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FREEP JEB BUSH for TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO
http://www.Terrisfight.org | Friday, 10-17-03 | floriduh voter

Posted on 10/17/2003 2:59:38 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock

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To: Coral Snake
Why do we allow a purjuring, software pirate traitor to continue to run our computers?)....I assume your talking about Bill Gates?????

....and the answer is,"Because no one believes it but us few"!!!!!!

601 posted on 10/18/2003 10:38:38 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("What is impossible with men is possible with GOD -Luke 18:27)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I called the district attorney , they had many phone calls. Tons of peopel wrote and called Jeb and aksed him to order the district attorney to opena criminal case. There are numerous things we have cited, which we believe should give standing for doing that. I just don't know why that did not fly. Someone posted that Fox news was reporting last night that Jeb was ORDERED not to step in. But no further word on that. If true , who would have the power to do that?
602 posted on 10/18/2003 10:39:17 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: pc93
Added note: torture and attempted murder of Terri began:
Oct. 15th 2pm (hydration, feeding was six hours before that time).
603 posted on 10/18/2003 10:40:03 AM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Someone posted that Fox news was reporting last night that Jeb was ORDERED not to step in. But no further word on that. If true , who would have the power to do that?

Probably the President /sarcasm

604 posted on 10/18/2003 10:41:12 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Te audire no possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
What happened was that Terri's parents tried to get a court order to force Jeb to act but that was declined by the courts. Jeb can act .. he doesn't need a court order to act.
605 posted on 10/18/2003 10:41:43 AM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
The governor of Florida is the chief law-enforcement office and has every authority to put on hold the execution of a court order (especially an execution order) that has an irreversible outcome if finished then found to be unauthorized. THAT is his authority, if he had the cajones to act then deal with the democrat prattle that would follow as Terri survives.
606 posted on 10/18/2003 10:51:18 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Right.. but I can not believe that would happen. I just will not believe that. Who would be stopping Jeb from opening a criminal suit , either against the Judge or the husband. Is it the case that if he was wrong, he would be in legal trouble. He has the advice to do so.. what else would be stopping him?
607 posted on 10/18/2003 10:53:57 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: MHGinTN
I don't think it is cowardice that prevents him from acting - there has to be something else...
608 posted on 10/18/2003 10:54:55 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Te audire no possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.)
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To: pc93
Why do you think Jeb is not acting then?
609 posted on 10/18/2003 10:54:57 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: pc93
ping to 606
610 posted on 10/18/2003 10:55:56 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Ask Jeb why he keeps on the same endless loop of "separation of powers" when:

The governor of Florida is the chief law-enforcement office and has every authority to put on hold the execution of a court order (especially an execution order) that has an irreversible outcome if finished then found to be unauthorized. THAT is his authority.

He is going to be complicit of murdering Terri. Strong accusation I know but it is TRUE. He must stop Terri's
death now or will eventually pay the consequences for his
actions. I'm sure "the people" will see to that.
611 posted on 10/18/2003 11:07:48 AM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: pc93
Why do you think he does not see that? Do the higher ups in this think it will go away after she dies, that we can scream all we want but we have no real power, that they are covering up for the judge or they just don't want to get involved in telling a judge no.

It seems so simple to me that all of the evidence regarding Terri's condition her illness, and her wish to die is suspect. Why would they not want to just stop and look? Jeb has the legal advice to do so, he has people asking him to do so, he has some in the media asking him to do something. What am I a simpelton or something? What the heck am I missing here?

612 posted on 10/18/2003 11:18:49 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Oh and do you know the status of the SCOTUS decesion. Wasn't it supposed to be released last night by 12:00. Some are saying that nothing can be done until they release the case, and there is some hold up on that end. I read a post that Fox new was reporting last night ( about the time the decesion was to be released) that Jeb was ORDERED not to step in. Do you know anything about that ? Can that be true?
613 posted on 10/18/2003 11:23:37 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: No More Gore Anymore
ooops please see 613
614 posted on 10/18/2003 11:25:02 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Why do you think Jeb is not acting then?

