[swarthyguy]

>>no more handouts of any kind for those who have not been USA citizens for a minimum of 20 years. We'll see if the illegals and new immigrants say that sounds like a good policy. They won't.



Well, of course, not. It's stupid. If you become a citizen, you take the lumps and the gravy. Why 20 years? Why not make it a lifetime? No naturalised citizens should get any.

Of course, you may wish to talk to the grandees of the Republican Party concerning their viewpoint on illegal immigration.

Again, when people like you use the wedge of illegal immigration to rail against legal immigration, your credibility diminishes.

Blurring the two issues does not help in coming to a resolution of the illegal crisis. It just loses you the support of people who have strong concerns about the levels of illegals in this country.

[FITZ]

Again, when people like you use the wedge of illegal immigration to rail against legal immigration, your credibility diminishes.

Maybe it's because of where I live ---- many many many immigrants --- legal, illegal, and semi-legal are here on welfare programs, you see families with 6 or 7 youngs kids and their pregnant mother in the grocery stores proudly pulling out their "Lone Star" food stamp card and only 33% of the population here bothers with private insurance --- the rest get their health care at no cost to themselves. I don't even distinguish much between legal and illegal anymore. The only immigrants I have any respect for are those who work for their own living ---- I'd take a self-reliant illegal who is accessing no government program (but also not using stolen social security numbers or commiting other felony document fraud) over a legal immigrant who does.

[Lazamataz]

Again, when people like you use the wedge of illegal immigration to rail against legal immigration, your credibility diminishes.

When people like you use the wedge of legal immigration to lobby for illegal immigration, YOUR credibility vanishes.