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To: sarasota
"You never know how the power of the power of positive thinking will play out. It gathers its own energy. It may not save Terri but perhaps the next victim will be spared."

Okay, for the sake of argument, how much money are you willing to pay towards her hospital bills?

If that question is not to your liking, just who shall be responsible for maintaining her?

Perhaps I am missing something here, and I don't mean to sound cruel and uncaring, but has the rule of law not been followed?

Seems to me we are a nation of laws.

Perhaps not. Perhaps we are a nation who are ruled by feelings.

23 posted on 10/16/2003 8:07:49 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: G.Mason
This is a right to life issue. Are you not on board with this idealogy?
26 posted on 10/16/2003 8:13:20 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: G.Mason
Perhaps I am missing something here, and I don't mean to sound cruel and uncaring, but has the rule of law not been followed? Seems to me we are a nation of laws.

Had you been alive at the time, would you have turned in runaway slaves? Would you have supported the prosecution of Rosa PArks for sitting at the front of the bus?

40 posted on 10/16/2003 8:51:30 AM PDT by jmc813 (Ron Paul for President in '08!)
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To: G.Mason
Okay, for the sake of argument, how much money are you willing to pay towards her hospital bills?

If that question is not to your liking, just who shall be responsible for maintaining her?

Her parents want to take her home and, apparently there are doctors who believe that therapy will help her. The husband has blocked any therapy. He's even blocked antibiotics when she's been ill. This isn't such a "cut and dried" issue at all.

48 posted on 10/16/2003 9:14:42 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("I'm gonna need a hacksaw" - Jack Bauer)
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To: G.Mason
Okay, for the sake of argument, how much money are you willing to pay towards her hospital bills?

If that question is not to your liking, just who shall be responsible for maintaining her?

Terri's parents are willing -actually, begging-- for their daughter to be released into their custody so they could care for her.

They would pay for Terri's care themselves.

Are you aware that there was a multi-million $ settlement for Terri of a malpractice suit? And that that money was supposed to be used for Terri's care and rehabilitation? Schiavo has refused to ever spend dime of it toward her rehabilitation.

Perhaps I am missing something here, and I don't mean to sound cruel and uncaring, but has the rule of law not been followed?

That's debatable. I'm not lawyer, but there appear to be conflicting interpretations of laws regarding withdrawal of food and water from a disabled patient.

Many laws were written before it was considered conceivable that "no articifial intervention" orders could be applied to awake, aware, and merely inconvenient patients.

And sometimes, to quote Dickens, the law's an ass.

70 posted on 10/16/2003 9:43:08 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: G.Mason
When you enter a hospital here in FL you must 'sign' a living will if you do not want life support. I never knew food was life support. If you have seen the videos of Terri, www.terrisfight.org she is not in a coma or brain dead. There was no investigation as the cirumstances which left her in this situation. The money from the lawsuit was to be used for her therapy/rehab in hubby's own words, and it has gone to legal fees......

hearsay has been used, not a living will to have her feeding tube removed....will the FL voters have enough memory to get Greer out of office next year or will they reelect him and send someone else to the same fate?
71 posted on 10/16/2003 9:43:34 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: G.Mason
I've donated to far lesser causes. Think about the people who give it up for animals--domestic and wild.
87 posted on 10/16/2003 9:56:02 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: G.Mason
If that question is not to your liking, just who shall be responsible for maintaining her?

Her parents. They've asked to be allowed to take over custody.

Her husband refuses, because he wants her dead.

89 posted on 10/16/2003 10:00:44 AM PDT by Campion
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To: G.Mason; ClintonBeGone; snopercod; joanie-f; Alamo-Girl; JeanS; RJayneJ; TPartyType; tangofox
The rule of law has not been followed.

A state governor (any state) has the unique executive power to save life and limb, that's why the office is entitled the Executive Branch, instead of the Chief Administrator or General Manager.

The governor is a head of state.

While the federal Constiitution, for example, does proscribe the powers of the Executive Branch, the relationship of power between the branches and between the federal government and the States, and above that, the people, and above that, in God we Trust ... are not proscribed, not enumerated.

The reason for that is, that the people remain the determining factor, not some ego of any official in one or some combination of the branches of government.

