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To: Bikers4Bush
Eventually it'll all die down and as long as he doesn't go around yelling "I'm the guy" he'll be allright other than what this will do to him as a person. If he's as big a fan as they've said I doubt he'll ever forgive himself.

He doesn't sound like the kind of guy seeking his 15 minutes, in fact, I would welcome him getting to milk this, I think he deserves it. He deserves not to be blamed for the lost series for starters, but even Hollywood is looking to cash in on him, it would be nice to see him on TV now and again. http://money.cnn.com/2003/10/16/news/companies/movie_fan/

I'm definately frustrated, the Cubs have always been my NL team and I hate the Marlins almost as much as I hate the Yankees and Red Sox. I was looking forward to the Cubs winning it all, breaking the curse and watching those others suffer.

Wow, now that is saying something! Even after losing to the Marlins, I have a hard time hating them like the Yankees/BoSox, except for their total lack of fan support in the lean times. Some of that is understandable given what owner did tearing them apart like he did.

My dislike of the northeast sports fan in general was my motivation in stepping in and trying to stop those that appeared to be negative towards this guy...That is something Boston fans would do. Heck they probably would have killed the guy already. Cubs fans are different, Leon Durham did exactly what Bill Buckner did, but in the deciding game...3 years earlier! Cubs fans still look at the totality of his career and never speak of the error. Sox fans can't shut hating and whining about it, its in their nature to be hateful and complain. Not so with da Cubs, and they've suffered worse and supported less for longer. Cubs fans love the guys wearing the uniform...BoSox fans are just a$$holes. I hope they win the series so they find out they never really had anything "there" other than the curse of the Bambino in the first place.

I've always resented them claiming ownership of "the curse" title, no one ever actually "cursed" them like the Cubs, its something sports writers created. Its subjective and annoying, just like them.

They don't deserve Grady Little, and the Yankees don't deserve Torre, both good guys and managers. Baker is as responsible for overusing the pitchers as any player is for choking, and he's lost in a game 6 meltdown for the 2nd year! Cubs fans aren't talking about firing or killing him. (I think they should at least entertain the idea of CRITICIZING HIM ONCE IN A WHILE because he doesn't comprehend how to judge pitchers, that is clear now)

Truth be told, initially (as in during the game and shortly after) I did think the guy deserved a crack in the jaw for being a bonehead, nothing more and certainly not anything he couldn't shake off after a few minutes. However, knowing what I know about him now I can't help but feel sorry for him.

Truth be told, I did too when it happened. I think everybody reacted to the way Alou reacted. But when I saw the look on his face when he was sitting and everyone else was standing, then the Gonzo error...I thought, dear God, no human being deserves what is about to happen to this guy! Then I found out all the things about him and felt even worse for him. I hope he doesn't kill himself.

I also hope Santo doesn't die in the off season. Good chance of both really.

This is the day after another one of those things we'll be talking about many lazy summers in the future....

1,536 posted on 10/16/2003 3:52:58 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Treason doth never prosper, for if it does, none dare call it treason)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Very true, it'll go down as "The Fan" incident.

1,541 posted on 10/17/2003 5:58:19 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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