Posted on 10/17/2003 1:44:34 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
Yet another Florida judge refused a last-ditch effort today by Terri Schiavo's parents to save her from a slow death by starvation and dehydration. Judge Jonathan Sjostrom quickly rejected the request, which would have directed Gov. Jeb Bush to intervene. Her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, said they would turn to the 1st District Court of Appeal in Tallahassee. The Schindlers wanted the court to compel Bush to order an investigation into their allegations that Mrs. Schiavo's husband, Michael, abused her. They want her feeding tube reinserted so police can investigate. Schiavo says he did not mistreat his wife. State police and prosecutors have refused to investigate. Pat Anderson, the Schindlers' attorney, said the judge's swift denial did not surprise her. The legal battle between the Schindlers and their son-in-law has already passed through 19 judges and six courts. "There has been an awful lot of judicial attention to this case," Anderson said. "Judges don't like to second-guess each other."
I wonder how Sanders Sauls would have handled the request? Isn't he in Leon County? He visited his former nanny three times a day to spoon feed her when she was hospitalized.
A far cry from Judge Greer.---The other end of the spectrum.
"The care of human life and happiness, not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government." - Thomas Jefferson
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If W doesn't save Terri Schiavo NOW in '03, then I will lose interest in him and hope that he is a mere w in '05 ! George W. and Jeb had better get with it!
And Arnold (and others in CA, and across America) could make a statement too - the Travesty in the killing of Terri Schiavo.
MURDER in the Making - in the Sunshine State! - (Florida)
EUTHANASIA SCANDAL to Erupt in Florida! Posted on 10/14/2003 10:25 PM CDT by conservative111
To: isrul
if Jeb can find the authority to order privately held orange trees infected with a minor blight to be destroyed to prevent the massive infestation of the same to the commercial orange orchard/factories that are such a powerful lobby in his state, why doesn't he use his same authority to save Terri's life? Extralegal measures are not new to him. (before the Bush v. Gore fiasco--he ordered Katherine Harris to certify the results in favour of his brother), Extralegal measures are nothing new for chief executives--from kicking the cherokee people out of their land under Jackson, to the blockade of Cuba (technically an act of war--which only Congress can authorize) under Kennedy, chief executives have taken advantage of extralegal measures to the benefit of a percieved interested majority.
12 posted on 10/18/2003 12:28 AM PDT by Schwaeky (Lex mala, lex nulla--if the law is bad, then the law is null)
In a message dated 10/18/2003 11:19:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, angleena@iowatelecom.net writes:
Terri did have a swollowing test done several years ago. From what I understand, the last time she was tested was when the lawsuit was initially started several years ago.
A nurse on the AOL Message board insists that a swallowing test is REQUIRED BY LAW every 6 months if you have a feeding tube and I KNEW Terri had not been getting them,
"Human rights are not a privilege conferred by government. They are every human being's entitlement by virtue of his humanity."
- Mother Theresa ("Notable and Quotable," Wall Street Journal, 2/25/94, p. A14)
http://www.yahoogroups.com/groups/helpterri
http://www.yahoogroups.com/groups/helpterri/chat
Sunday, October 19, 2003 9:09 AM
Kangaroo courts and the Executive Power / Terri's will to live
10/18/03 -- Jeb's Emails to FR poster, summer, today, re: Terri. (And, a Message to Michael Shiavo)
Posted by pc93 to No More Gore Anymore
On News/Activism 10/19/2003 8:32 AM PDT #204 of 214
To: Lawdoc; dixiegrrl; supercat; Pegita
Rumours have been flying aroun the internet and people are getting things mixed up. This summary on one page seems to be the most accurate.
"Judge George Greer: Ruler of the Kangaroo Court set on killing Terri Schiavo. Impartial? Not in the least! Worked side by side as county commissioner with Barbara Sheen Todd (county commissioner) for eight YEARS. Barbara Sheen Todd is on the board of the hospice. Also, Judge Greer's fellow judge, Judge John Lenderman is the brother of Martha Lenderman (also on the hospice board! See the Hospice Board members! Greer accepted as the basis of his rulings, the questionable testimony of Michael Schiavo (and his family) that Terri would wish to be killed, yet Michael never stated that before he got about a Million Dollars to care for Terri forever. Greer also accepted as the basis of his rulings, the "opinion" of a third doctor who just happens to be the brother of a close associate of George Felos, right-to-kill attorney, and very significantly, former CHAIRMAN of the hospice board! If there ever was a rigged court, Judge Greer's is it!"
