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Top U.S. General Says Muslims Worship 'Idol'; Islamic group calls for Reassignment
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Posted on 10/16/2003 6:49:20 PM PDT by chance33_98

Top U.S. General Says Muslims Worship 'Idol'; Islamic group calls for Reassignment Over 'Extremist' Views

10/16/03 2:18:00 PM

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Contact: Ibrahim Hooper, 202-488-8787, 202-744-7726, or cair@cair-net.org; Rabiah Ahmed, 202-488-8787, 202-439-1441, or rahmed@cair-net.org; both of CAIR

WASHINGTON, Oct. 16 /U.S. Newswire/ -- A prominent national Islamic civil rights and advocacy group today called for the reassignment of a top U.S. general who says he is in "the army of God" and claims Muslims worship an "idol."

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is responding to investigative reports by the Los Angeles Times and NBC News that paint Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin as an "intolerant extremist...who believes that Islam is an idolatrous, sacrilegious religion against which we are waging a holy war." In a discussion of his efforts to capture a Muslim Somali warlord, Boykin said, "I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol."

Speaking in uniform before a Christian group in June, Boykin claimed "radical Islamists" hate America "because we're a Christian nation, because our foundation and our roots are Judeo-Christian...and the enemy is a guy named Satan." Our "spiritual enemy," Boykin said, "will only be defeated if we come against them in the name of Jesus."

Boykin, the new deputy undersecretary of defense for intelligence, is assigned to track down Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and other high-profile targets in the Muslim world.

SEE: "The Pentagon Unleashes a Holy Warrior" and "General Casts War in Religious Terms" at http://www.latimes.com/. Search using the term "Boykin."

SEE ALSO: "Quotes from Gen. Boykin Speeches," http://www.msnbc.com/news/980841.asp and "Top Terrorist Hunter's Divisive Views," http://www.msnbc.com/news/980764.asp.

"Putting a man with such extremist views in a critical policy-making position sends entirely the wrong message to a Muslim world that is already skeptical about America's motives and intentions," said CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad.

"Everyone is entitled to their own religious beliefs, no matter how ill-informed or bigoted, but those beliefs should not be allowed to color important decisions that need to be made in the war on terrorism. General Boykin should be reassigned to a position in which he will not be able to harm our nation's image or interests."

Awad said Muslims worship the same God as Christians and Jews. He noted that Arabic language Bibles use the word "Allah" when referring to God and quoted the Quran, Islam's revealed text, which states: "Say ye: 'We believe in God and the revelation given to us and to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between one and another of them and it is unto Him that we surrender ourselves.'" (Quran, 2:136)

"We call on Americans of all faiths to reject any attempts to turn the war on terrorism into a religious crusade. President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld should also take this opportunity to further distance themselves from those who actively promote the clash of civilizations and religions," said Awad. CAIR, America's largest Islamic civil liberties group, is headquartered in Washington, D.C., and has 16 offices nationwide and in Canada.

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NOTE: CAIR offers an e-mail list designed to be a journalist's window to the American Muslim community. Subscribers to the list, called ISLAM-INFONET, receive news releases and other materials dealing with American Muslim positions on issues of importance to our society.

To SUBSCRIBE to or UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, go to: http://cair.biglist.com/islam-infonet/.

To reach the list moderator, send a message to: cair@cair-net.org.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clashofcivilization; enemy; islam; judeochristian; radicalislam; satan; williamboykin

1 posted on 10/16/2003 6:49:21 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Boykin claimed "radical Islamists" hate America "because we're a Christian nation, because our foundation and our roots are Judeo-Christian

The good general is blaspheming the name of Jesus. A "Christian" nation that murders one-third of its own babies? Come, come.

