To: CSM
Well, Mr. Milloy seems to be telling us (without evidence) that second-hand tobacco smoke has
no ill effects, which is nearly as dishonest as the claim he's addressing here.
It would be very interesting to see a study on health insurance claims and/or absences in workplaces, before and after the building went smoke-free.
If the general trend is anything like it was in the building where I was working when it happened, there should be a dramatic difference.
(As for me personally, once the building was smoke-free I no longer had to use my inhalers at work).
6 posted on
10/17/2003 9:56:54 AM PDT by
r9etb
To: r9etb
Well, Mr. Milloy seems to be telling us (without evidence) that second-hand tobacco smoke has no ill effects, which is nearly as dishonest as the claim he's addressing here. It doesn't seem like he's saying that at all. It seems like he is following the normal scientific method of not proclaiming theories to be valid unless they have been tested and proven.
14 posted on
10/17/2003 10:09:27 AM PDT by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along.)
To: r9etb
It is safe to say that you could not work as a groundskeeper in spring in Nashville, but that doesn't mean that the government can present false evidence to bolster its shaky basis for usurpation of private freedom; in your workplace a reasonable accomodation could easily been made had you requested one through a Congressionally-mandated Act - the ADA; did you ever approach your employer along these lines prior to the smoking ban being put in place at your workplace?
To: r9etb
When I got life insurance, they asked me if I or anyone in my house smoked. Why?
To: r9etb
r9etb said: "Well, Mr. Milloy seems to be telling us (without evidence) that second-hand tobacco smoke has no ill effects, which is nearly as dishonest as the claim he's addressing here. "
Really?
Could you point out where that claim is made?
I don't see it. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
The author is pointing out that there is an absence of evidence that reduction of SHS in Helena caused a reduction in heart disease. Pointing out that science has not been done does not constitute science in and of itself. The burden is squarely on those who claim to have proven a connection.
To: r9etb
(As for me personally, once the building was smoke-free I no longer had to use my inhalers at work). That happens a lot to psychosomatics.
117 posted on
10/17/2003 2:04:23 PM PDT by
Publius6961
(40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
To: r9etb
Well, Mr. Milloy seems to be telling us (without evidence) that second-hand tobacco smoke has no ill effects,No he isn't. Nor anything like it. But nice try.
Strawman
338 posted on
10/22/2003 10:19:20 AM PDT by
Protagoras
(Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
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