398 posted on 10/19/2003 4:41 AM PDT by TaxRelief
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The war for Terri Schiavo's life- some links
Posted by pc93 to IcelandicConservative
On News/Activism 10/19/2003 8:30 AM PDT #412 of 417
Ok. Sorry. Yes she is conscious but Jeb needs to do something straightaway as she has gone without food or water since Oct. 18 at 8AM.
Jeb has the duty to uphold the laws of Florida. He has been notified that a murder is taking place in his state on his watch, to a defensless diabled person. She is being starved and dehydrated against her will, upon the false testimony that she is brain dead and wants to die. She is not either.
Sunday, October 19, 2003 9:00 AM
JEB PLEASE SAVE TERRI NOW
http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schi ndler.asf
http://www.tomeaker.com/ts/terri-cabl e.mov
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download
TERRI HAS BEEN WITHOUT WATER AND NUTRITION SINCE
OCT. 15TH 8AM. PLEASE BESEECH JEB TO SAVE HER
AS HE IS THE ONLY ONE LEFT WHO HAS THE POWER
TO DO SO VIA EXECUTIVE ORDER.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tammy Nicholas"
To:
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 3:34 AM
Subject: [helpterri] Fwd: IMPORTANT UPDATE ON TERRY
And Very Important Info
>
> --- TERRISHOPE@aol.com wrote:
> > From: TERRISHOPE@aol.com
> > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:26:35 EDT
> > Subject: IMPORTANT UPDATE ON TERRY And Very
> > Important Info
> > To: TERRISHOPE@aol.com
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> > I have to do this ... this way, I have (many of
you
> > know this) tried to email
> > you all one on one and I just can't keep up, I am
> > losing it here. So it's a
> > MASS mail now, PLEASE bear with me. Let me try
and
> > tell you all ... all I
> > know and some other things as well. First of all,
> > there are many rumors going
> > around and they are making me mad, but I have got
to
> > ignore them because I don't
> > have TIME to waste and you know what, neither do
> > you. So if you want to
> > listen to me and believe me that''s a good thing,
> > because you will only get FACTS
> > from me, no made up BS. This isn't a game. And
if
> > I am half dead here I can
> > just imagine how all of you are holding up. You
are
> > fighting none stop, many
> > of you are putting ALL of your time and efforts
into
> > this and you are
> > AMAZING!! God bless all of you!!
> >
> > Okay now, first off... Terri as of RIGHT NOW 2 AM
> > Florida time has been
> > without food, water and any meds (meds that I am
> > aware of) for 88 hours. Her tube
> > was removed HOURS AFTER her last feeding, remember
> > she was only being fed
> > twice a day. She is still responding and aware!!!
> > She is still fighting for her
> > blessed life! "She has a will to live people!!!"
> > We have got to be her
> > voice, we just have to, it is the RIGHT thing to
do,
> > we can't give up on her, this
> > has got to be a sign to us ... how much more can
> > anyone take, her, her parents
> > and us??? I don't know, you all tell me. It is
> > said God will NOT put more
> > on you then you can bare!!! Do you believe that??
> > I think Terri's family is
> > our LIVING PROOF!
> >
> > I have been asked MANY questions about many
> > different things, a lot I can
> > tell you, some I can't and some is just simply NOT
> > important, please trust me. I
> > am in contact with the family and also someone who
> > is closer to this daily!!
> > I will NOT let you be in the dark, you guys made
Jeb
> > Bush act!! He may not
> > have done anything more then PROMISE the family
that
> > he would stop this if at
> > all possible, but WE are making him KEEP his
promise
> > now!!! Trust me, your
> > voices were hear and they were loud! None of you
> > are allowed to get a sore
> > throat now... Keep BOMBARDING Jeb Bush and
everyone
> > I send you email address's
> > to... and keep the faith. Something will happen.
> >
> > For those of you who have asked... Terri is not
> > allowed flowers, teddy bears,
> > a comfortable, soft warm socks, she is allowed
> > NOTHING! She never as had
> > flowers, cards or stuffed animals to brighten her
> > days ... her loving husband
> > Michael will NOT allow it. She is not allowed a
wet
> > wash rag on her lips. They
> > will put Vaseline on mouth. That's it folks.
> > Please read my emails ... this
> > was stated in the past, however I realize many of
> > you have just recently
> > joined this team of Angel's and I do mean ANGELS
...
> > so to those of you who are
> > new...WELCOME, God BLESS YOU and I am sorry we
have
> > too meet like this, all of
> > us.
> >
> > But do you all realize that that sweet woman who
> > even now while she lays
> > dying is bring sooo many good people together.
She
> > is STILL spreading her love,
> > the same love she spread to everyone who knew her
> > before her night of hell.
> > Terri to my knowledge (someone heard this rumor
and
> > ask me) is NOT chained to
> > her bed. She may be restrained because she may
have
> > grand Mal seizers because
> > of the lack of fluid in her system, lets pray not.
