Militia member 'filled with rage,' plotted ambush

The Grand Rapids Press ^ | Friday, October 17, 2003 | Ed White

[from occupied ga]

Your positions are so far out of step of the American political fabric that they are damaging to the conservative movement.

What would a liberal democrat like you know about "conservative?" If you think you're a conservative, you need to up your medication. Your viewpoint vis a vie firearms is dead on with the Democratic party/Sara Brady. Do you live in New York City? If not, you should. they all think just like you do there, and as evidence they elected upChuckie Schumer and Hitlery Clinton. Democrats are socialists/liberals, not conservatives.

Since you are (deludedly) claiming that "conservatives" want more gun control, and upChuckie Schumer, Fat Teddy Kennedy, Diane Feinslime all want more gun control, then by your bizarre "logic" they are all conservatives. I understand that you hate and fear guns, freedom and love big government. Many people do, but don't try and pass yourself off as a conservative because you ain't.

[af_vet_1981]

I am a conservative Republican. You are someone who wants to extend 2nd Amendment rights to tanks, aircraft, and Weapons of Mass Destruction. I can't believe you expect anyone who is normal to take you seriously.

[from occupied ga]

I am a conservative Republican

LOL. You are nothing of the sort unless Schumer, Feinstein, Kennedy, Waxman, Clinton, Rangel, McCarthy etc are also conservative Republicans. What you are is either a lying troll from DU or a totally self-deluded statist and to be pitied. On second thought you might be a Republican. There are hard left statist Republicans, McCain and Chaffee come to mind. But conservative? No way. Conservative my a$$.

I got a little history lesson fer ya, liberal. Until 1934 there were no restrictions of any sort on any arms that could be possessed by citizens of the US. The artificial concept of "destructive device" as something that the BATF uses for an excuse to harass citizens didn't come into effect until 1968. The 1994 semiauto ban is just 9 years old. So until relatively recently Americans did have the freedom to select weapons of all sorts. SO yes historically speaking and constitutionaly speaking, the second amendment means just what it says, and outside of NYC and the Peoples' Democracies of CA, RI, MA, NJ, IL and MD people do believe the Bill of Rights means what it says. (Except for you)

[kidd]

Now the the shoe is on the other foot it makes a difference?

From the view of the Secret Service - no it doesn't make a difference.

And I really doubt that you can find a picture of any President (past or present), with cross hairs, that hasn't been pulled by a moderator.

[af_vet_1981]

Thank you for confirming that you are arguing for Weapons of Mass Destruction for any citizen as part of the 2nd Amendment. The issue is crystal clear.

[af_vet_1981]

483 posted on 11/03/2003 4:40 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)

I hadn't noticed your signature until now. I recommend you obtain spiritual help before we read something bad about you in the news.

[from occupied ga]

I hadn't noticed your signature until now. I recommend you obtain spiritual help before we read something bad about you in the news.

Ah yes the sanctimonious hypocrisy of the left. I suggest you stop lying to the rest of us (and maybe yourself too for all I know) and come out of the closet and revel in your liberal communism. Or do you still contend that your identical beliefs to Schemer, Feinstein, Rangel, Waxman, Kennedy, Clinton, etc make you a "conservative republican" just like they are? You must think everyone else on this forum is pretty dumb if you think that we're going to believe that someone (that would be you) who has stated his belief in the Democratic party platform is a "conservative republican".

That had to have been the Soviet air force. I would recommend that you get help, but there isn't any know cure for your condition. Just keep reading and believing the "conservative republican" editorial pages of the Washington Post and the LA Times. You echo their sentiments.

[dcwusmc]

I can see that you yet have nothing to offer to this discussion which, even accidentally, smacks of logic and reason.

However, I will say again, for possible penetration, that ANY politician, no matter WHERE they are from, who wants power over me and wants me disarmed is utterly unworthy of being trusted as DOG CATCHER. And any drooling sycophant of theirs harbors an agenda which will not bear the scrutiny of daylight. And if I mangle their name, RAT Liberal, it is because they wish to mangle the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and it is better to mangle their names than to threaten to (or actually) mangle THEM, even if it is deserved. But you go on deluding yourself that you are a Conservative and get all incensed at those of us who really WANT to conserve the Constitutional Republic the founders handed us. And even as the Marine Corps has bailed your nasty a$$es out of many a sticky situation in the past, I guess I can afford to do it one more time. But if you persist in declaring yourself enemy to the Republic and the Constitution, you can be sure it'll be the LAST time you get bailed out.
So. Now you have it. A politician or its drooling sycophant who does not want to trust me to own ANY arm of my choice is not worthy of my trust or ANYONE ELSE'S trust. If I should, for whatever reason, MISUSE that arm, I am surely subject to punishment, should I survive. But ownership and possession are guaranteed (not granted) by the Second Amendment to the Constitution for the United States and that is NOT subject to interpretation by the DiFi's or the UpChucks of the nation, OR their toadying minions. OK, Minion?

[af_vet_1981]

A politician or its drooling sycophant who does not want to trust me to own ANY arm of my choice is not worthy of my trust or ANYONE ELSE'S trust.

Fortunately the vast majority of the American people, as well as the Armed Forces do not agree with you. I hope you find a way to mitigate the madness you are proposing without hurting others. Does your church share your view that WMDs are for any citizen who wants them ?

[Joshh86]

Slap? what do those do?

[Joshh86]

That (300 win mag) is a "high powered sniper rifle"

[Joshh86]

My dad has to get the local police chiefs approval every time he purchases a cap n ball revovler here in mich.

[Dan from Michigan]

"Permit to purcharse". If you want to own a pistol you need to go to the police or sheriff(where I went for my .45) station and get the background check. Then I used that to get the gun, which I took back to the sheriff's department for a 'safety inspection'(Registration).

Thank the Klan back in the 1920's for that law.

[from occupied ga]

SLAP = Saboted Light Armor Penetrator - Pretty successful in .50 BMG. These are .22 or .25 cal tungsten penetrator in plastic sabot. Just how a stryker would fare against these is probably classified, but I have no doubt that they'd chew up a m113. I read on the rbcd website (table since removed) that their version of this ammo had a muzzle velocity of 5900 fps. Also heard that they aren't as accurate as .50 BMG ball.

[Joshh86]

T/y

P.S. stryker looks pretty tough