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Is Jeb About to Intervene!?!
AP via Miami Herald ^ | Posted on Wed, Oct. 15, 2003 | MITCH STACY

Posted on 10/15/2003 9:59:46 AM PDT by oneday

Posted on Wed, Oct. 15, 2003

Removal of brain-damaged woman's feeding tube to proceed MITCH STACY Associated Press

DOVER, Fla. - Gov. Jeb Bush said Wednesday he has ordered his legal team to try to find a way to intervene in the case of severely disabled woman who is scheduled to have the feeding tube keeping her alive removed.

Bush's comments came after a 20-minute meeting with the family of Terri Schiavo, who faces a 2 p.m. Wednesday deadline in the removal of the tube. Her husband, Michael Schiavo, has been granted permission to remove the tube in a six-year legal battle against her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler.

Bush said his attorneys are looking for legal alternatives to somehow block the removal of the tube, but did not know yet what they might be.

"We are going to seek whatever legal alternatives are available and seek the best minds to find another avenue to submit to the courts to see if there can be a change in this ruling," Bush said at an appearance in Dover dedicating new housing for migrant workers.

"I am not a doctor, I am not a lawyer, But I know that if a person can be able to sustain life without life support, that should be tried," the governor said, adding the "ultimate decision of this is in the courts."

Bob Schindler Jr., Terri Schiavo's brother, said the family was heartened by the governor's last-minute effort. The Schindlers have pleaded with Bush - who in previous legal findings have supported their efforts to obtain therapy for their daughter - to intervene.

"The family has not given up hope on Terri," Bob Schindler Jr. said following the meeting with Bush. "We have spoken to the governor, and he hasn't given up hope either."

Terri Schiavo, 39, is expected to die within two weeks after the tube's removal. She's been in a vegetative state since suffering a heart attack in 1990. Her parents believe she is capable of learning how to eat and drink on her own.

A state appeals court in Lakeland rejected motions by an attorney for the Schindlers and their legal remedies have been exhausted, their lawyer said Tuesday.

Michael Schiavo says he is carrying out his wife's wishes that she not be kept alive artificially. The parents say their daughter has shown signs of trying to communicate and could be rehabilitated.

"In our eyes, it's murder," Bob Schindler said Wednesday on CBS' "Early Show."

George Felos, attorney for Michael Schiavo, said that the Schindlers were "still in denial" over Terri Schiavo's wishes not to be kept alive.

Doctors have testified that the noises and facial expressions Terri Schiavo makes are reflexes and do not indicate that she has enough mental capabilities to communicate with others.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antideath; catholiclist; dontquit; etc; glorytogod; miracle; pray; prolife; riseandwalk; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: sfRummygirl
Thanks ... + Continuing in prayer ...
361 posted on 10/16/2003 12:10:22 AM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: oneday
I have seen them on here, and I hope this is true, just wish it had happened before the surgery.
362 posted on 10/16/2003 12:12:14 AM PDT by ladyinred (Talk about a revolution, look at California!!! We dumped Davis!!!)
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To: sunryse
It's all a politician show. The only reason he may even pay attention to it is if we make a big enough fuss. So make a fuss.
363 posted on 10/16/2003 1:23:01 AM PDT by Concentrate
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To: sanchmo
She responds to her relatives' speech and touch, she follows them around with her eyes, she smiles when her relatives touch her, talk to her, and kiss her (all of this is clearly visible on the videos).

There was no date given for the videos, and the clips seen on the news were obviously edited. S facial expressions are in the same category as twitching and blinking. The video could have been assembled by the parents to support their case. Tests have shown no higher brain function.

364 posted on 10/16/2003 2:36:55 AM PDT by R. Scott
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To: itsahoot
There is more to being alive than simply breathing and having a heart beat.
365 posted on 10/16/2003 2:38:13 AM PDT by R. Scott
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To: lewistopher
...if she did not improve they would take out her feeding tube resulted in this: she sat up in bed and began to attempt to get out of bed, when she couldn't she started to cry.

If this did indeed happen, then she is not in a persistent vegetative state, and the entire issue is moot. The doctors involved are all conspiring to murder a healthy patient?

366 posted on 10/16/2003 2:42:12 AM PDT by R. Scott
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To: R. Scott
Excuse me, not trying to be rude, but have you had a test lately?
367 posted on 10/16/2003 2:44:15 AM PDT by trustandobey
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Have you ever watched the video of Terri?

I have not seen “the” video, I have seen (several times) an edited composite video showing her propped up. One portion that makes me question the video “shows” her blinking in response to questions – the sudden differences in lighting between question and “response” clearly indicate editing.
I see this as a case of a husband who wants his wife to finally be laid to rest while her parents refuse to let her go.