> > Which is a reason they may
> > restrain her ... but No she is not chained to the
> > bed. God bless her. :(
> > This is killing many of us too... Precious ones I
> > KNOW how you feel, all of your
> > feeling are sooo real, it hurts!
> >
> > Tomorrow morning at 10 am anyone and everyone who
> > can get up to that hell
> > hole hospice house (God please forgive me as I
know
> > Hospice does do good for
> > many, it has also helped those I've loved and lost
> > in the past) it is just THAT
> > place that has me crazy!! But anyone who can
attend
> > the protest PLEASE, PLEASE
> > go, even if only for 30 minutes, but I assure you,
> > if you go up there or down,
> > whatever the case my be, you'll want to stay for a
> > while, you just will. But
> > then it will weaken you and the feelings of
> > overwhelming sadness will make
> > you want to come home again, but d not let that
stop
> > you, PLEASE!
> >
> > As this family is horrified, grief stricken and
> > slowly dying with their
> > daughter/sister, they will STILL welcome you with
> > open arms!!!!! I promise you
> > that, find them among the crowd or in the camper
> > that is parked right there
> > across the street and tell them who you are and
tell
> > them you are with Lisa and the
> > TERRISHOPE group, They will know exactly who you
> > are, just not your name.
> > Sometimes there are 5 supporters there, sometimes
20
> > sometime 50 and sometimes
> > as many as 200. It changes constantly, but the
more
> > that go, the better. And
> > yes, people stay through the night, all night we
> > did.
> >
> > There are people from all over the world there I
> > swear to you, all the way
> > from Germany! I have met wonderful people, from
> > Colorado, Ga. Nebraska,
> > Washington, Calif. ... all over!! I was sooo
> > touched and I know you will be too...
> > All walks of life, red, yellow, black and white,
> > Jesus had all in his site!! I
> > started everyone singing God bless America,
Amazing
> > Grace, Jesus us loves us,
> > we talked, we prayed, we cried, we paced, we
yelled
> > out Bush save Terri over
> > and over to the lying media! You guys just
weren't
> > lucky enough to hear us
> > because they cut a lot of it out! We yelled out
> > many things, you just take the
> > steps and get everyone to join in ... do not be
> > afraid, someone has to get
> > people there started, but keep it peaceful! And
> > when someone is being
> > interviewed try and stay quiet. You can talk to
> > others about your feelings we all did,
> > many are full of anger, many are silent and just
> > pray and that's okay too.
> >
> > Be advised ... be very ready for someone in the
> > media to interview you,
> > there's a good chance of that, be ready to speak
up,
> > be calm and be clear that
> > Terri is NOT in a coma, that she is not a
vegetable,
> > that she is being murdered
> > and you are there because you want it stopped! Be
> > ready folks! I was
> > interviewed 5 times!! There is media there local
> > and National from all over, although
> > it has really slowed way down, BUT it will pick
back
> > up now that Voters will
> > be shredding their voters registration cards
> > tomorrow and they also will have a
> > Sunday service for Terri. Also there are MANY
> > police officers there, more
> > now then before and honestly I found them all to
be
> > very nice, just do NOT step
> > on the grass that belongs to the hell hole!!! You
> > will be confronted!
> >
> > As for Jeb Bush, YES ... he can and it is his DUTY
> > to stop this, what he has
> > said is political bull caca! HE CAN SAVE HER ...
If
> > he doesn't, I'd hate to
> > be in his shoes. HE NEEDS TO DO THIS and do it
> > YESTERDAY!!!!!!!!!! Believe
> > me, this is TRUE, he CAN do it, it is in his
power!
> > STAY ON him and the others
> > whom I email you about and don't stop fighting
until
> > we no longer have any
> > reason to fight. Then we can deal with the rest
of
> > the evil ones ... they will
> > hang!!
> >
> > Okay, I hope for right now, just for tonight, I
have
> > answered some questions
> > for all of you. I really am trying and this is
all
> > effecting me too... I just
> > want t go into the closet and hide and cover my
> > ears. I can't bare to answer
> > my phone, it scares me, Jinks cell phone rings and
> > we hold our breath with
> > worry. So please believe me, I am really doing my
> > very best to keep you
> > informed at all times about everything, but I
can't
> > tell you things that don't know
> > and I have learned already not to repeat what I
hear
> > unless I hear it from the
> > family, because everyone has a different view on
how
> > they see AND hear things.
> >
> >
> > I am so tired dear ones ... just mentally and
> > emotionally drained and the
> > clock ticks on. It is now 3 AM :( and 89 hours
for
> > Our sister Terri ... without
> > food and water. :( Please keep praying hard for
> > her. Let Jeb Bush know
> > whenever you think about it, send him the hours.