Probably because there is an awful lot of pressure on officials not to overly rock the boat. If Terri recovers, this case will generate fifty times the publicity it has to date, and while it wouldn't be directed against Jeb, it would be directed at people with the power to make Jeb's life miserable.

To be sure, some things just need to be done, but even if there were something which was clearly legal that Jeb could do to invervene, even that would not be without considerable risk.

615 posted on 10/18/2003 11:47:35 AM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: sweetliberty
Yes, Libby, there isn't any doubt anymore. Truly vexing.
616 posted on 10/18/2003 11:48:16 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: isrul
Does anyone know what line of work Schiavo pursues when he's not trying to murder his wife.

Could there be organized crime connections?

He does look like the kind of guy the mob would send over to break your legs. That would also tie in with his abusive ways. And after all, it is Florida.

I'm starting to wonder if Schiavo has some kind of connection to occult activity. He has way too much power and things have gone uncontested beyond belief for far too long. It's as if no one can stop him. That's not normal.

617 posted on 10/18/2003 11:49:41 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: No More Gore Anymore
I went to the vigil yesterday outside the Hospice Woodside. I think I posted an address before and it was wrong so I myself got lost but I finally found it with the help of Fay and some helpful citizens (Hospice Woodside is located at 6774 102nd Avenue North in Pinellas Park, FL and is just west of 66th Street North). Terri's family was there as well as more than 50 people. I met with others who have been active in getting awareness of Terri's plight, etc. There were signs for Terri and even candle vigils and a picture of Terri with candles lit. Police were stationed outside in the different areas and supposedly they have attack dogs out back.

I was struck with unbelief that this is actually happening, not that I haven't been before but actually being there outside the building where the Governor is forcing Terri to die because of his inaction was to me hideous to contemplate. Terri is in there and she is being essentially murdered by Jeb! There has been mentioned that this situation smacks of Nazi Germany.. well welcome to Nazi Florida, Nazi USA.

Everyone knows (or should know) the facts of the case that Michael is a criminal for his intents, made clear through actions and words, etc.

Everyone knows (or should know) that Felos is corrupt (oh I forgot he is an attorney so he is beyond breaking the laws.. yeah right!) and that Terri never said: "No Tubes for me" (see the court records that she never said this and that Felos continually lies about this in the State and Federal Courts and in the media).

Everyone knows (or should know) that Judge Greer’s actions smack of impropriety and illegality.

Everyone knows (or should know) that the 2nd DCA is a waste heap of judges who at the time of their ruling were in the deepest of evil in their rulings, etc.

Everyone knows (or should know) that the Florida Supreme Court was remiss in their duties to save an innocent disabled woman from a criminal death dealing husband/attorney and all the previous mentioned being guilty of the same crime. (See the state court transcripts and Federal court transcripts for all of the previous, it's all there).

Everyone knows (or should know) that Jeb in his capacity of Governor of Florida in this particular case has the power to use his Executive power to stop this and that it is not a question of "Separation of Powers" that not only Attorneys whom he asked for advice from (Thomas More Law Center, etc.) gave him the information that stated that it went beyond "Separation of Powers" and that he has a duty and obligation to stop Terri from being executed. (The governor of Florida is the Chief Law Enforcement Officer and has every authority to put on hold the execution of a court order (especially an execution order) that has an irreversible outcome if finished then found to be unauthorized. THAT is his authority).

Everyone now knows (or should know) that Jeb will be complicit in murder of an innocent disabled woman.

Right now Jeb and all the previous mentioned are guilty of torture, attempted murder (the job is almost done), terrorist actions via forced dehydration(!) and starvation(!) of an innocent disabled woman. If this doesn't smack of the highest of criminal negligence, impropriety, malfeasance on their parts then I don't know what does.

I don't know what it would take to wake up Americans that this is happening. Apparently everyone goes about their daily lives in total ignorance. Some of the media have been a help but in the mainstream most of the media is for sensationalism and misuse of the science of semantics, etc. and they are remiss in the duties to keep a populace informed.

You can keep praying and sending healing energies to Terri, etc. as this is indeed an energy world so please do not stop in these actions, but I would beseech you to do anything and everything in your physical powers to get the word out about what is happening at this very time.

