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Conventional Wisdom Takes Hit As Latinos Split Calif. Recall Vote
Investor's Business Daily ^ | October 15, 2003 | Sean Higgins

Posted on 10/15/2003 9:11:30 AM PDT by snopercod

Maybe it was the time that Gov. Gray Davis mocked Arnold Schwarzenegger's thick accent that did him in.

A candidate for governor should at least know how to pronounce "California," Davis said on Sept. 6.

To most non-Hispanics, it was a lame joke. To many California Hispanics, it was insulting.

"It showed Davis didn't know what state he was governor of," said Raul Damas, director of Latino Opinions, a research group.

Whatever the reason, Hispanic voters were a key factor in Davis' historic defeat in the Oct. 7 recall election. And they helped turn Republican Schwarzenegger's victory over Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante, a Hispanic Democrat, into a landslide.

That surprised many, since California Hispanics leaned heavily Democratic. Davis got 72% of their vote in 2002.

Latinos Split On Recall

But just 54% voted to keep Davis in office, while 46% voted to oust him, according to an exit poll by Edison Media Research.

California Recall Voting

Vote on replacement ballot All Men Women White Black Hispanic

Schwarzenneger Rep. 46% 49% 43% 52% 17% 31%

Bustamante Dem. 34% 32% 36% 28% 64% 52%

McClintock Rep. 12% 11% 14% 13% 6% 9%

Camejo Green 4% 4% 4% 3% 6% 5%

Huffington Ind. 1% 1% 1% 1% 4% 1%

Other 3% 3% 3% 3% 4% 2%

Black Californians, by contrast, opposed the recall 73%-27%. Non-Hispanic whites favored it 60%-40%.

"The conventional wisdom — that Hispanics vote as an ethnic bloc — turned out not to be true," said Dave Gilliard of Rescue California, a pro-recall group. "They split right down the middle."

In Washington, activists in both parties are pouring over the election results to figure out what happened — and whether it can be repeated in other states.

Overall, Hispanics cast 17% of the votes in the recall and 8% of the anti-Davis vote. Had they all supported Davis, the recall would have failed.

The Hispanic vote was especially surprising given Davis' aggressive efforts to win them over. This included signing a bill letting illegal immigrants get drivers' licenses, something he vetoed twice before.

It failed to excite Hispanics. A Los Angeles Times poll found that only 32% said it made them more likely to vote for Davis. 37% said it made no difference and 27% said it made them less likely to support Davis.

Times op-ed columnist Gregory Rodriguez said, "I'm sure that is not what Davis had expected — alienating large numbers of white, black and Asian voters just to split the Latino vote."

Also surprising was the poor showing of Bustamante. He barely won the Hispanic vote (52%) despite making ethnic pride a major part of his campaign.

Schwarzenegger got 31% of the Hispanic vote and state Sen. Tom McClintock, another Republican, got 9%. Taken together, 40% of California Hispanics voted for the GOP.

Those are big numbers for a party thought to have alienated Hispanics in the 1990s over immigration.

How did it happen? Democrats blame the state's (and nation's) economy, saying Hispanics were as fed up with it as anyone else.

"This was an electorate in a real anti-incumbent mood," said Nelson Reyneri, the Democratic National Committee's director of Hispanic outreach.

Gilliard agrees, but adds that it was Davis' own policies that undid him, like tripling the state car tax.

"That tax hike really hurt people in the middle and lower incomes" including a lot of Hispanics, he said.

Others say that explanation does not go far enough.

"If it was just about Davis, why didn't Bustamante get more of the Hispanic vote?" asked Steve Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies.

The answer has to do with demographics, Camarota says. Almost half of California Hispanics are ineligible to vote, according to CIS' study of census figures.

Hispanic voters are more likely to be native-born, often with deep roots in the state. They're less likely to be swayed by ethnic issues, as the split on driver's licenses showed.

And like other voter groups, Hispanics start leaning Republican as they get wealthier.

"Latinos are not going to automatically vote for a Latino," the DNC's Reyneri said. "They're going to vote on the issues important to them."