The people do not exercise their sovereign powers through votes alone --- though politicians and judges and lawyers wish that and act absolutely so, in otherwords, they act upon inventions of these same politicians and judges and lawyers who are in various degrees lost in extra-Constitutional space.

The people are not that who and which are limited by the fundamental of enumeration.

Yet the Chief Executive of the government, be that federal or state, is authorized to save life and limb; in fact, unlike other governments of the world, in the United States of America, the Chief Executive is somewhat admonished to not sit still and do nothing, unless a greater loss of life and limb may result.

Other than these facts of our democratic-republican form of governance, one reason that I am particular about these points, is because I was an agent for the President of the United States and practiced this business.

Now to be sure, there are judges and lawyers who fancy that "they know the law," but what they know mostly, is their cloistered realms of case point minutiae(sp?). Well, that probably is a good thing, from the standpoint of being good at distinguishing turns in the law.

But in the realm of the balance of power --- which is lost on most judges and lawyers, but not as many politicians --- there are many rules under the rule of law, by which their is authority of the people and of the Chief Executive (state or federal) upon which to act.

We do it all the time, and much of it falls under a catagory of accepting personal responsibility for doing the right thing.

94 posted on 10/16/2003 10:06:33 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: G.Mason
So in essence we should starve to death or murder anyone who you are concerned about there doctor bills?

Maybe if the corrupt system had not dipped and basically stolen the $750 grand that had been in a medical fund and in a trust for her medical rehabilitation, to give to the scum bag attorney in order that he may fight for her execution she would have money to pay for her rehabilitation.

Please go to terrisfight.org and read and look before you make comments without having any knowledge other than that of the regular news outlets.

MCD
95 posted on 10/16/2003 10:09:28 AM PDT by MSCASEY
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To: G.Mason
I don't know if your question re: maintaining Terri was answered, but here is my answer.

Her parents are willing to TAKE HER HOME and care for her. Maintaining a feeding tube is not rocket science. Average people do it every day, and it does not require hospitalization. If they can teach her to eat via spoon, they will.

Currently, her "husband" is letting the state pick up the tab. The parents are willing to take her home.

That's where it stands, O beneficent taxpayer :-)
105 posted on 10/16/2003 10:22:15 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (Caaaarefully poke the toothpick through the plastic...)
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To: G.Mason
Who will support her and pay her bills? Well, as I understand it, there is still money in her name from the malpractice suit or whatever suit it was from which money was obtained. IF her husband hasn't spent all of it, that money could be used to take care of her, as it should be.

As I understand it, one of the prime reasons for her husband wanting Shiavo dead is to get his hands on the remaining money, while there IS some!!!! Think about that one for awhile. The money that has been keeping her alive is money in HER name which dear husband gets right after he kills her off.

And I've always believed that the marks around her neck, and the injuries she sustained were consistent with choking. Afterall, she had told her parents that they were arguing a lot and that she was considering divorce.

Lots more going on here behind the scenes than is being talked about in the media.
107 posted on 10/16/2003 10:26:51 AM PDT by TruthNtegrity (God bless America, God bless President George W. Bush and God bless our Military!)
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To: G.Mason
We are a people ruled by the supreme being, just take a look at our Declaration of Independence. Under the rule of the Almighty, reverence for life is one of the key componenents. In fact, reverence for life is what makes Americans different from almost any other country. Also note that the communist and socialist countries put economics above life. France killed over 15,000 people last summer because their type of government does not hold life sacred.

All the socialists in this country do not want to move to countries that have the type of government they want so badly for us. Why do you suppose they don't? Could it be that they know they will receive compassion here, should they become incapacitated, while in those other countries, fuggedaboutit.
110 posted on 10/16/2003 10:29:05 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: G.Mason
"Perhaps I am missing something here, and I don't mean to sound cruel and uncaring, but has the rule of law not been followed?"

Jesus once healed a crippled man on the Sabbath. The lawyers were furious. They wanted the rule of law, Jesus told them that compassion and mercy have a place too. I believe he also refered to mercy and compassion as the weightier matters. Hummm. You're a couple of thousand years behind the times.

184 posted on 10/16/2003 1:38:19 PM PDT by vigilo
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