I suggested to Fay to go out on overpasses with created banners and hang them up just like during election days, etc. and give a message to Jeb in it and also put http://terrisfight.org, etc. I'll leave the rest to your imaginations, only creative and concerted efforts to get the masses attention to this matter (right now!) will have the possible effect to turn the tide of what is happening to Terri right now.

Jeb needs to act and he needs to act quick or be complicit as above stated in the murder of Terri Schindler Schiavo.

Added note: torture and attempted murder of Terri began: Oct. 15th 2pm (hydration, feeding was six hours before that time).

TIME IS RUNNING OUT!!!

Contact everyone and anyone to get the message out.

Refs:

supremecourt@flcourts.org

Substantive Contacts:

Craig Waters for the Supreme Court, (850) 414-7641, watersc@flcourts.org Brenda Johnson, for the Office of the State Courts Administrator, (850) 922-5081, johnsonb@flcourts.org

Executive Office of Governor, Legal Team to Jeb (ask to speak to the following individuals):

Robert H. Fernandez (Deputy General Counsel to Governor) -> fernanr@eog.state.fl.us
Raquel A. Rodriguez (General Counsel to Governor) -> raquel.rodriguez@myflorida.com
Christa Calamas (Assistant General Counsel to Governor) -> calamac@eog.state.fl.us

850 / 488-3494 (voice)
850 / 488-9810 (fax)

Jeb Bush, Governor -> jeb@myflorida.com,jeb.bush@myflorida.com
Voice: (850)488-4441
Voice: (850)488-7146
Fax: (850)487-0801

Executive Office of the Governor
400 S. Monroe Street
The Capitol
Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0001

Ask to speak to Lauren O'Conner

Attorney General Charlie Crist -> ag@oag.state.fl.us

Office of Attorney General Charlie Crist
State of Florida
The Capitol PL-01
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
Main office telephone numbers
Voice: (850)414-3990
Fax: (850)487-2564
Additional added note:

A criminal investigation needs to be conducted by John Ashcroft. Please demand of President Bush to initiate an investigation so that Mr. Ashcroft can get involved:

President George W. Bush
c/o The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
N.W. Washington, D.C. 20500

Voice: (202)456-1111
Switchboard: (202)456-1414
Fax: 1 202 456 2883
TTY/TDD Comments: 202-456-6213
Visitors Office: 202-456-2121

Although you'll get an automated response, here are the e-mails for GW and Cheney:

President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov
Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.president@whitehouse.gov
Fax: 1 202 456 2710

United States Attorney General John Ashcroft: (AskDOJ@usdoj.gov)
Fax:202/514-1009

U.S. Senate:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

AN EMAIL SENT, REQUESTING AN INVESTIGATION BY HOMELAND SECURITY DEPARTMENT:

Subject: Homeland Security needed in Florida - Thousands of citizens at risk WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON IN FLORIDA??????? The Homeland Security Dept should hold an immediate investigation into the murky circumstances surrounding the Forced Euthanasia of a 39 year old Pinellas County woman. Documented sources show that Terri Schiavo suffered a collapse at the age of 26 under mysterious circumstances. Since that time, her spouse (of 3 years at that time) sued and won a malpractice award resulting in a 300K award to him for loss of consortium, and 750K to Terri Schiavo for her rehabilitation. Several questions of legality abound here:

1) Why has none of Terri's 750 K been spent on efforts to rehabilitate her?

2) Why has Terri's spouse ordered that Terri not be given normal rehabilitation that would be afforded most persons in her situation?

3) Why is Michael Schiavo still allowed to be Terri's legal guardian even though he has a domestic partner and 2 children by said partner? Terri briefly did have the service of Richard L. Pearse, Esq., appointed by the court in 1998.,br> Attorney Pearse was dismissed from the case by the state court on motion by George J. Felos, Esq., the non-party co-conspirator herein, after the former filed a report concluding that Michael Schiavo had an irreconcilable conflict of interest due to Schiavo's relationship with another woman, his financial stake in Terri's death, and the fact that he tried to let Terri die of a urinary tract infection in 1993.

