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To: carlo3b
I was taught at a very early age to take care of myself. One of the best methods of self defense is to not put yourself in a situation that endangers yourself. Don't hike in the forest alone or at least without letting someone know where you are going. Don't go down dark alleys at night. Don't get drunk and lose control of yourself. And don't be alone with men you don't know and don't know if you can trust.

If you play with matches, who is to blame, the match or the one who lit the match. You can flame me all you want, but it's about time for both men and women to take some responsibility. Rape is horrible. That goes without saying. But the concept that all you have to do is say NO at the last moment and all is well is insane. That's like standing in front of a freight train, whispering "Stop." Just don't stand in front of a freight train.

I have worked in a hotel. It's against all regulations to enter a room where you don't have business, and if you are working in room service, maintenance, housekeeping, or a bellhop, you never close the door of a room while in the room. This is not only to protect the patron and the employee, but to protect against false claims of rape.

Men should treat women as ladies, but women need to behave as ladies.

There is a very heavy price to pay for adultery. Broken families and ruined lived, often leaving a path of destruction. Having intercourse with someone you don't know puts you at risk for diseases, fatal attractions, and claims of rape. It's high risk behavior. Not to mention pregnancy with someone you don't want to spend the rest of your life with.

The rules have behavior have changed and there are too many mixed messages. I don't envy men who have to figure it all out and then end up in the wrong.

40 posted on 10/16/2003 10:42:27 AM PDT by christie (http://www.clintonlegacycookbook.com)
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To: christie
 You can flame me all you want, but it's about time for both men and women to take some responsibility.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY???
GASP!
HOW DARE YOU?


42 posted on 10/16/2003 10:52:34 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: christie
Yup, she asked for it. Went into the room with a man......got what she deserved. How dare she.......and those provocative yellow panties....worse than Monica's thong.
49 posted on 10/16/2003 11:15:59 AM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: christie
But the concept that all you have to do is say NO at the last moment and all is well is insane. That's like standing in front of a freight train, whispering "Stop."

Well said. Or a pedestrian expecting that right-of-way rules will protect him from a truck. It seems, unfortunately, that because a woman has "a right to say no" at any point in a sexual encouter, that some girls believe this will actually ensure their safety. Philosophy is full of rights that can be mighty difficult to enforce.

I take no position on whether this young woman was raped; there's simply too much conflicting "evidence" being offered. However, she's unquestionably an object lesson for other women who'd like to avoid rape. My lecture would start "Don't do a single thing that Miss X did."

51 posted on 10/16/2003 11:21:03 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Where am I? Who are all these kids, and why are they calling me Mom?)
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To: christie
what a great post!
55 posted on 10/16/2003 12:23:40 PM PDT by Queen Jadis
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