368 posted on 10/16/2003 2:47:23 AM PDT by R. Scott
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To: R. Scott
I see this as a case of a husband who wants his wife to finally be laid to rest while her parents refuse to let her go.

I received similar responses from friends the other day and it made me think about this: If she is in a vegatative state then her life is nothing, useless, irrelevant, valueless...then I though, I just have put a value on this person's life, who am I or any of us to do this on another person's life? At what point do "we" judge a human life as useless so as to stop trying to keep them living and kill them? There is a purpose for why she lives.

When you take God out of it a human life becomes meaningless.

369 posted on 10/16/2003 4:54:40 AM PDT by sirchtruth
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To: R. Scott; lewistopher; itsahoot
The doctors involved are all conspiring to murder a healthy patient?

Euthenise, murder - it's all in the semantics, isn't it?

I guess the doctors and nurses who claimed she is responsive are all conspiring to keep a "dead" (your definition) corpse in suspended animation?

370 posted on 10/16/2003 4:55:35 AM PDT by sanchmo
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To: Theodore R.
I think a federal lawsuit is in order. I found this here
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/14402.html
This what it says
ITLE 42 > CHAPTER 138 > Sec. 14402. Prev | Next
Sec. 14402. - Restriction on use of Federal funds under health care programs
(a) Restriction on Federal funding of health care services

Subject to subsection (b) of this section, no funds appropriated by Congress for the purpose of paying (directly or indirectly) for the provision of health care services may be used -
(1)
to provide any health care item or service furnished for the purpose of causing, or for the purpose of assisting in causing, the death of any individual, such as by assisted suicide, euthanasia, or mercy killing;
(2)
to pay (directly, through payment of Federal financial participation or other matching payment, or otherwise) for such an item or service, including payment of expenses relating to such an item or service; or
(3)
to pay (in whole or in part) for health benefit coverage that includes any coverage of such an item or service or of any expenses relating to such an item or service.
(b) Construction and treatment of certain services

Nothing in subsection (a) of this section, or in any other provision of this chapter (or in any amendment made by this chapter), shall be construed to apply to or to affect any limitation relating to -
(1)
the withholding or withdrawing of medical treatment or medical care;
(2)
the withholding or withdrawing of nutrition or hydration;
(3)
abortion; or
(4)
the use of an item, good, benefit, or service furnished for the purpose of alleviating pain or discomfort, even if such use may increase the risk of death, so long as such item, good, benefit, or service is not also furnished for the purpose of causing, or the purpose of assisting in causing, death, for any reason.

Seems to me since they recieve federal money they can be tried federally for taking out her feeding tube.
371 posted on 10/16/2003 5:09:22 AM PDT by dixiegrrl
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To: oneday
Fasting and praying but becoming disheartened. Did I hear on GMA that Jeb offered the cub fan amnesty?
372 posted on 10/16/2003 5:11:41 AM PDT by trustandobey
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To: trustandobey
Praying this morning for intervention and a miracle.
373 posted on 10/16/2003 5:13:41 AM PDT by pollywog
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To: R. Scott
The doctors involved are all conspiring to murder a healthy patient?

The doctors are following the law, as interpreted by Judge Greer.

374 posted on 10/16/2003 5:17:09 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
The doctors are following the law, as interpreted by Judge Greer.

So if a judge ordered you to kill your innocent loved one, what would you do?

375 posted on 10/16/2003 5:21:13 AM PDT by sirchtruth
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To: sirchtruth
I do not defend the actions of the doctors. At minimum, they should perform acts of civil disobedience, if their conscience calls them to.
376 posted on 10/16/2003 5:25:13 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
I find this case to most difficult for everyone. Except for one aspect.

I think the husband is a complete sphincter!

377 posted on 10/16/2003 5:29:38 AM PDT by sirchtruth
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To: sirchtruth
When you take God out of it a human life becomes meaningless.

Without human medical intervention – the feeding tube - God would allow her to die.
Who is “playing God” – the husband or the parents?

378 posted on 10/16/2003 5:29:54 AM PDT by R. Scott
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To: dixiegrrl
Well, wasn't much of this in the suit from Oct. 10? I forget the details with so much information. The feds won't take the case. They are contented to let the state do the liberal work here, namely "compassionate" killing.
379 posted on 10/16/2003 5:30:50 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: sfRummygirl
republicans

Rummy, you did not capitalize "R"epublicans, and you should. A "Republican" refers to a political party that seeks to gain control of the government through elections. The word "republican" refers to a philosophy of limited government long abandoned by today's "Republican Party."
380 posted on 10/16/2003 5:33:01 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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