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1 posted on 10/17/2003 2:22:16 PM PDT by Gritty
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Whereas the struggle against communism pitted a civilization shaped by religious faith against a godless foe, in this war, we are the godless ones.

We'd be better off if we were a nation of cold-eyed Objectivists, but I'll settle for letting the Christians fight off the Muslims, because I know Christians will let me live as an Objectivist, whereas Muslims won't.

2 posted on 10/17/2003 2:36:17 PM PDT by wizardoz (Palestinians are just dynamite!)
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I don't see much evidence that Western decadence is a factor in their hatred of Western Civilization. After all, different factions of Islam that claim to be reading the same scripture and following the same morality are trying to wipe out one another. Even if we all converted to Islam, it still wouldn't count unless we converted to exactly the same faction as whatever terrorist group is the threat.

Add to this the stories of the "perfumed princes" and the general lack of value placed on human life in their culture. They're in no position to be criticizing anyone else's morality. Are we supposed to embrace concepts like "honor killings" in order to appear "civilized" in their eyes?

3 posted on 10/17/2003 2:40:59 PM PDT by snarkpup
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There's an old Russian saying: "If a man has one pig and sees his neighbor has two pigs, he'd rather kill one of his neighbor's pigs than work to purchase another pig for himself."

4 posted on 10/17/2003 2:44:54 PM PDT by stradivarius
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precisely the contribution of Christianity, in which righteousness comes not from legalism or coercion but from the freedom of the gospel.

Tough sell in Saud.
10 posted on 10/17/2003 3:20:39 PM PDT by tet68 (multiculturalism is an ideological academic fantasy maintained in obvious bad faith. M. Thompson)
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13 posted on 10/18/2003 5:26:34 AM PDT by rhema
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14 posted on 10/18/2003 3:51:55 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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