2 posted on 10/16/2003 6:53:51 PM PDT by findingtruth
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To: chance33_98
I wish this were a christian nation
3 posted on 10/16/2003 6:55:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Please visit www.geocities.com/geronl and http://freestateparty.50megs.com)
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To: chance33_98
I think the general should be promoted. His comments about Muslims seem kind to me, considering what we have just experienced on 9/11 and what is going on in the middle east right now. Give the man another star!!
4 posted on 10/16/2003 6:59:06 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: chance33_98
The newspaper is deliberatly stirring this up. Trying to make it impossible for Christians to publicly discuss their faith. When CAIR starts condemning the thing that the imams say about the United STates, their opinion might start to mean something.
5 posted on 10/16/2003 7:00:38 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer
You should check out the actual exchange between Myers/Rumsfeld and the reporters:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1002541/posts

They were really testy, all over Rumsfeld. You get the sense they think they're smelling blood in the water.
6 posted on 10/16/2003 7:10:40 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: lady lawyer
Speaking in uniform before a Christian group in June,

This bothers me. I am a Christian and I serve proudly in the United States Marine Corps and I have given readings in church and have been in heated exchanges about religion in public forums. I, however, do not do it in uniform. By doing so, it gives an air of approval or sanction by the US Government. I know the government did not pre-approve his comments, but being in uniform and making despairing (or if that is too-harse let's say "less than flattering") comments about other religions is improper.

Now before I am flamed non-stop, tell me how many here would not be screaming from the highest roof-tops if a Muslim service member, general grade in uniform, said that Christians worship a dead man, and that he was fighting a war in Allah's army?

7 posted on 10/16/2003 7:18:29 PM PDT by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: lady lawyer
I think we should ask Salmon Rushdie how much Muslims believe in free speech of any kind. Obviously they don't believe in freedom of speech or much of anything found in the US Constitution.
8 posted on 10/16/2003 7:23:41 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: dpa5923
if a Muslim service member, general grade in uniform, said that Christians worship a dead man, and that he was fighting a war in Allah's army?

Except allah's army has declared a jihad against the USA so there would be reason not to have such a Muslim service member in uniform. If the Vatican or some other Christian group sends 19 terrorists to kill as many Americans as they possibly can --- then that Christian group should be suspect too.

9 posted on 10/16/2003 7:26:18 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: chance33_98
Hey, CAIR, it is a religious crusade. I cleaned up what I wanted to say.
10 posted on 10/16/2003 7:33:43 PM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: chance33_98
Reading the General's comments I don't see what the fuss is about.

It seems that his claims are as follows:

1) The US is a Christian nation - Well most Americans are Christians and our nation was founded by Christians, so neither a false or even questionable statement.

2) We are at war with radical Islam - Again obviously true, remember 9/11 anyone?

3) Radical Islamists are servants of Satan - Here there can be disagreement obviously, but if you are a Christian, how can you not see mass murdering butchers as servants of Satan?

Further, if the murderous and depraved actions of the Islamists is not to be considered part of Islam in general, how is calling them servants of Satan a slur on Islam in general?

This is, not surprisingly, much ado about nothing.
11 posted on 10/16/2003 7:44:52 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: chance33_98
Boykin said, "I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol."

A man after God's own heart. How refreshing.

12 posted on 10/16/2003 7:53:36 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: chance33_98
"Awad said Muslims worship the same God as Christians and Jews."

Then why do Mulims call Christians and Jews "unbelievers" and "infidels"?

13 posted on 10/16/2003 7:54:03 PM PDT by etcetera
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To: etcetera
Excellent point!
14 posted on 10/16/2003 7:55:04 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: chance33_98
Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin <<-- at least theres one guy over there that has read the Qu'ran and/or the Hadith(s) and studied the culture..

The study of Islam is veritable crotchology and you're mind must be wiped often....

A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate; sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister.--Ayatollah Khomeini

A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.--Ayatollah Khomeini

(Quotes above are from Khomeini's book, Tahrirolvasyleh, vol. 4, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990, Source: Homa)

15 posted on 10/16/2003 8:32:47 PM PDT by hosepipe
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To: etcetera
Yes and why are Muslims called to oppose and fight or kill unbelievers and infidels if they do not submit to Islam? Hmmmmmm?
16 posted on 10/16/2003 10:16:27 PM PDT by Gal.5:1 (living in L-land)
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