. Those having been breached because of her physical disability, and possibly because of her gender. It doesn't appear that this angle has been pursued to the fullest extent. I suppose defending individual rights is too touchy a subject and has too far reaching effects for a society that is rapidly sliding down the socialist slope.

To be honest, though, all hopes of legal intervention rest on the shoulders of those who breached Terri's rights in the first place.
259 posted on 10/17/2003 9:04:26 PM PDT by kenth (This is not your father's tagline.)
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To: kenth
To be honest, though, all hopes of legal intervention rest on the shoulders of those who breached Terri's rights in the first place.

I think you are right.

But the Reds and Nazis were completely "legal", weren't they?

266 posted on 10/17/2003 9:09:59 PM PDT by don-o (Germany 1932)
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To: kenth
Right. Your analysis is well thought out and correct.
267 posted on 10/17/2003 9:10:44 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: kenth; Coleus; Pan_Yans Wife; Ragtime Cowgirl
>>>The federal courts kicked it back down to Florida.

A federal judge filed the papers to take this case. Greer didn't respond. Nor will he during this weekend. Monday may be too late.
275 posted on 10/17/2003 9:16:08 PM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: kenth
For the courts to side with Michael Schiavo, they would have to completely disregard Article 1, Section 2. They promote her as void of thought, hoping most will view a lack of mental awareness, which they promote in spite of evidence to the contrary, as useless to society and worthy of death.

The problem is that if there is any circumstance legally in which a person's feeding tube may be removed (and certainly there are some(*), though I don't know that any could be weaseled into applying here) and Judge Greer finds that such circumstances exist, there's nothing an appeals court can do to challenge such a finding no matter how much evidence may exist to the contrary. The most it can do, if evidence exists which Judge Greer should have considered but won't admit to having done so, is order him to consider such evidence. Since such consideration could in fact consist of simply flipping through the pages and ignoring anything printed on them, such an order is basically meaningless.

(*) Well, for starters, it's certainly legal to remove a feeding tube if a person has recovered to the point of not needing it, and I suspect it's probably legal to remove a feeding tube if someone's absolutely and completely dead in an effort to pretty up the corpse.

288 posted on 10/17/2003 9:22:50 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: kenth
For seven years Michael, Terri's husband and court (Greer) appointed guardian has been in breach of fealty, by cohabiting with another woman (and now statutorily connected to her, so it's bigamy) and fathering children with another woman. He has been abusing Terri, as her guardian, by withholding therapy that was authorized in the lawsuit he undertook for malpractice. He has misappropriated her trust funds to pay a lawyer trying to have his ward put to death. I'd say there is ample weight of malfeasance to warrant investigating judge Greer and Michael Schiavo! THAT ought to be enough to authorize the chief law enforcement officer of the state of Florida to intervene and stop the execution until a full and thorough investigation is accomplished! Why? ... Because the ruling by Greer is irreversible if finished before an investigation.
310 posted on 10/17/2003 9:31:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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