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Malaysian Urges Muslims to Unite Vs. Jews (religion of peace alert)
Yahoo! News ^ | October 16, 2003 | ROHAN SULLIVAN

Posted on 10/16/2003 7:49:35 AM PDT by El Conservador

PUTRAJAYA, Malaysia - Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad on Thursday told a summit of Islamic leaders that "Jews rule the world by proxy" and the world's 1.3 billion Muslims should unite, using nonviolent means for a "final victory."

His speech at the Organization of the Islamic Conference summit, which he was hosting, drew criticism from Jewish leaders, who warned it could spark more violence against Jews.

Mahathir, who is known for his outspoken, anti-Western rhetoric, criticized what he described as Jewish domination of the world and Muslim nations' inability to adequately respond to it as he opened the meeting of Islamic leaders from 57 nations.

"The Europeans killed 6 million Jews out of 12 million, but today the Jews rule the world by proxy," Mahathir said. "They get others to fight and die for them."

Malaysia, a democratic nation which has a large non-Muslim population and does not enforce strict Islamic law, has long been a critic of Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories and of U.S. policy in the Middle East, including the war in Iraq (news - web sites) and its strong backing of the Jewish state.

Mahathir, 77, who is retiring on Oct. 31, has used almost every international podium to lambaste the West for two decades, winning a reputation as an outspoken champion of Third World causes.

"For well over half a century we have fought over Palestine. What have we achieved? Nothing. We are worst off than before," he said. "If we had paused to think, then we could have devised a plan, a strategy that can win us final victory."

The prime minister, who has turned his country into the world's 17th-ranked trading nation during his 22 years in power, said Jews "invented socialism, communism, human rights and democracy" to avoid persecution and gain control of the most powerful countries.

Mahathir added that "1.3 billion Muslims cannot be defeated by a few million Jews," but he suggested using political and economic tactics instead of violence.

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Jonathan Peled expressed disappointment in the remarks but said he wasn't surprised.

"It is not new that in such forums there is always an attempt to reach of the lowest common denominator which is Israel bashing," he said in Jerusalem. "But obviously we'd like to see more moderate and responsible kind of declarations coming out of such summits."

Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, said Mahathir has used anti-Israel statements in the past to prove he's tough on the West. But, he said, Thursday's speech was still worrisome.

"What is profoundly shocking and worrying is the venue of the speech, the audience and coming in the time we're living in," Cooper said during a visit to Jerusalem. "Mahathir's speech today is an absolute invitation for more hate crimes and terrorism against Jews. That's serious."

U.S. Ambassador to Malaysia Marie Huhtala declined to comment on Mahathir's speech. Washington was angered over a speech he made in February, as host of the Non-Aligned Movement of 117 countries, in which he described the looming war against Iraq as racist.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai said he supported Mahathir's analysis, which also included steps for how Muslim nations can develop economically and socially.

"It is great to hear Prime Minister Mahathir speak so eloquently on the problems of the ummah (Muslim world) and ways to remedy them," Karzai said. "His speech was an eye-opener to a lot of us and that is what the Islamic world should do."

The summit is the first since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks reshaped global politics and comes at a time when many Muslims — even U.S. allies — feel the war on terrorism has become a war against them.

"It is well known that the Islamic community is being targeted today more than at any other time before in its creed, culture and social and political orientation," said Qatar's ruler, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, who hosted the U.S. headquarters in the Iraq war.

The status of Iraq also proved a divisive issue. Malaysia resisted inviting the U.S.-picked Iraqi Governing Council, describing it as a puppet of American occupation. But Arab countries that have recognized the interim body prevailed and council representatives were attending the summit.

Leaders attending the summit included Jordan's King Abullah, Syrian President Bashar Assad, Morocco's King Mohammed VI, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri.

Russian President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) and Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo (news - web sites) are attending as special observers because of their large Muslim minorities.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; mahathirmohamad; malaysia; unity
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Speaks for itself...
1 posted on 10/16/2003 7:49:36 AM PDT by El Conservador
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To: El Conservador
Hamid Karzai's comments are unsettling. After everything we have done to free the Afghanis from the tyranny of the Taliban, we put this clown in charge and he seems ready to pick up where the Taliban left off.

This is not good.
2 posted on 10/16/2003 7:55:45 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: DustyMoment
"Final Victory" sound alot like "Final Solution". The only final victory will be when we destroy all these and islam has a reformation. (ever notice how whiney muslims-a billion strong-have an excuse for everything?)
3 posted on 10/16/2003 8:01:12 AM PDT by joltinjoe
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To: DustyMoment
Hamid Karzai's comments are unsettling. After everything we have done to free the Afghanis from the tyranny of the Taliban, we put this clown in charge and he seems ready to pick up where the Taliban left off.