4) Why has Terri been kept in a Hospice for since March or April 2000, when Hospice' is meant for terminally ill patients, not disabled persons who can be rehabilitated.

5) Why is Medicaid paying for Terri, someone who is not certified Terminally Ill to be kept in a hospice? When her husband drives a recent model Mercedes, owns a home with a pool, has an insurance corporation, and earns good income?

6) Why isn't Michael Schiavo paying the hospice bill if he is Terri's husband? He has income and assets, or is he hiding his assets with his in-active insurance company that has its office at his residence?

7) Shouldn't Michael Schiavo return the malpractice funds that were to be used for Terri's rehabilitation? Surely the mal-practice award was not intended to be used as a vehicle to have Terri's life ended.

8) Why isn't the media allowed to see Terri in her room at the Hospice?

9) Why is the Suncoast Hospice allowed to even be open, when it has 3 lawsuits against it for various misappropriations of patients funds and donations, and for sexual harassment? Isn't it misappropriating the governments funds now, by billing Medicaid for a non-terminal patient?

10) Why is Suncoast Hospice allowed to knowingly employ convicted embezzlers in its financial department? One said embezzler had just been released from prison.

11) Why is Judge Greer allowed to preside over this case when it is clear that he has conflicts of interest, such as having served on the board of hospice (with big salary), as has Michael Schiavo's attorney, Felos? (Felos served as Chairman of Hospice Board). It would seem to me that those very ties to a board overseeing a Hospice that is rife with improprieties would be a red flag.

12) Why has Judge Greer banned Terri's parents from videotaping her, tape recording her, and photographing her? Is this so that he can preserve the false image that Terri is in a coma or in a vegetative state??? This is important evidence that Terri is not in a persistent vegetative state and is responsive to her family and friends. This includes evidence that Terri can get out a few words, and that she WANTS TO LIVE! video. Since when was a judge supposed to suppress the truth?

13) Why is Michael Schiavo's word taken that Terri would not want to be kept alive with artificial means, when her own family and friends never heard her to say such things. Since when was hearsay enough to take the place of a living will? Especially since Michael Schiavo has contradicted himself greatly by suing for rehabilitative funds for Terri and then not using them to do so? His veracity is dubious at best.

14) Why isn't Michael Schiavo being investigated for being the possible cause of Terri's collapse, since medical records (later discovered) have come to light that Terri's initial injuries suggest strangulation? R/E bone scan.

15) Why isn't Terri given the option of refusing rehabilitation, and the option to refuse food herself?

16) Why has Michael Schiavo ordered an immediate cremation of Terri Schiavo's body once she dies?

17) Why doesn’t the State prevent that and order an immediate autopsy of Terri's body, or better yet, prevent her death so as to not need one?

18) Does the state of Florida plan to start putting disabled people into Hospice facilities now? Then to kill them?

19) When did the state of Florida sink so low in its compassion for the disabled?

20) Why is the state of Florida, and ultimately the United States of America allowing itself to sink so low that other sovereign countries feel compelled to offer asylum to one of our disabled? And to offer treatment at no cost? Where is our decency, our humanity, our sense of shame? Why does our country give up its greatness so cheaply?????

21) At what cost, moral and ethical, does the state of Florida, and the country of the United States allow the forced euthanasia of a disabled person? Of any person. How far have we sunk as a nation???

PERHAPS A BOYCOTT OF FLORIDA IS THE BEST THING FOR ANYONE WHO IS CONSIDERING BECOMING DISABLED ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE A BAD MARRIAGE. Please kindly respond.

Please visit http://terrisfight.org

618 posted on 10/18/2003 11:52:10 AM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Nothing that is the point. They are cowards who are remiss in their duties to stop a great wrong when they see it. Point blank: People like this are enemies of humanity. People like this were brought up on war crimes at the Hague and the Nuremburg trials.
619 posted on 10/18/2003 11:55:47 AM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
The point is that he can act regardless of the courts.
620 posted on 10/18/2003 11:57:33 AM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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