> > Don't let him or his staff
> > forget through out the days. We will get through
> > this together. I will send
> > another update tomorrow and I will do this
everyday
> > if at all possible, more often
> > if I can ... THANK YOU ALL... Tammy you too honey,
> > God loves you ... your
> > doing a great job on our message board and once
> > again for anyone who wants to
> > join the message board that Tammy and I started
(she
> > did the work, I am too dumb
> > with that stuff and it couldn't have done it
> > witrhout her) email me and I can
> > have Tammy get you started.
> >
> > I hope all of you are in bed and resting. Boy, we
> > sure made quite a team
> > here didn't we? Somehow I am not at all
surprised.
> > I PROMISE TO KEEP YOU ALL
> > POSTED with all the news good or bad as soon as I
> > know, you'll know, no matter
> > what it is. May God's Angels keep you safe and
> > surround you with "Our Saviors
> > Love" always, Lisa Pray for Terri PS here is the
> > address for the hell hole
> > hospice hose in Clearwater...
> > Hospice Woodside is located at 6774 102nd Avenue
> > North in Pinellas Park and
> > is just west of 66th Street North.
> > A group of Republican demonstrators are planning
to
> > shred their voter
> > registration cards and officially change their
party
> > affiliations in order to call
> > attention to the Governorâ?Ts refusal to intervene
> > on behalf of Terri
> > Schindler-Schiavo.
> > IF YOU WANT TO BE REMOVED FROM THIS MAILING
> > GROUP...PLEASE EMAIL ME AND TELL
> > ME...I will remove you within 48 hours and I
promise
> > No uestions asked. Also
> > if you delete UPDATES or URGENT emails from me, I
> > will remove your name from
> > the list. God bless you one and all, Lisa
> >
REFS:
Refs:
supremecourt@flcourts.org
Substantive Contacts:
Craig Waters for the Supreme Court, (850) 414-7641,
watersc@flcourts.org Brenda Johnson, for the Office of
the State Courts Administrator, (850) 922-5081,
johnsonb@flcourts.org
Executive Office of Governor, Legal Team to Jeb (ask
to speak to the following individuals):
Robert H. Fernandez (Deputy General Counsel to
Governor) -> fernanr@eog.state.fl.us
Raquel A. Rodriguez (General Counsel to Governor) ->
raquel.rodriguez@myflorida.com
Christa Calamas (Assistant General Counsel to
Governor) -> calamac@eog.state.fl.us
850 / 488-3494 (voice)
850 / 488-9810 (fax)
Jeb Bush, Governor ->
jeb@myflorida.com,jeb.bush@myflorida.com
Voice: (850)488-4441
Voice: (850)488-7146
Fax: (850)487-0801
Executive Office of the Governor
400 S. Monroe Street
The Capitol
Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0001
Ask to speak to Lauren O'Conner
Attorney General Charlie Crist -> ag@oag.state.fl.us
Office of Attorney General Charlie Crist
State of Florida
The Capitol PL-01
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
Main office telephone numbers
Voice: (850)414-3990
Fax: (850)487-2564
Additional added note:
A criminal investigation needs to be conducted by John
Ashcroft. Please demand of President Bush to initiate
an investigation so that Mr. Ashcroft can get
involved:
President George W. Bush
c/o The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
N.W. Washington, D.C. 20500
Voice: (202)456-1111
Switchboard: (202)456-1414
Fax: 1 202 456 2883
TTY/TDD Comments: 202-456-6213
Visitors Office: 202-456-2121
Although you'll get an automated response, here are
the e-mails for GW and Cheney:
President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov
Vice President Richard Cheney:
vice.president@whitehouse.gov
Fax: 1 202 456 2710
United States Attorney General John Ashcroft:
(AskDOJ@usdoj.gov)
Fax:202/514-1009
NOTE: Free faxing for entire Washington D.C. area:
www.tpc.int/sendfax.html
Format of number to input is:
(ex. Pres. U.S. [POTUS]) -> 1 202 456 2461
(ex. Ashcroft) -> 1 202 514 1009
Vice Pres. Dick Cheney 1 202 456 2710
U.S. Senator John W Warner
1 202 224 6295
U.S. Senator Bob Graham
1 202 224 2237
House Representative Corrine Brown
1 202 225 2256
House Representative Henry Hyde
1 202 225 1166
etc.
U.S. Senate:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_informat ion/senators_cfm.
Saturday, October 18, 2003 5:29 PM
People needed at Hospice Woodside, and also in Wash. DC. at the Whitehouse at 3PM and wherever you can
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