1 posted on 10/17/2003 1:25:54 PM PDT by wheelgunguru

To: wheelgunguru

2 posted on 10/17/2003 1:29:15 PM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)

To: wheelgunguru

Sending prayers for the family.

3 posted on 10/17/2003 1:29:37 PM PDT by scourge

To: wheelgunguru

They need to teach survival skills to people that live in rural areas.

4 posted on 10/17/2003 1:29:55 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Stop acting like Richard Cranium)

To: wheelgunguru

"All the searchers have been told he may not be standing or walking; he may be lying down."

Kinda of a stupid quote to put in an article after he’s been found dead.

Poor kid. I wandered around the woods quite a bit when I was 10. Of course, in New Jersey, you can’t walk too far in the woods without hitting a road.

The fact that he was found only two miles away is heartbreaking.

5 posted on 10/17/2003 1:33:49 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)

To: wheelgunguru

Yet it should be easy to find Saddam and Osama in hostile areas the size of Texas and Iowa, when they do not want to be found.

6 posted on 10/17/2003 1:35:53 PM PDT by Teacher317

To: wheelgunguru

As a dad to a 2 year old son and another on the way I can barely read about these incidents without wanting to cry. The poor little guy. I can't imagine how he must have felt. So sad.

9 posted on 10/17/2003 1:47:42 PM PDT by Ribeye (Meet the twins....Pete& Re-Pete. My consecutive numbered Vaquero's...)

To: wheelgunguru

This is heart breaking. My prayers for the family!

10 posted on 10/17/2003 1:47:59 PM PDT by Sunshine Sister

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14 posted on 10/17/2003 1:53:01 PM PDT by JustPiper (Curses to the Billy Goat and The Bambino !!!)

To: wheelgunguru

Sad. Just yesterday I took a survival class in Mineral Wells State Park (TX). It was for a group of homeschoolers, so it was dumbed down for the little kids, but the info was still useful...

Here's a tip that'll help in this situation: Take trash bags with you when you hike, two at least. If it starts to rain, you can step into one so it covers your lower body, poke a face hole in another, and put it over the top of your body. It keeps out rain, blocks wind, and keeps in heat.

They did a display of jars filled with water that was 100 degrees. They put a t-shirt sleeve over one, a wool sleeve over another, a sweatpants leg over one, and a tshirt sleeve + wool sleeve + trash bag over the last one. Then they poured water over them and set them in front of fans. We went away for two hours, and when we came back, the last one had only lost 4 degrees (versus the 25-30 degrees the other jars lost).

Just a helpful hint. Also bring a whistle and a mirror.

16 posted on 10/17/2003 1:58:13 PM PDT by 4mycountry (Here's to Bush '04, Mr. Limbaugh, the outlawing of speedos and the banning of kiddie animes! *glug*)

To: wheelgunguru

Darn near impossible to keep warm even with the right stuff
if you don't know how to stay dry.

That rain really dropped his chances.
Remember when you FEEL COLD, you already are in the first stage of hypothermia,
PUT SOMETHING ON!
If you are starting to shiver and shake, you are in the second stage and are already in a position to start making BAD decisions.
PUT SOMETHING ON, eat something HOT!.
Even then it will take some time for you to reaclimate.
If you are shaking uncontrolably and teeth are chattering,
If you are dazed, and confused, you're chance of surviving
even near freezing temps is VERY VERY BAD.

19 posted on 10/17/2003 2:05:14 PM PDT by tet68 (multiculturalism is an ideological academic fantasy maintained in obvious bad faith. M. Thompson)

To: wheelgunguru

Very important information that everyone should read and share with their child!

Lost in the Woods
The 9 Rules for Survival

SARBC

Search and Rescue Society of British Columbia

Lost in the Woods - The 9 Rules for Survival

by Gary O'Brien, SARBC

PREPARE YOURSELF and YOUR CHILD

Child survival needs adult assistance. You can help children learn what to do if they get lost in the woods, by discussing and practicing the "Rules for Survival". Nobody ever expects to get lost, but it happens. Hopefully, this information will insure a safe return of your child should this misfortune ever occur. The Rules are presented in a way which children can understand. A definition of Survival: Staying WARM and DRY, while waiting to be found.

Stay Together, DO NOT Separate - if with a friend or pet.
The reason for this rule is body heat. Cuddling up to a large dog or friend will help keep you warm. If with a dog, do not let it run loose, it can help you more by staying close and providing heat and companionship.
Stay in one place or area. DO NOT WANDER!
This is the MOST important rule of them all. If you wander - We Can not Find You. One reason is that people looking for you move very slowly while searching for clues. If you are out front running along, we won't be able to catch up. Another reason for not wandering is the possibility of falling and hurting yourself while travelling. Being lost and hurt could be tragic.
Keep Warm.
This rule means to keep warm with the clothes you are wearing. NEVER take any clothes off. Cover up all the exposed skin you can. If you are wearing a sweater or jacket, do it up. Watch out for your shoe laces. Branches have a tricky way of undoing them. The most important part of your clothing is a hat or something that covers your head. Over 70% of all your body heat escapes through your head.
Find a Cozy Waiting Place, Not a Hiding Place.
A cozy waiting place means, a warm place out of the wind and rain but not a place where searchers can not see you. Under a large tree is a good place.
Put Out Something Bright.
Put out something bright or make something to tell people searching for you where you are. Make a flag using what you have, but Do Not Take Off Any Clothes to do so. Some suggestions are white paper, money, hair ribbons, a strip from an orange garbage bag, etc. Spell the word "HELP" or "SOS" on the ground using rocks and sticks or make a large arrow with them, pointing to where you are. Do anything to attract attention!
Look Bigger For Searchers.
If possible, your waiting place should be near an open space. When you hear someone coming, move to the middle of the clearing and call. Do Not Run in the direction of the noise. If it is an aircraft you heard, lie down so the pilot has a bigger target to look at. Then wave with both your arms and legs, like making an angel in the snow. Stand up immediately after the aircraft has passed, as the ground can be very cold.
Do Not Lie on the Bare Ground.
The only exception to this rule is the one above. Laying on the cold ground for a very short period of time, attracting attention, is OK. Being in direct contact with the ground for any length of time is dangerous. The cold ground can rob precious body heat from you. Build a mattress using available materials such as branches, moss, leaves, etc. This mattress should be as thick as the mattress you sleep on at home! After the mattress is completed, gather the same amount or more, of the same material and use it for the blankets. This is called a survival bed.
Do Not Eat Anything you are not sure of.
Do Not eat any berries, mushrooms or anything else unless you are 100% sure what they are. Being hungry is not too bad of a feeling compared with being violently sick. And remember, there won't be anyone there to look after you. You can go without food for a long time, but you cannot go without water.
Stay Away from Large Rivers and Lakes.
You must have drinking water to survive, but be careful where you get it from. Do Not go near any large bodies of water. Instead, drink from a water supply that is smaller than you are, so you can not fall in. Another source of water can be found on leaves in the form of dew.