It depends on which part of the speech he was agreeing with. Note, the Malaysian leader also spoke about economics

which also included steps for how Muslim nations can develop economically and socially.

If he's limiting his agreement to the economic policies, I have no problem with it. If he's agreeing with everything else, he's an ingrate.

5 posted on 10/16/2003 8:04:38 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
The Islamics are untrustworthy. Even the Turks betrayed us at a critical moment.
6 posted on 10/16/2003 8:26:31 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Israel!)
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To: zx2dragon; SJackson; yonif; Alouette
ping
7 posted on 10/16/2003 9:05:31 AM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: Yehuda
Islam, except for a Turkish mode will be extinct by the year 2100.
8 posted on 10/16/2003 9:22:33 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: El Conservador
. . . which also included steps for how Muslim nations can develop economically and socially."

An empty phrase to deflect condemnation from the world for its terrorism. After all these centuries of violence, they want to learn how to be social? Not possible. Islam does not allow for equality -- only superiority. You won't teach that old dog new tricks.

10 posted on 10/16/2003 10:03:52 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: El Conservador; aristeides; swarthyguy; Grampa Dave; okie01; pokerbuddy0; seamole; Sabertooth; ...
The prime minister, who has turned his country into the world's 17th-ranked trading nation during his 22 years in power, said Jews "invented socialism, communism, human rights and democracy" to avoid persecution and gain control of the most powerful countries.

The Malaysian minister is off-message for the West. He forgot to exclaim "neo-cons!.

;)

Those jews and their evil human rights and democracy! His ranting does sound like Adolph - Malaysia, I believe, is a democracy. Is he setting up for a change to dictatorship?

11 posted on 10/16/2003 10:21:56 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Well, y''know, its that fringe extremist element again.

That vile Arab crap has not only thoroughly infected the Pakistanis but has now reached further east.

Well, as long as America keeps sheltering the Saudis, this ideology wil be spread.
12 posted on 10/16/2003 10:33:53 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: seamole
thanks for the ping. The government of Malaysia is an anti-Semitic, Nazi one.
17 posted on 10/16/2003 11:02:43 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: El Conservador
PUTRAJAYA, Malaysia - Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad on Thursday told a summit of Islamic leaders that "Jews rule the world by proxy" and the world's 1.3 billion Muslims should unite, using nonviolent means for a "final victory."

And they use this power to get Palestinians to kill their citizens. /Duh

18 posted on 10/16/2003 11:08:28 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: seamole
"see the insidious joos control the world. why? why not us?"
from post 13
{24. We are now 1.3 billion strong. We have the biggest oil reserve in the world. We have great wealth. We are not as ignorant as the Jahilliah who embraced Islam. We are familiar with the workings of the world's economy and finances. We control 57 out of the 180 countries in the world. Our votes can make or break international organisations. Yet we seem more helpless than the small number of Jahilliah converts who accepted the Prophet as their leader. Why? Is it because of Allah's will or is it because we have interpreted our religion wrongly, or failed to abide by the correct teachings of our religion, or done the wrong things? }
19 posted on 10/16/2003 11:14:39 AM PDT by APRPEH (tag you're it...)
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To: seamole; Shermy
Thanks for posting his entire speech.

At one level, it is a very level-headed analysis of the problems of Islam. He points out that while in the beginning they were open to other intellectual currents, that they closed themselves off at some point and the world has, intellectually, left them in the dust. They missed, as he says, the industrial revolution. And that they will not be able to reverse the trend by simply continuing to close themselves off, they have to study with a focus on the hard sciences.

He almost seems to be chiding them about their obsession with Israel.

But the whole thing is overlaid with a paranoia that just spins you head around. The whole ummah is held hostage to a few acres on the mediterranean. The whole ummah of over a billion people, which controlls the world's oil supply, is in turn controlled by a few jews. Most of these people don't even know what a jew looks like, they wouldn't know one if they saw one.

I get the impression he is trying to tell his muslim brothers that they have to modernize, and they have to forget about Israel and move on. But he has to couch it in terms that they will accept and understand, and that language is the language of psychosis. Its not often an educated, urbane man is caught speaking so bluntly, exposing what is either his own twisted view of the world, or what is just as bad, the twisted view of his brothers.
20 posted on 10/16/2003 11:26:52 AM PDT by marron
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