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Malaysian Urges Muslims to Unite Vs. Jews (religion of peace alert)
Yahoo! News ^ | October 16, 2003 | ROHAN SULLIVAN

Posted on 10/16/2003 7:49:35 AM PDT by El Conservador

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Speaks for itself...
1 posted on 10/16/2003 7:49:36 AM PDT by El Conservador
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To: El Conservador
Hamid Karzai's comments are unsettling. After everything we have done to free the Afghanis from the tyranny of the Taliban, we put this clown in charge and he seems ready to pick up where the Taliban left off.

This is not good.
2 posted on 10/16/2003 7:55:45 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: DustyMoment
"Final Victory" sound alot like "Final Solution". The only final victory will be when we destroy all these and islam has a reformation. (ever notice how whiney muslims-a billion strong-have an excuse for everything?)
3 posted on 10/16/2003 8:01:12 AM PDT by joltinjoe
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To: DustyMoment
Hamid Karzai's comments are unsettling. After everything we have done to free the Afghanis from the tyranny of the Taliban, we put this clown in charge and he seems ready to pick up where the Taliban left off.

It depends on which part of the speech he was agreeing with. Note, the Malaysian leader also spoke about economics

which also included steps for how Muslim nations can develop economically and socially.

If he's limiting his agreement to the economic policies, I have no problem with it. If he's agreeing with everything else, he's an ingrate.

5 posted on 10/16/2003 8:04:38 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
The Islamics are untrustworthy. Even the Turks betrayed us at a critical moment.
6 posted on 10/16/2003 8:26:31 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Israel!)
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To: zx2dragon; SJackson; yonif; Alouette
ping
7 posted on 10/16/2003 9:05:31 AM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: Yehuda
Islam, except for a Turkish mode will be extinct by the year 2100.
8 posted on 10/16/2003 9:22:33 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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. . . which also included steps for how Muslim nations can develop economically and socially."

An empty phrase to deflect condemnation from the world for its terrorism. After all these centuries of violence, they want to learn how to be social? Not possible. Islam does not allow for equality -- only superiority. You won't teach that old dog new tricks.

10 posted on 10/16/2003 10:03:52 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: El Conservador; aristeides; swarthyguy; Grampa Dave; okie01; pokerbuddy0; seamole; Sabertooth; ...
The prime minister, who has turned his country into the world's 17th-ranked trading nation during his 22 years in power, said Jews "invented socialism, communism, human rights and democracy" to avoid persecution and gain control of the most powerful countries.

The Malaysian minister is off-message for the West. He forgot to exclaim "neo-cons!.

;)

Those jews and their evil human rights and democracy! His ranting does sound like Adolph - Malaysia, I believe, is a democracy. Is he setting up for a change to dictatorship?

11 posted on 10/16/2003 10:21:56 AM PDT by Shermy
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Well, y''know, its that fringe extremist element again.

That vile Arab crap has not only thoroughly infected the Pakistanis but has now reached further east.

Well, as long as America keeps sheltering the Saudis, this ideology wil be spread.
12 posted on 10/16/2003 10:33:53 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: seamole
thanks for the ping. The government of Malaysia is an anti-Semitic, Nazi one.
17 posted on 10/16/2003 11:02:43 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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PUTRAJAYA, Malaysia - Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad on Thursday told a summit of Islamic leaders that "Jews rule the world by proxy" and the world's 1.3 billion Muslims should unite, using nonviolent means for a "final victory."

And they use this power to get Palestinians to kill their citizens. /Duh

18 posted on 10/16/2003 11:08:28 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: seamole
"see the insidious joos control the world. why? why not us?"
from post 13
{24. We are now 1.3 billion strong. We have the biggest oil reserve in the world. We have great wealth. We are not as ignorant as the Jahilliah who embraced Islam. We are familiar with the workings of the world's economy and finances. We control 57 out of the 180 countries in the world. Our votes can make or break international organisations. Yet we seem more helpless than the small number of Jahilliah converts who accepted the Prophet as their leader. Why? Is it because of Allah's will or is it because we have interpreted our religion wrongly, or failed to abide by the correct teachings of our religion, or done the wrong things? }
19 posted on 10/16/2003 11:14:39 AM PDT by APRPEH (tag you're it...)
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To: seamole; Shermy
Thanks for posting his entire speech.

At one level, it is a very level-headed analysis of the problems of Islam. He points out that while in the beginning they were open to other intellectual currents, that they closed themselves off at some point and the world has, intellectually, left them in the dust. They missed, as he says, the industrial revolution. And that they will not be able to reverse the trend by simply continuing to close themselves off, they have to study with a focus on the hard sciences.

He almost seems to be chiding them about their obsession with Israel.

But the whole thing is overlaid with a paranoia that just spins you head around. The whole ummah is held hostage to a few acres on the mediterranean. The whole ummah of over a billion people, which controlls the world's oil supply, is in turn controlled by a few jews. Most of these people don't even know what a jew looks like, they wouldn't know one if they saw one.

I get the impression he is trying to tell his muslim brothers that they have to modernize, and they have to forget about Israel and move on. But he has to couch it in terms that they will accept and understand, and that language is the language of psychosis. Its not often an educated, urbane man is caught speaking so bluntly, exposing what is either his own twisted view of the world, or what is just as bad, the twisted view of his brothers.
20 posted on 10/16/2003 11:26:52 AM PDT by marron
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