Schwarzenegger seemed to understand that. His campaign focused on the state's faltering, overregulated economy.

He did tread carefully on immigration. He opposed a ballot initiative to bar state collection of racial data. He also supported in-state tuition for illegal immigrant students.

But he opposed Davis' driver's license bill. And he had supported a 1994 ballot measure to deny social services to illegal immigrants.

Neither stance doomed him with Hispanics.

Of course, Schwarzenegger may be a unique case. He is an immigrant himself, and his movie star fame gave him a major boost.

"His No. 1 asset was his name I.D.," Damas said.

Still, some see a lesson from the recall.

"The message here is don't pander," Gilliard said. "Treat Hispanics like any other voters."


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: catrans; davis; hispanics; latinos; latinovote; mcclintock; recall; recallanalysis; schwarzanegger
No wonder the press has been so silent on this.

I also not the "Asians" were not singled out. IMO, that's because they have almost completely adopted American culture.

1 posted on 10/15/2003 9:11:30 AM PDT by snopercod
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2 posted on 10/15/2003 9:12:47 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: autoresponder; Cultural Jihad; ladyinred; Carry_Okie; Luis Gonzalez
You were right.
3 posted on 10/15/2003 9:14:00 AM PDT by snopercod (CAUTION: Do not operate heavy equipment while reading this post.)
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To: snopercod
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4 posted on 10/15/2003 9:14:34 AM PDT by snopercod (CAUTION: Do not operate heavy equipment while reading this post.)
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To: snopercod
Interesting. Between them, Arnold and Tom Mc took 23% of the black vote.

Celebrity election fluke or trend???

5 posted on 10/15/2003 9:18:34 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: snopercod
Interesting that McClintock had more votes from women than men.
6 posted on 10/15/2003 9:18:51 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: snopercod
interesting...The Dems were counting on that Bloc vote...

They'll take any block vote...

It's a shame they base their grab for power on people that can be hoodwinked. It's the same thing that Hitler did.

7 posted on 10/15/2003 9:22:24 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: TontoKowalski; L.N. Smithee; Trueblackman
Trend, we hope. Blacks (in general) have been on the RAT plantation for way too long.
8 posted on 10/15/2003 9:28:04 AM PDT by snopercod (CAUTION: Do not operate heavy equipment while reading this post.)
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To: snopercod
Legal hispanics in the U.S. are an interesting group. On one hand, they tend to be among the most conservative voting blocs in the U.S., with strong religious convictions, a belief in gun ownership, tough anti-abortion and anti-gay stances, a strong work ethic, and a belief in the strength of family that seems to be fading in the U.S. today.

On the other hand, they support open borders and want to turn the U.S. into "Mexico del Norte". They believe in unlimited welfare and medical benefits for the poor, want to maintain their "hispanic identity" and spanish language, and most believe strongly in socialistic "share the wealth" schemes.

Hispanics aren't liberal or conservative, Democrat or Republican...they are both, and neither. Unlike other minorities, Hispanics can't be neatly shoehorned into a single political group, and they don't really fit well with any of our existing parties. Personally, I'm pretty convinced that we'll see an ethnically based "Hispanic Party" rise in the west within the next 20-30 years and challenge both the Democrats and Republicans for control of the western states and hispanic dominated neighborhoods and cities across the country.
9 posted on 10/15/2003 9:37:16 AM PDT by Arthalion
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To: Arthalion
Well stated. We can only hope that all Americans come to understand that socialism is not compatible with freedom.
10 posted on 10/15/2003 9:44:45 AM PDT by snopercod (This post contains substantial amounts of non-tobacco ingredients.)
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To: snopercod
...activists in both parties are pouring over the election results...

It doesn't say what they're pouring over the results...molasses? gravy?

11 posted on 10/15/2003 9:53:54 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Arthalion
"They believe in unlimited welfare and medical benefits for the poor..."

