[BCrago66]

Has in occurred to you that the only thing that distinguishes you from those who dies in the desert is luck?

[f7Oshawn]

huh?

[Just another Joe]

Has in occurred to you that the only thing that distinguishes you me from those who die in the desert is luck common sense?

If you are going to trek across the desert you better make some preparation first. These people don't know what they are getting into. They are just walking and hoping. They know nothing about desert travel.

That's in addition to the fact that the very first thing they are doing is breaking the law of the country they are trying to get into.

[Semaphore Heathcliffe]

Has it ever occured to you that the only thing that distinguishes you from those who die running across busy interstate highways is luck?

[jpl]

Has in occurred to you that the only thing that distinguishes you from those who dies in the desert is luck?

Bullsh*t. Not a single, solitary one of these souls needs to die of dehydration out in the middle of desert. If they had more respect for our country and the rule of law, they'd come legally across a border station and go through the process of becoming a citizen the proper way. Running out of water wouldn't be a problem.

[Lazamataz]

Has in occurred to you that the only thing that distinguishes you from those who dies in the desert is luck?

Yeah, well, that and not trying to illegally cross into a foreign nation.

[Jubal Harshaw]

Has in occurred to you that the only thing that distinguishes you from those who dies in the desert is luck?

Yes, it has. And I have a thought that makes me think it's not luck alone. Of course, my thought might be just a rationalization, but here it is:

The illegal immigrants who cross in the desert are not representative of Mexican society. They are the people who have nothing to loose, no rescources to come a safer way, and not enough sense to at least avoid the most dangerous of dangerous ways without even a jug of water. All that implies that they are more likely than average to be the outcasts of Mexican society: the criminals, the illiterate, the stupid.

As an aside, I work with Mexicans all day long, and I believe that such a characterization is an accurate description of the illegals, though not of Mexicans overall.

So, perhaps it's not just luck. Perhaps the people who are dying in the desert are, in some way, actually different from me.

You might make the argument that "it's not their fault that they are illiterate or uneducated, or just plain stupid. It's their society's fault, and it's just a matter of luck that they were born into that society, so, therefore, luck is all that separates them from us." I think that is simply begging the question.

OK, so they come from a society of ... how can I put this ... knuckleheads. I grant you that. However, many people and cultures have survived amid a society of knuckleheads to become educated and prosperous. Jews are, of course, a great example, but there are millions of examples of people who managed to (for example) learn to read even though their parents were illiterate. Therefore, it can be done. The ones do not plan ahead, who do not act sensibly, who do not prepare for disasters (i.e., the ones who are dying in the desert) probably could have learned to plan ahead, even though they came from a society of knuckleheads. In other words, that they did not learn to plan ahead is not just a matter of luck, but at least partially their own fault.

The corrolary to that is that these people are, luck aside, exactly the kind you don't want in the country.

Well, that's my analysis for now. I am typing as fast as I can; gotta go to work in a few minutes. Feel free (as I'm sure you will) to pick my argument apart.

[RoughDobermann]

Has in occurred to you that the only thing that distinguishes you from those who dies in the desert is luck?

How about those of us that legally immigrated to this great country?

[Little Ray]

And an unwillingness to break the law or invade somebody else's country?

[steve8714]

They are better off than the elderly in France.
We also have more traffic deaths in a holiday weekend.
This is a high risk undertaking.
Do we have independent verification that these people were all "starving"in their home countries? Or, were some of them carrying other than rosaries in their sacks? Of course, we would not hear about these, would we?
Perhaps if these countries weren't gun controlled, the folks wouldn't feel the need to leave.
Perhaps the reason revolution is so common in Latin America is that it is needed from time to time.

[Old Professer]

If he or you are under the age of 30 you have already survived much greater odds.

[Old Professer]

If he or you are under the age of 30 you have already survived much greater odds.

[johnb838]

Are you a liberal Republican?

[gc4nra]

"Has in occurred to you that the only thing that distinguishes you from those who dies in the desert is luck?"


...or maybe common sense?

[ought-six]

"Has in occurred to you that the only thing that distinguishes you from those who dies in the desert is luck?"

Luck? Luck has nothing to do with making the choice to illegaly invade another country. It is a conscious decision, and with it comes consequences.

[Paulus Invictus]

Luck? Not really. Making the illegal trip across the worst desert is a choice they make. It's their bad luck to make that choice. I would never think of doing that, especially in the summer.