Not the conservative ones I know. They're the first one to complain about the "Mexican nationals" and how they take advantage of US taxpayers.
12 posted on 10/15/2003 10:20:02 AM PDT by Sabatier
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To: snopercod
I always have a problem with newspapers who get the basic data wrong. The exit poll data on the various voter breakdowns was fine, execept for the all important catagory "ALL" where they incorrectly used exit poll data instead of actual data for the percentage of ALL voters favoring the listed candidates. Compare to the actual California Secretary of State numbers listed below. You will see that that the use of these exit poll numbers instead of the accurate actual results almost doubled the actual percentage vote of the minor candidates Peter Miguel Camejo and Arianna Huffington, overstated Bustamante's vote percentage by 2.3%, understated McClintock's by 1.4%, and finally understated Governor-elect Schwarzenneger vote total percentage by 2.6%.

California Recall Voting

Vote on replacement ballot All Men Women White Black Hispanic

Schwarzenneger Rep. 46% 49% 43% 52% 17% 31%

Bustamante Dem. 34% 32% 36% 28% 64% 52%

McClintock Rep. 12% 11% 14% 13% 6% 9%

Camejo Green 4% 4% 4% 3% 6% 5%

Huffington Ind. 1% 1% 1% 1% 4% 1%

Other 3% 3% 3% 3% 4% 2%

Actual vote data for ALL California voters:

Replacement candidate for Gray Davis if recalled:

  Arnold Schwarzenegger  Rep   3,898,248   48.6 
  Cruz M. Bustamante     Dem   2,541,568   31.7 
  Tom McClintock         Rep   1,069,980   13.4 
  Peter Miguel Camejo    Grn     222,121    2.8 
  Arianna Huffington     Ind      44,760    0.6 
  Peter V. Ueberroth     Rep      23,375    0.3 
  Larry Flynt            Dem      16,089    0.3 
  Gary Coleman           Ind      13,224    0.2 
  George B. Schwartzman  Ind      11,408    0.2 
  Mary Cook              Ind      10,424    0.2 


Recall of Gray Davis:

  Yes                          4,595,235   55.3 
  No                           3,723,296   44.7    

Source: California Secretary of State

It's not like this article was written on the night of October 7th...


dvwjr

13 posted on 10/15/2003 10:24:45 AM PDT by dvwjr
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Those are big numbers for a party thought to have alienated Hispanics in the 1990s over immigration.

Don't idiot Republicans insult America and Americans of Latino origin by worrying that being too pro-America offends Americans of Latino origin?

"Mexican-Americans" have their hearts in Mexico and their stomachs here. Catering to the crowd that does not want to be Americans is treason IMO. The corrupt government of Mexico makes no secret that it is their policy to force their unwanted citizens out of Mexico and at the same time keep them loyal to Mexico's "nation without borders" a.k.a., the Mexican diaspora. All the while demanding that U.S. taxpayers pay the bills.

Our Republic suffers. Who benefits from this ILLEGAL immigrant form of slavery except for a few businessmen. Stop the BS about produce becoming very expensive and "Who would cut the grass, clean the hotel rooms?"

Almost everyday I drive through the farmland around Sacramento. I see no immigrants. I see machines harvesting the thousands of acres of tomatoes. One machine operator, one truck driver to take the open double trailers of tomatoes to market.

14 posted on 10/15/2003 10:34:45 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: snopercod
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15 posted on 10/15/2003 10:47:32 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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16 posted on 10/15/2003 10:49:32 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: snopercod
"And like other voter groups, Hispanics start leaning Republican as they get wealthier."

An Eternal Verity by itself, but it needs an adjustment.

"And like other voter groups, [fill in the blank] start leaning Republican as they are forced to pay more and more taxes."

17 posted on 10/15/2003 11:18:55 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: dvwjr
Thanks for the true numbers.
18 posted on 10/15/2003 11:36:15 AM PDT by snopercod (This post contains substantial amounts of non-tobacco ingredients.)
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To: John Jorsett; martin_fierro
more confirmation
19 posted on 10/15/2003 11:49:23 AM PDT by snopercod (This post contains substantial amounts of non-tobacco ingredients.)
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